Walking dead tv show with spoilers. Please mark comic spoilers.

TempestBlayze wrote:

Could we put spoilers in the main subject so we dont have to deal with so many spoilers tags? Im sure most people want to come in here to discuss the latest episode.

Out of courtesy for now:

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I also felt it was completly pointless to saw off his hand other than the flimsy handcuffs but maybe there was a reason. Maybe he got his finger bit by a zombie. Thats sounds kind of obsurd but it's the only thing I can think of.

We also didn't see the top of the bar, only the bottom, so I'm thinking it's misleading. One reason is in the comic, that particular issue is one that is visited upon the protaganist.

TempestBlayze wrote:

Could we put spoilers in the main subject so we dont have to deal with so many spoilers tags? Im sure most people want to come in here to discuss the latest episode.

Out of courtesy for now:

Spoiler:

I also felt it was completly pointless to saw off his hand other than the flimsy handcuffs but maybe there was a reason. Maybe he got his finger bit by a zombie. Thats sounds kind of obsurd but it's the only thing I can think of.

Done.

I like the actor choice they made for Dayrl. It's good to see him getting work.

Up to the last scene I gave the writers a hand, and I know there were trying to show that Merle was delirious but that explanation doesn't hack it for me.

In the credits for the first episode, I saw mention of Skip Schoolnik but I didn't catch whether he was a producer or wirter or whatever his involvement was.

Being an unusual name, I assume that it is the same Skip of Angel fame. I looked him up on IMDB and didn't see any listing of Walking Dead credits. (though I did see he worked on for Sons of Anarchy)

Am I seeing things or did anyone else see him in the credits or know to what capacity he was involved in this show?

"The choke hold is illegal!"

I love those little bits of humor.

Daryl is vying for Glenn as favorite character.
I surprisingly identify with the redneck (Oooooooooklahoma...) and the Asian (Maaaaaaaaaaathematics...).

TempestBlayze wrote:

Out of courtesy for now:

Spoiler:

I also felt it was completly pointless to saw off his hand other than the flimsy handcuffs but maybe there was a reason. Maybe he got his finger bit by a zombie. Thats sounds kind of obsurd but it's the only thing I can think of.

I doubt the writers intentionally did this, but I viewed it as an homage to the end of Road Warrior... where the bandit is handcuffed to a car in imminent danger of exploding, and Mel Gibson hands him a hacksaw and tells him that if he's lucky he might be able to cut through the cuffs before the explosion, whereas if he chooses "option B" he'll be able to get free and clear of the blast with time to spare.

Merle was faced with zombies banging on a door he probably didn't know was secured with chains... he didn't know how much time he had left, so he panicked and picked "option B."

Tach wrote:

And this episode was kind of a relief. The first episode was epic, and the second was a profound let-down. I'm hoping the first and third are more the tone of the series. And seriously, only 6 episodes in the season? I know it's been renewed for another season, but it will almost certainly be a year before season 2...

I really think that episode 2 will fit in better once the entire season is out and you can watch the show in "long form." In the context of ratings and keeping people excited, yeah it was a drop off from the first episode. But I think in the context of telling a good story, it was needed to introduce characters and set up the where's and how's and such.

Said before after 2 episodes, but now 3 episodes, and still no deaths. Somehow the tension hasn't faded yet though. I feel like the scare is always coming, but then it never does. I'm glad they gave Norman Reedus the part of Daryl, I always liked him in Boondock Saints.

They kinda lost me at the end of 3... was watching it on demand and once I realized there was only about 5 minutes left I really felt like not much had really happened at all. Really hated the way they closed it out. The second they started going up the stairs and there were no zombies or corpses I knew we were in for a twist and it was one that didn't even make much sense to me.

So he cut off his own hand when he didn't need to because hes apparently hysterical? he then what... jumped off the building? Killed the zombies and escaped but left the door locked and no corpses? another escape route? Even so would the zombies leave then? bleh.

I think they would of been better off just showing us what happened as the 'OMG hes not there' twist fell flat on its face for me and for other people it seems.

He's clearly of Prussian stock, and has a saw. He ubersawed his way out.

I really thought there was a bit in Episode 2 where Merle asked for the hacksaw and they replied "you'd never get through the cuffs with that rusty thing". So basically, it was a sh*tty hacksaw and he could only get through his hand, which is far, far softer than handcuffs. Handcuffs are made so that you can't cut through them without serious equipment, arms aren't.

PyromanFO wrote:

I really thought there was a bit in Episode 2 where Merle asked for the hacksaw and they replied "you'd never get through the cuffs with that rusty thing". So basically, it was a sh*tty hacksaw and he could only get through his hand, which is far, far softer than handcuffs. Handcuffs are made so that you can't cut through them without serious equipment, arms aren't.

how about pieces of metal that look no thicker then a thumb? Honestly he looked like he was cuffed to something he could of slowly snapped with the weight of his own body over time.

jowner wrote:
PyromanFO wrote:

I really thought there was a bit in Episode 2 where Merle asked for the hacksaw and they replied "you'd never get through the cuffs with that rusty thing". So basically, it was a sh*tty hacksaw and he could only get through his hand, which is far, far softer than handcuffs. Handcuffs are made so that you can't cut through them without serious equipment, arms aren't.

how about pieces of metal that look no thicker then a thumb? Honestly he looked like he was cuffed to something he could of slowly snapped with the weight of his own body over time.

Yeah the pipe I can buy, it looked rusty and that bolt probably could've been cut through. But again he was in a hurry, and kind of an idiot. You're not going to see people in The Walking Dead at their best.

The only problem with this series is that 1 hour episodes are not long enough to contain all the awesome.

Gaald wrote:

The only problem with this series is that 1 hour episodes are not long enough to contain all the awesome.

Speaking of awesome STARGATE TONIGHT!

I guess I buy your explanation Pyro. I just dont know what to think about it that so I will take any silly explanation.

PyromanFO wrote:

I really thought there was a bit in Episode 2 where Merle asked for the hacksaw and they replied "you'd never get through the cuffs with that rusty thing". So basically, it was a sh*tty hacksaw and he could only get through his hand, which is far, far softer than handcuffs. Handcuffs are made so that you can't cut through them without serious equipment, arms aren't.

He also probably ripped the flesh up really badly when the zombies were pounding at the door. Even when he was just sitting there talking to his past, we saw that the skin was raw and painful-looking. When full-fledged terror sets in, I can see him breaking the skin, and some of the bones trying to get the extra few inches to get to the hacksaw - at that point, it probably didn't add that much pain to be freed.

Ep 3 was great. Probably my favorite so far, as they finally got into the camp dynamics which were sorta railroaded by the Merle department store stuff in Ep 2. Basically it seems like they've taken the original direction of the books and bolstered up the story by inserting the Merle thing, dragging the main storyline out a bit. Which is okay because I figure they want to give some of the core characters a lil more screen time before they get chomped.

I was thinking of a scene in Madmax when he was trying to get the hacksaw.

On the Merle issue at the end of Episode 3:

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My guess is gangrene. If he is severely dehydrated and desperate, the wound from the handcuff could have affected the blood flow to his hand and it might be dead. The thing is, for it to be effective, you have to cut above the dead part of your hand. So, maybe he just cut off his hand in a dead section. It would have been painless in that case. He may be walking around with a severe infection and a rotting limb. Would be a pretty cool riff on the "walking dead," which I am starting to think refers to the survivors and not the zombies. They might be playing with that theme. We'll see. Hell, we may even see him walking among the dead in safety, because he smells dead from the rot in his body. That would certainly be the horror movie way to go. Guys like him always seem to transform into monsters at some point. Maybe it is just residual memories from Slither.

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As for the episode as a whole, I loved it. They writing was phenomenal and the character conflicts are compounding. Maybe it has to do with the short season, but whatever the reason is, the show keeps moving at a wonderful pace. I am never bored when watching it. The only disappointment was the cliff hanger ending. I want more! Not since Season 1 of Lost have I been so drawn into a show. Great stuff.

This show is awesome and I want to subscribe to this thread. That is all.

PS. Watch Terriers too.

magnus wrote:

This show is awesome and I want to subscribe to this thread. That is all.

PS. Watch Terriers too.

Damn skippy. Walking Dead is cruising without a problem. Both the ratings and the reviews are excellent. Terriers is thrashing about like a beached fish ratings-wise, but it's a great show.

I'm loving Walking Dead. The plot is a bit slow sometimes, but that's kind of a hallmark of a lot of AMC's shows. Mad Men and Breaking Bad have some episodes where not a damn thing happens, but the overall arc of the season is completely worthwhile.

Tach wrote:

We also didn't see the top of the bar, only the bottom, so I'm thinking it's misleading. One reason is in the comic, that particular issue is one that is visited upon the protaganist.

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But they showed the intact cuffs.

Sorry, was out of the thread until I caught up on the show:

heavyfeul wrote:

I never noticed the issue you guys bring up. It makes sense, but Atlanta was hailed as safe haven (CDC), so it drew people there for protection and possibly a cure. Also, once the society started to collapse, smaller towns probably got looted out quickly (less stuff) and traveling seems sketchy with zombies everywhere. Why traverse hundreds of square miles in hostile unprotected country where resources are sparsely distributed, when you can get all you need with one trip to a few square blocks in Atlanta, where alternate routes (sewers, water mains, etc. are available.

It seems to me until the zombie apocalypse actually happens, these are all untestable hypotheses.

How do you know it is less safe to make a short but dangerous trek to Atlanta, then to spend days searching for necessities in the suburbs?

Because I know Atlanta pretty well? From the quarry view of the skyline, they're pretty far out. And they would have to pass by a lot of residential, retail, and commercial stuff before getting even close to downtown, which wouldn't be nearly as full of supplies.

I can't figure out what building they are filming on the roof of, but it's adjacent to a couple of my company's towers. Next time I'm down, I'm going to have to look around and figure it out.

If he would have sawed off the cuff he might of broke the blade. Since the cuffs are made of hardened steel, that flimsy blade would have lost all teeth and then he would have died anyways. I don't know how much sawing you guys do but you can dull a blade sawing through a couple pieces of wood.

I think the copter picked him up and whoever was on the copter cut his hand off because they couldn't get through the cuffs.

Looked like a pretty clean cut too!

Well, having read the comics all the way up to date, I must say I like the show... mostly. The whole thing with Glenn and the car didn't seem right to me though. Even without taking the comics into consideration, Glenn said that he was always making the city runs alone and that he clearly knows that sounds are bad. So the whole car thing was a bit of a stretch to me. Otherwise, I'm fine with the changes they made. I understand why they'd want to introduce characters earlier than in the books, as well as having a more diverse cast earlier on. I just hope that they don't get too attached to the characters, and will do what needs to be done down the line (anyone who's gone through the books know exactly what I'm talking about).

Irongut wrote:
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those four rounds he gave Rick for his gun aren't blanks. Only next week will tell.

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No, they obviously weren't. You could see the lead bullet on the cartridge. Blanks just have a crimped brass tip.

I don't know how anyone could give Shane accolades for being a better father than Rick.

I haven't read the books, but as for the first three tv episodes,

He:

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is clearly using the son to solidify his position in the mothers arms

Let alone the fact that he:

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told the mother that Rick had died at the hospital in the first place.

Besides, Rick:

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was only reunited for what, one day, maybe, with his family before heading back. Doesnt give him much of a chance to go froggin.

I just hope

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those four rounds he gave Rick for his gun aren't blanks. Only next week will tell.

Hey, do I win for most annoying use of spoilers?