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I'm really liking Shogun so far. Hiroyuki Sanada has been great in every role I've seen him in. I watched some behind-the-scenes videos. It's his first time as a producer, and he wanted everything to be as accurate as possible to Japan in the time period. They changed a few names from the novel because they were modern names not used in the 1600s. A friend confirmed they're speaking Japanese from the 1600s, analogous to Shakespearean vs modern English.

Rat Boy wrote:

Is it just me, or does it feel like Shogun's like if someone did a historical fiction epic about General George Williamson getting assist from the Marquis LaFleur?

I'm not familiar with that bit of history. To me, if feels like someone did a historical fiction epic about the arrival of William Adams in Japan and the rise of the Tokugawa Shogunate (most of my knowledge is admittedly from playing the "unify Japan" scenario in Europa Universalis IV).

slazev wrote:

That first episode where they're supposed to be speaking Dutch and then Portuguese but all in English was a bit weird.

That bothered me a little as well, considering the pains they took to ensure so much accuracy, but I do understand why they did it, as you said, to avoid a 100% subtitled show.

I expect the show to be nominated for a lot of awards. I think the costumes are fantastic.

But is it as good of a Japanese meets the West epic as Blue Eyed Samurai?

(That show really surprised me)

So far I'm liking Shogun, but with my wife out of town, I've only watched the first couple of episodes. Will probably catch up next week.

deftly wrote:

I'm really liking Shogun so far. Hiroyuki Sanada has been great in every role I've seen him in. I watched some behind-the-scenes videos. It's his first time as a producer, and he wanted everything to be as accurate as possible to Japan in the time period. They changed a few names from the novel because they were modern names not used in the 1600s. A friend confirmed they're speaking Japanese from the 1600s, analogous to Shakespearean vs modern English.

This is another point against the authenticity. They speak modern English.
Again, we would need subtitles for everything.

Actually, do the Japanese need subtitles? I don't know how different that old Japanese is against the modern version.

slazev wrote:

They speak modern English. :D

Technically for the most part they're speaking Portuguese translated into modern English for the sake of the target audience.

Shogun Episode 5

Yes, as has been mentioned, the characters of this show are basically historical figures with their names changed, but it was still interesting/chilling to find out that Mariko's father was the fictional equivalent of the man who orchestrated the assassination of Oda Nobunaga.

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It's also been interesting to see, based on this miniseries' popularity, just how many related video games, books, films, TV shows, and documentaries are getting the "rising tide floats all boats" treatment in terms of promotions, sales, and algorithm recommendations.

I think Three Body Problem is doing something similar for Chinese media.

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All right, how long before someone makes a Perfect Strangers opening credits video with Yabushige and the Anjin?

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This has to be a star-making role for Anna Sawai, right?

Rat Boy wrote:

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This has to be a star-making role for Anna Sawai, right?

That latest episode is intense.

Rat Boy wrote:

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This has to be a star-making role for Anna Sawai, right?

She's great in Monarch as well.

If the final episode of Shogun was missing anything, it was...

Spoiler:

... Ishido getting buried up to his neck to die three days later. Jerk.

I didnt really expect to like a network show like Animal Control, but it grabbed me and grew on me.

Like Game of Thrones when they got ahead of the books this will be "winging it". The book Shogun ended where the show ended. Clarvell's other books are not about the same people so it will all be uncharted.

farley3k wrote:

Like Game of Thrones when they got ahead of the books this will be "winging it". The book Shogun ended where the show ended. Clarvell's other books are not about the same people so it will all be uncharted.

What if it's all the same actors, but instead they do James Mitchener's Chesapeake?

Or they just follow Japanese history?

And my axe!