Haha! I can see it, except how that hug he got from Violet after telling her Zack died was about the most awkward thing I've ever seen. I'm trying to think of illegal versions of jobs that would be on Dirty Jobs.
Talk about awkward! He hugged Violet the pig?
Hershel's daughters are Maggie and Beth.
Hey man, that pig was a food source! It was really important to him
DiscoDriveby wrote:Haha! I can see it, except how that hug he got from Violet after telling her Zack died was about the most awkward thing I've ever seen. I'm trying to think of illegal versions of jobs that would be on Dirty Jobs.
Talk about awkward! He hugged Violet the pig?
Hershel's daughters are Maggie and Beth.
HAHA! My mistake. That would certainly be a VERY different spin-off...
Trophy Husband wrote:Eleima wrote:About the kid getting sick... That's gotta be some supermutated bug because you don't typically get a fever and then keel over and die within 12 hours like that, not when you're young with no other health issues. I thought that was weird, but... Wait and see I guess.
I assumed he just passed out, but died from the blow to the head. There seemed to be a lot of blood. Definitely sustained some sort of head wound.
Same here. It looked like the fever just made him pass out, but hitting his head when he fell was what killed him (unless both his and Violet the pig's illnesses were connected, and they are introducing some new and deadly disease).
My money is on that.
Hobbes2099 wrote:DiscoDriveby wrote:I was trying to figure out if they ever did say what Daryl did before the z apocalypse. I'm assuming the undercover cop guess was wrong. If they haven't said it yet, what would your guess be?
Chip & Dale dancer.
I love how random my brain gets after midnight.
And his stage name would have to be something like Hunter.
My guess would be that he may have had some sort of blue collar job, but like Stengah says, I feel like that'd be too legal for him. I could have swore that they mentioned that he was into some bad stuff before the apocalypse, or maybe that was just Merle.
Merle was the one that was frequently in juvenile detention, which left Daryl to fend for himself a lot as their dad tended to ignore them when he wasn't abusing them. I'm thinking that Daryl was no stranger to criminal activity, but it wasn't violent crime like what Merle was into.
So h1n1, swine flu. Ok I can live with that. I hope they keep it as a real word sickness and don't make it into some super zombie bug.
Swine flu?
Why do I hate that idea, if that's where they're going...
Swine flu?
Why do I hate that idea, if that's where they're going...
Why do you hate it? I'd rather they have to deal with a real world issue instead of creating some sort of fictional virus.
Maybe it will be the same virus that wiped out all of the dogs and cats in The Planet of the Apes.
See I actually like the "virus" idea. This might not be some fictional disease it could be a real one that is currently in the world. It is just different when they have no way to diagnose it and the way they live very hard not to spread it. Even if the virus is "fictional" it's a real issue that could come up with current diseases. So in my mind it's a realistic situation (granted the entire world is semi unrealistic zombie apocalypse). Shows lack in their internal security. In my opinion they should be having people on guard duty even at night walking around the places. Also no reason to not lock your cell every night.
My question is the fact that someone is feeding the walkers. Is it the Governor or is it someone new?
My question is the fact that someone is feeding the walkers. Is it the Governor or is it someone new?
I'm thinking it's that weird girl who thinks the walkers are still people.
escher77 wrote:My question is the fact that someone is feeding the walkers. Is it the Governor or is it someone new?
I'm thinking it's that weird girl who thinks the walkers are still people.
Hmm I do not think so for two reasons. 1. How is she trapping getting all the rats 2. Looked like they were setup to cluster the walkers and get them to push down the fence. To me seemed malicious.
T-Prime wrote:Swine flu?
Why do I hate that idea, if that's where they're going...
Why do you hate it? I'd rather they have to deal with a real world issue instead of creating some sort of fictional virus.
Yeah, I changed my opinion when I thought "the survivors would never be able to identify it as 'swine flu', it could just be the common cold". I think I didn't like it initially because, kind of like Hyundai's involvement, sometimes having real-life things in a TV show like that takes you out of the experience. But a deadly common cold is more than plausible to me; as a dumb modern male, I didn't even think about Lori potentially dying from giving birth without modern medicine until after it happened.
Story time:
So my fiancee loves pigs. We get to the part where Rick is in the back of a trailer with a big wooden box, and after the opening where Rick is pulling worms out of a box, she says to me, "Why is he going to try and feed worms to the walkers?" However, I knew that they were going to be the pigs, so I sat with anticipation for the look on her face when they revealed the box was filled with pigs. She was not happy. I was left wanting ribs.
JC wrote:T-Prime wrote:Swine flu?
Why do I hate that idea, if that's where they're going...
Why do you hate it? I'd rather they have to deal with a real world issue instead of creating some sort of fictional virus.
Yeah, I changed my opinion when I thought "the survivors would never be able to identify it as 'swine flu', it could just be the common cold". I think I didn't like it initially because, kind of like Hyundai's involvement, sometimes having real-life things in a TV show like that takes you out of the experience. But a deadly common cold is more than plausible to me; as a dumb modern male, I didn't even think about Lori potentially dying from giving birth without modern medicine until after it happened.
Story time:
Spoiler:So my fiancee loves pigs. We get to the part where Rick is in the back of a trailer with a big wooden box, and after the opening where Rick is pulling worms out of a box, she says to me, "Why is he going to try and feed worms to the walkers?" However, I knew that they were going to be the pigs, so I sat with anticipation for the look on her face when they revealed the box was filled with pigs. She was not happy. I was left wanting ribs.
My wife made me mute that part and she looked away.
My wife made me mute that part and she looked away.
My wife didn't care. I sat there saying, "Poor piggies!"
I like where this is headed, but skeptical about the execution.
Common day benefits have elevated to highest of luxuries, while common day problems remain and some will become life and death complications.
The benefits of modern medicine have been sliced vertically; the knowledge might still be there (military doctor with alcoholism, books are probably still around in colleges and universities), but the actual medicine and modern utensils are, for all practical matters, gone from this earth. The total tally of professionals capable of building, repairing or using such devices will only dwindle down.
Anything beyond a common cold can (and probably will) spiral out of control quickly.
They now live in a world where keeping a fence upright is a mater of life and death. I don't see survivors creating a group of medicine practitioners, even though it's just as important.
I'm a bit worried about execution. I guess show runners will always seek the most dramatic story telling vehicles. People simply dying because medical progress has been lost is one way to deal with it.
Having someone mysteriously burning people alive to stop the (potential) plague seems a bit over the top.
Let's see where the writers decide to go with this.
I don't think the burned bodies is supposed to be mysterious. I think they are the bodies of people who turned and carried disease. Someone may have been acting on their own, but it's a reasonable course of action. The drama will center around Tyreese not being given a heads up.
I go back on forth on the rats. My initial assumption is that the governor is purposely luring walkers to the prison. But one of the kids "feeding" zombies may actually be a good example of Occam's razor. They are clumped because the kid didn't think through their actions. The rats were on the inside, so for the Governor to be feeding them, he, or his people, would have to be inside.
Of course, he may have people inside working for him, but that seems unnecessarily suicidal.
I don't think the burned bodies is supposed to be mysterious. I think they are the bodies of people who turned and carried disease. Someone may have been acting on their own, but it's a reasonable course of action. The drama will center around Tyreese not being given a heads up..
I vote medic on burning the bodies...
Of course, he may have people inside working for him, but that seems unnecessarily suicidal.
If they were on the inside, they could just open the gate.
Anyhow, Maggie and Glenn are doing a crappy job in the guard tower (too much boinking), not seeing a person with a flashlight sticking rats in the fence.
I don't think the burned bodies is supposed to be mysterious. I think they are the bodies of people who turned and carried disease. Someone may have been acting on their own, but it's a reasonable course of action. The drama will center around Tyreese not being given a heads up.
I go back on forth on the rats. My initial assumption is that the governor is purposely luring walkers to the prison. But one of the kids "feeding" zombies may actually be a good example of Occam's razor. They are clumped because the kid didn't think through their actions. The rats were on the inside, so for the Governor to be feeding them, he, or his people, would have to be inside.
Of course, he may have people inside working for him, but that seems unnecessarily suicidal.
I think everything is supposed to make the viewer think, "The Governor is doing it". I like the theory of the girls feeding the walkers rats that they find and catch in the cell blocks, makes sense considering how last week they were naming the walkers. Remember that even Herschel was catching and keeping walkers thinking they could be cured.
One thing that kept bothering me in the episode was how they were killing the walkers on the fence... where'd the bodies go? Wouldn't they start to form a barrier that would keep other walkers from pushing up too far? It reminds me of a stupid joke my friend in high school would make; if everyone in the world were to jump off a bridge, he'd be the last one to do it, since there would be a relatively soft spot of bodies to land on.
The kids aren't tall enough to feed the zombies unless they brought ladders. Whoever was doing it was tall enough to hold the rats at face level.
I really don't think we saw enough to evaluate how tall the feeder is.
The girlfriend of the black guy wasn't dead yet, right? My bet is on Carol killing people and burning the bodies. She's already teaching kids how to survive at story time and she was asked to protect the sisters as if they were her own. She's going to do it no matter what it takes.
Don't sneeze around her. It'll end badly.
She wasn't dead when she went in the cell. But it's not like this virus is taking its sweet time. There was a trail of blood from the cell to the burn spot, so I assumed someone dragged her body. I'm sure Tyreese is going to assume someone offed her before she turned, but I don't think that is a fair assumption.
I don't think the burned bodies is supposed to be mysterious. I think they are the bodies of people who turned and carried disease.
I don't mean the bodies where a mystery. I mean the person behind the purge is a mystery.
Someone may have been acting on their own, but it's a reasonable course of action. The drama will center around Tyreese not being given a heads up. The drama will center around Tyreese not being given a heads up.
If they were already dead, or turned,then yes; burn away. I'm going to assume that the sick population is getting clobbered to death and then burned for the sake of drama, giving Tyreese a "good enough" reason to go postal on whoever he suspects is behind the purge.
Again, I'm skeptical about the execution of this plot; my money is on lazy writing and Tyreese will kill whoever he suspects before he has a) legitimate proof, or b) takes 3 minutes to actually talk to anyone about it.
I know how it sounds like I hate this show, when I actually enjoy it quite a bit. But rushed, poor decisions seem to be the MO for everyone.
The first step may be waiting for the lazy writing before complaining about it.
Watched the episode last night and I thought it was pretty good. I even liked their use of the "lawman puts his gun aside for farming but has to take it up again" trope. I saw it coming but still enjoyed it.
I like their new "less talking" writing style in S4 so far. It's nice to see things just happening without hearing the characters talk and talk about it.
So why don't they bring more vehicles back when they go out? Instead of using logs they could park a car or truck against the fence to help reinforce it. Helps with security and also good by having them around for spare parts.
Loving this season so far, very brutal.
Yeah, I changed my opinion when I thought "the survivors would never be able to identify it as 'swine flu', it could just be the common cold". I think I didn't like it initially because, kind of like Hyundai's involvement, sometimes having real-life things in a TV show like that takes you out of the experience. But a deadly common cold is more than plausible to me; as a dumb modern male, I didn't even think about Lori potentially dying from giving birth without modern medicine until after it happened.
There's a huge difference between Lori dying in childbirth and this swine/avian mutated flu. I might be venturing in a bit of P&C territory here, but it's definitely warranted and relevant here (and I'll amend my post if it really bugs anyone). The mutated flu is a very, very likely possibility (well, discounting the whole reanimated flesh thing). One needs only look at bugs like the Marburg virus to know that the potential for deadly pathogens is very real.
Lori's death in childbirth, while not wholly unlikely (who knows what the story behind that is, there are few possible explanations), really bothered me both as a public health resident and as a woman and mother. For the past century, women have been told that they can't give birth alone and they've been shepherded into hospitals, strapped to beds and injected with various hormones to speed up the process in order to accommodate the doctor's schedule. And Lori's death comforted the whole "oh yeah, I would've totally died if I hadn't been in a hospital" sentiment that is widespread and not always justified (C-sections are becoming more and more frequent because of epidural analgesia and induction, according to some studies). Lori's death compounds those views and that really, really bugs me. Especially because (comic spoilers below):
Lori gives birth to a healthy baby girl in the comic with a successful VBAC (vaginal birth after a C-section)
As for my assessment of the latest episode... Not too bad, and I'll definitely keep watching. I can understand the reasoning behind burning the infected survivors turned walkers, but a heads up might've been nice (although, if I understand correctly, Tyrese's relationship with the woman-whose-name-I-can't-remember seemed to be a bit hush-hush).
There was one thing that didn't seem right. As she was returning from her cell block, she was followed by the infected kid, right? And she got in bed to sleep and he arrived seconds later, correct? Another person coughed, he then shuffled off to the next cell. And she fell asleep so quickly that she didn't hear the shuffling? The gurgling sounds next door? She was jumping at curtains minutes earlier, and now those suspicious sounds completely escape her notice? Didn't seem right.
The pig scene seemed a bit over the top, and burning the pig sty, while logical, didn't seem prudent. That grass looked so dry, it looked like the whole place could've gone up in a flash.
And yeah, I agree that Glenn and Maggie haven't been doing a great job keeping watch, that flashlight by the fence should've set off a few alarm bells...
So why don't they bring more vehicles back when they go out? Instead of using logs they could park a car or truck against the fence to help reinforce it. Helps with security and also good by having them around for spare parts.
They could. But they have a Hyundai Tuscon. FUELED BY NEW THINKING, The 6-speed SHIFTRONIC® transmission gives you more control. And a more fuel-efficient engine powers it all giving the Tucson an impressive EPA-estimated 30 MPG HWY2.* The available panoramic sunroof extends from the front seats to the back, bringing in light and fresh air. A rear spoiler with brake lights built in. And in between, flowing lines and fluidic sculpture that are uniquely Hyundai. The versatility you're looking for in a crossover. And all of the options to make it feel like you designed it yourself.
Why would they need more than *that* car?
I'm gonna be honest. Until you started mentioning the Hyundai, I had no idea what car was being advertised. I mean, I know they have been a newish car that was probably a placement, but I never noticed what it was, nor ever cared.
It would really suck to be into TV and not be able to tune out that kind of stuff.
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