It's really a weight off his shoulders.
I may have just missed it, but was there ever an answer as to who put the rats in the fence? Was it the Governor?
I may have just missed it, but was there ever an answer as to who put the rats in the fence? Was it the Governor?
Nope. That is still a mystery as far as I know.
I may have just missed it, but was there ever an answer as to who put the rats in the fence? Was it the Governor?
I don't think they actually revealed it yet but my money is on psychogirl.
If psychogirl is the little girl who was naming the zombies, then I agree, I think it was psychogirl. I also think that Carol is covering up for psychogirl by confessing to killing those two people that were sick, and that psychogirl had something to do with those two murders. I also bet psychogirl dissected that rat that Tyreese found in the last episode.
I'm way behind and I haven't read through the thread due to spoilers (even though I've read the comic, the TV show goes pretty fall afield). One question - why do I keep watching?
I just finished the episode where Dale stands up for humanity and then gets unceremoniously killed by the zombie Carl antagonized. I get the symbolism - humanity and civilization have no place in this new world but man, is that a downer.
Given the pessimism of this show, why keep watching? I mean, I'm going to but I can't answer that question.
Did they ever explain why people turn when bitten, but it shouldn't matter since they are infected anyway?
Did they ever explain why people turn when bitten, but it shouldn't matter since they are infected anyway?
General infection or trauma. Just imagine the decay and nasty things that would grow on walking corpse. Then introduce that into an open trauma caused by said corpse. Sickness and death would ensue quickly.
Right, it's not that they turn when bitten it's that it's an immediate death sentence, short of hatchet triage anyway.
Did they ever explain why people turn when bitten, but it shouldn't matter since they are infected anyway?
Because zombie medicine science!
Um... What Blondish and Mantis said. I was under the impression that a bite gave such a huge dose of zombie pathogen that there was nothing you could do (short of immediate amputation). Whereas people are currently infected with a dormant version of the pathogen which activates upon the death of the carrier.
I'm way behind and I haven't read through the thread due to spoilers (even though I've read the comic, the TV show goes pretty fall afield). One question - why do I keep watching?
Spoiler:I just finished the episode where Dale stands up for humanity and then gets unceremoniously killed by the zombie Carl antagonized. I get the symbolism - humanity and civilization have no place in this new world but man, is that a downer.
Given the pessimism of this show, why keep watching? I mean, I'm going to but I can't answer that question.
I'll be honest I went through the graphic novels in a fairly short time and while I found it fascinating, I eventually stopped. There was one issue when something horrendous didn't end up being so horrendous and I decided it would be my happy ending to the story.
At this point I still watch the show because it is generally well made and because I'm interested in the rare opportunity to see a story told twice with some parallels and some divergence. That's so far enough of a unique experience to get me back.
PRG013 wrote:Did they ever explain why people turn when bitten, but it shouldn't matter since they are infected anyway?
General infection or trauma. Just imagine the decay and nasty things that would grow on walking corpse. Then introduce that into an open trauma caused by said corpse. Sickness and death would ensue quickly.
That's kind of what I thought -- they die from the infection or blood loss and reanimate because of the virus.
Well, yes and no. Some wounds are small enough tht you'd expect blood loss to be minimal and infection to take days at the very least.
Of course, why I am arguing, this is zombie medicine!
Well, yes and no. Some wounds are small enough tht you'd expect blood loss to be minimal and infection to take days at the very least.
Of course, why I am arguing, this is zombie medicine! :D
I agree with Eleima. I thought there were times when people had bite marks (not gaping wounds) and they would die.
They've never examined or explained it, as they're usually too busy trying to survive.
I think there's a difference between the passive version of the virus everyone has and the active version that zombies infect people with via bites/blood. The passive version reanimates the host and starts producing the active version, and the active version simply kills whatever it infects, allowing the passive version to "activate."
They've never examined or explained it, as they're usually too busy trying to survive.
I think there's a difference between the passive version of the virus everyone has and the active version that zombies infect people with via bites/blood. The passive version reanimates the host and starts producing the active version, and the active version simply kills whatever it infects, allowing the passive version to "activate."
This is a theory that the virus can create a more aggressive strain that kills once it goes active into reanimation. However, the prevailing theory is that diseases that live in the human mouth would be lethal since it is a naturally dirty place (hence why then treat your hand for infection if you punch someone in the mouth). The zombie mouth would become septic and therefore carry aggressive strains of E.Coli, Staphylococcus, and the most prevalent microbe responsible for human decomposition Proteus morgani.
My friend is a mortician and we have long discussions while playing Cards Against Humanity on these topics. While he is fascinated by the concept of a zombie; he is probably the best person to talk down a lot of the more fantastic mechanics of the universe including the animated severed head theory. Since the nerve endings controlling facial muscles actually attach to the spinal cord he feels that a severed head would be as effective as a blow to the head. Sorry Governor, they may still have an active brain but wouldn't be able to move.
My friend is a mortician and we have long discussions while playing Cards Against Humanity on these topics. While he is fascinated by the concept of a zombie; he is probably the best person to talk down a lot of the more fantastic mechanics of the universe including the animated severed head theory. Since the nerve endings controlling facial muscles actually attach to the spinal cord he feels that a severed head would be as effective as a blow to the head. Sorry Governor, they may still have an active brain but wouldn't be able to move.
Next time you see your friend, tell him to tie together the shoelaces of all the bodies he prepares. Because if there was a real zombie apocalypse that would be hilarious.
Blondish83 wrote:My friend is a mortician and we have long discussions while playing Cards Against Humanity on these topics. While he is fascinated by the concept of a zombie; he is probably the best person to talk down a lot of the more fantastic mechanics of the universe including the animated severed head theory. Since the nerve endings controlling facial muscles actually attach to the spinal cord he feels that a severed head would be as effective as a blow to the head. Sorry Governor, they may still have an active brain but wouldn't be able to move.
Next time you see your friend, tell him to tie together the shoelaces of all the bodies he prepares. Because if there was a real zombie apocalypse that would be hilarious.
They don't bury them with shoes... unless there is a specific reason to do so. In most cases the body's swelling prevents the shoes they own from fitting. This is also why the suits or clothes people are buried in have the back cut out.
Tweeted by Prederick tonight:
If you liked it then you should've put a chain on it.
Hahaha, that gave me a good chuckle.
Hershel's Head!
I really liked this episode. Much more backstory on Michonne than is in the comic. I hope this bodes well for this half season.
I really liked this episode. Much more backstory on Michonne than is in the comic. I hope this bodes well for this half season.
My wife thinks that walkers killed her boyfriend, their son, and her boyfriend's friend, but from what she said in the BBQ joint, I think the truth is darker than that. I think the boyfriend lost all hope and tried to kill them all, and Michonne was only able to save herself.
concentric wrote:I really liked this episode. Much more backstory on Michonne than is in the comic. I hope this bodes well for this half season.
My wife thinks that walkers killed her boyfriend, their son, and her boyfriend's friend, but from what she said in the BBQ joint, I think the truth is darker than that. I think the boyfriend lost all hope and tried to kill them all, and Michonne was only able to save herself.
Yeah. In the discussion the three of them were having in the dream sequence, he seemed like he lost all hope. "What kind of life would this be?" And when she said out loud, "You were wrong because I'm still here." I think that sealed it. She wanted to live, he wanted to die, and when he couldn't change Michonne's mind he probably killed himself and their son.
Great episode and I'm really glad they developed Michonne. Part of the reason my wife tuned out is because she was pissed that, for a while there, it seemed like they were portraying her as just an angry black woman.
She's a great actress and...damn, she's beautiful.
Much more backstory on Michonne than is in the comic.
I've been finishing a season then reading the comic up to the point where they left off in the season. So in the comic, I've read up to the point where they lose the prison. And so far, I'm really impressed with the television series. It's an unusual thing for the adaption to be better than the source material. And, in my humble opinion, the television series is one of those unusual cases. Granted, I suppose the comic has the disadvantage of being a comic book.
And I was worried Rick was going to die in that episode. I didn't think he was dead at the point they tried to make us believe he turned. But I thought it might still happen by the end of the episode.
concentric wrote:Much more backstory on Michonne than is in the comic.
I've been finishing a season then reading the comic up to the point where they left off in the season. So in the comic, I've read up to the point where they lose the prison. And so far, I'm really impressed with the television series. It's an unusual thing for the adaption to be better than the source material. And, in my humble opinion, the television series is one of those unusual cases. Granted, I suppose the comic has the disadvantage of being a comic book.
Aww, see I've just finished reading up until the same point and have said (maybe I'll stick to it and maybe not) that I'm quitting the show and just reading from now on! I think a lot of it is the pacing for me. I tend to think the show stretches the story out way too much and not enough happens in each episode, so I love that I can burn through the books quickly.
I think Hershel's head is still a more likeable character than Carl.
I think Hershel's head is still a more likeable character than Carl.
And seems to be a better actor too.
I think a lot of it is the pacing for me. I tend to think the show stretches the story out way too much and not enough happens in each episode, so I love that I can burn through the books quickly.
Yeah, we seem to be polar opposites when it comes to our differing opinions on which is better. Because I agree, that yes, the show can stretch some things out, but the comic burns through stuff way too fast for me. I have no attachment to any of the characters in the comics. And I have little sense on what kind of persons they are. What's more, I have no idea how many of the individuals arrive to the decision to act upon many of the things they do. Shane was handled so much better in the series than the comic that it is hardly worth comparing the two to me.
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