iPhone 4 and OS 4.X Catch All

KillTrash wrote:

Apple again proves that they can design awesome looking devices, with great quality in every component.

Heh, saw this on engadget:

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Elliottx wrote:

Well it looks like the best phone for AT&T with no android phone even coming close(on AT&T).

The big question is whether I can order it online and have it delivered to my house. With the requirement of a micro-sim, I sure hope they allow it but I'm worried I'll have to wade into the hell of an AT&T store.

My worry too, I'm going to call my local store to see if that is an option. It would be so incredibly nice if I can purchase the upgrade online and have it shipped to my house. I have that option right now to upgrade to the 3GS as I'm using the 3G. I hope that the iPhone 4 will show up as an option to upgrade to.

Edit: Here is preorder info from here:

Consumers may preorder iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS 8GB at AT&T retail stores or online at www.att.com/iphone beginning June 15. Business customers can preorder through their AT&T sales representative or by visiting AT&T's Premier site. For greater convenience and faster delivery, preorders can be shipped directly to a customer's home or business for delivery as early as June 24. Customers can also have a preorder shipped to their local AT&T store for pick up on or after Friday, June 25.
AT&T stores will operate on a first-come, first-served basis, and will accommodate as many customers as possible.

Looks interesting. I wonder how much memory each minute of HD video recorded takes up. I was really hoping for a 64gb version.

Very nice; I plan on upgrading

...next year, when my contract is up. Wonder if they'll be willing to grandfather me in on the unlimited data plan?

Nomad wrote:

Looks interesting. I wonder how much memory each minute of HD video recorded takes up. I was really hoping for a 64gb version.

I hadn't even considered that space might be an issue.

I think it's interesting that the two newest "hot" smartphones are running on LCD technology vs whatever iteration of LEDs are currently the best (OLED? AMOLED?) I know that AMOLED screens are plagued with visibility issues outdoors, but I also thought they were vastly superior in terms of power consumption. Weird that Apple and htc have both eschewed them for advanced versions of LCDs for this generation.

I want one

Seth wrote:
Nomad wrote:

Looks interesting. I wonder how much memory each minute of HD video recorded takes up. I was really hoping for a 64gb version.

I hadn't even considered that space might be an issue.

I think it's interesting that the two newest "hot" smartphones are running on LCD technology vs whatever iteration of LEDs are currently the best (OLED? AMOLED?) I know that AMOLED screens are plagued with visibility issues outdoors, but I also thought they were vastly superior in terms of power consumption. Weird that Apple and htc have both eschewed them for advanced versions of LCDs for this generation.

Yup - though it looks like Samsung's upcoming SuperAMOLED phones should be interesting.

I was already happy for the phone, the screen, camera and netflix just hit it out of the park for me. I am still down and a bit worried about the data part though. For screen resolution 320 x 480 with my current G1 vs the 960 × 640 will be a vast improvement to me. I am also looking forward to the 720p video as well as the 5mp zoom camera. The apps are an added bounus. I am conflicted though since I will also be using it as my main mp3 player so would it be better to spend the extra money and get the 32gb model? My coworker says she has the 16 and does just fine but another friend says he has the 32 and has half filled up with music and the other half for apps and has it 3/4 full. What do you all think about the size's?

I think it's interesting that the two newest "hot" smartphones are running on LCD technology vs whatever iteration of LEDs are currently the best (OLED? AMOLED?) I know that AMOLED screens are plagued with visibility issues outdoors, but I also thought they were vastly superior in terms of power consumption. Weird that Apple and htc have both eschewed them for advanced versions of LCDs for this generation.

I was also shocked to see this device not use an OLED screen like the Zune HD uses.. it produces far better blacks than an IPS screen can.. and honestly my Zune HD seems about as visible in bright sunlight as my iPhone does so it can't be an outdoor issue... perhaps battery life? or yeilds? or even just plain old cost.

Matokin wrote:

I was already happy for the phone, the screen, camera and netflix just hit it out of the park for me. I am still down and a bit worried about the data part though. For screen resolution 320 x 480 with my current G1 vs the 960 × 640 will be a vast improvement to me. I am also looking forward to the 720p video as well as the 5mp zoom camera. The apps are an added bounus. I am conflicted though since I will also be using it as my main mp3 player so would it be better to spend the extra money and get the 32gb model? My coworker says she has the 16 and does just fine but another friend says he has the 32 and has half filled up with music and the other half for apps and has it 3/4 full. What do you all think about the size's?

I'd go with the 32GB. My 16GB 3G is always full, and I don't even store video on it. Unless you are going to use a 3rd party application to host your media and access it from your phone...

ymmv, but I've been told by several people (and tend to subscribe to this theory) to always get the higher storage phone. In 2 months you won't remember if you spent 199 or 299, but you'll feel the difference between 16GB and 32GB for the life of your smartphone.

Engadget hands-on comparing the EVO, the 3GS, and the 4.

The difference between the screen on the 3GS and the 4 is incredible.

The EVO is interesting, but I'm more interested in a comparison to one of the AMOLED-screened phones.

EDIT: So Apple is rolling out iAd, their fancy new ad system that's pushing high content fancy ads... just in time for AT&T's bandwidth limits.

General Crespin wrote:

EDIT: So Apple is rolling out iAd, their fancy new ad system that's pushing high content fancy ads... just in time for AT&T's bandwidth limits.

Not to mention Netflix.

MannishBoy wrote:
General Crespin wrote:

EDIT: So Apple is rolling out iAd, their fancy new ad system that's pushing high content fancy ads... just in time for AT&T's bandwidth limits.

Not to mention Netflix.

Netflix is gonna kill me. I'll have to make sure I go into airplane mode anytime video is involved. I would hope ATT would shut off your data service once you reached the cap to keep from getting charged ridiculous amounts, but I'm sure they won't allow for that option.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Matokin wrote:

I was already happy for the phone, the screen, camera and netflix just hit it out of the park for me. I am still down and a bit worried about the data part though. For screen resolution 320 x 480 with my current G1 vs the 960 × 640 will be a vast improvement to me. I am also looking forward to the 720p video as well as the 5mp zoom camera. The apps are an added bounus. I am conflicted though since I will also be using it as my main mp3 player so would it be better to spend the extra money and get the 32gb model? My coworker says she has the 16 and does just fine but another friend says he has the 32 and has half filled up with music and the other half for apps and has it 3/4 full. What do you all think about the size's?

I'd go with the 32GB. My 16GB 3G is always full, and I don't even store video on it. Unless you are going to use a 3rd party application to host your media and access it from your phone...

Same here. I'm constantly cursing myself for not coughing up the extra $100 for the 32 GB model. My 16 GB is constantly full.

I'm really interested in upgrading. May have to buy less beer in the coming weeks to save up.

MannishBoy wrote:
General Crespin wrote:

EDIT: So Apple is rolling out iAd, their fancy new ad system that's pushing high content fancy ads... just in time for AT&T's bandwidth limits.

Not to mention Netflix.

The Netfllix announcement is too random not to be coordinated. i.e. I sincerely believe that Apple and AT&T talked about this. That's why AT&T's announcement preceded WWDC. Punch 'em in the gut with higher price unlimited data then give them good reason to use unlimited data.

DSGamer wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
General Crespin wrote:

EDIT: So Apple is rolling out iAd, their fancy new ad system that's pushing high content fancy ads... just in time for AT&T's bandwidth limits.

Not to mention Netflix.

The Netfllix announcement is too random not to be coordinated. i.e. I sincerely believe that Apple and AT&T talked about this. That's why AT&T's announcement preceded WWDC. Punch 'em in the gut with higher price unlimited data then give them good reason to use unlimited data.

Which is no longer available for purchase.

Okay, then give them good reason to buy data ad-hoc when they have to have Netflix on the go.

Dammit. My Iphone 3G is pretty much dead, just in time for me to buy a shiny new iPhone 4... Can anyone convince me why I would want a Droid or EVO instead? I prefer the Verizon service to AT&T, but so far the iPhone apps, functionality and form factor have kept me on AT&T. I'd really like to be able to Skype video call on my phone though, it's the main way I keep in touch with family. And streaming netflix to my phone would be HUGE for when I travel (Good chance for wifi in hotels at least...)

Jolly Bill wrote:

Dammit. My Iphone 3G is pretty much dead, just in time for me to buy a shiny new iPhone 4... Can anyone convince me why I would want a Droid or EVO instead? I prefer the Verizon service to AT&T, but so far the iPhone apps, functionality and form factor have kept me on AT&T. I'd really like to be able to Skype video call on my phone though, it's the main way I keep in touch with family. And streaming netflix to my phone would be HUGE for when I travel (Good chance for wifi in hotels at least...)

I think you are asking the choir to convince you to go atheist by asking that in this thread.

I'd bet since Netflix has already shown on Windows Mobile 7 that they will be on Android soon, too. It's not like Netflix is very monogamous with it's platforms. They're pretty loose

MannishBoy wrote:
Jolly Bill wrote:

Dammit. My Iphone 3G is pretty much dead, just in time for me to buy a shiny new iPhone 4... Can anyone convince me why I would want a Droid or EVO instead? I prefer the Verizon service to AT&T, but so far the iPhone apps, functionality and form factor have kept me on AT&T. I'd really like to be able to Skype video call on my phone though, it's the main way I keep in touch with family. And streaming netflix to my phone would be HUGE for when I travel (Good chance for wifi in hotels at least...)

I think you are asking the choir to convince you to go atheist by asking that in this thread.

I'd bet since Netflix has already shown on Windows Mobile 7 that they will be on Android soon, too. It's not like Netflix is very monogamous with it's platforms. They're pretty loose :D

I know, but this is a notoriously rational choir

I got the iPhone purely for the form factor, and although the novelty has mostly worn off I have realized that they now have the momentum as far as developers and contracts go. But if I can get Skype and netflix elsewhere and lose little functionality... I'm not tied to AT&T or Apple in any way.

I've got a couple weeks to research and mull it over. Possibly without a phone.

Yeah, it's purely based on what you want out of the product, obviously. I have both phones since I'm developing software for Android and I personally like the iPhone better for polish and for the games. It replaced my DS, PSP, etc. Otherwise, though, I'd prefer to carry around my Nexus One, honestly.

There were some things at WWDC, though, that got me interested in sticking with the platform.

If you're a data intensive user, or ever plan on tethering, I'd go with Sprint and the EVO for their actual unlimited data plan. If you're in an area that's got great Verizon coverage, and not much of anything else, then go with Verizon. If you can stomach AT&T's service, go with the iPhone

Edit: Netflix has hired Android programmers, so it's just a question of when there will be Android service.

I cannot never see myself streaming Netflix over 3G on my phone. Ever.

My iphone 3g contract is up and I'm probably going to get one. I'm just a little concerned that Apple will pull something crazy and offer a 64gb iphone 4 later this year. I can't figure out why they don't have them now. It's not a space issue.

Don't forget Sprint has their 30-day all-money-back guarantee, so you can get an EVO just to try Android out at no risk.

I might wait until the dust settles after the launch, but I'm becoming increasing impressed by this phone. I'm really digging the video you posted Nomad. Since I'm currently eligible for an upgrade I'm even more tempted. I'll probably go for the 16 gb unit though, since money is tight and $100 is still a chunk of change. The 16gb unit just means I'm rotating out songs more frequently, not too big a deal.

General Crespin wrote:

Don't forget Sprint has their 30-day all-money-back guarantee, so you can get an EVO just to try Android out at no risk.

But... but... but... you can't have this?

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It's hard not to be sold after looking at that photo. I'm just being silly, I sort of sold myself over back when the 3G came out which has been a decent phone. Android is better in quite a few ways than the iPhone OS, but it's hard to argue with the look of that hardware.