Soccer Gaming Catch-All

I tried the Demo, and... in my life, I really only have time for like FM and maybe ONE other game right now. It was going to be NBA 2K20 but...

Call me insane, but I kinda wanna do PES this year? Even fully under the knowledge that I probably won't play the game for a month until the fine members of the online community have released a massive kit and team update so i'm not playing WEST LONDON WHITE anymore?

Also, they'd better let me create a manager, because I don't want to be ANY of those guys.

Prederick wrote:

I tried the Demo, and... in my life, I really only have time for like FM and maybe ONE other game right now. It was going to be NBA 2K20 but...

Call me insane, but I kinda wanna do PES this year? Even fully under the knowledge that I probably won't play the game for a month until the fine members of the online community have released a massive kit and team update so i'm not playing WEST LONDON WHITE anymore?

Also, they'd better let me create a manager, because I don't want to be ANY of those guys.

I read some early reviews, played some of the demo, and decided to go for it. Ordered it on Amazon, 15 EUR cheaper for two days waiting until delivery.

The reviews I read spoke highly of the match gameplay and improved menu's, and were critical of the single player modes. But I don't care, I just want to play a game here or there. Should be interesting to play Anderlecht with Kompany and Nasri, as the Belgian Pro League is fully licensed.

I have always been a EA FIFA fanboy mostly because I loved the license stuff and the Virtual Pro online game play with friends. They have been minimizing investment in that over the last several seasons so if this one doesn't do well, I may opt for PES.

I've just never enjoyed FIFA's gameplay the way I did PES's. Neither is perfect and both games still infuriate me that the difficulty level you're playing on is far, far, FAR more important than the team you're playing (there is nothing I hate in gaming more than taking on freaking Swindon Town and watching them play like Barcelona because it's on one of the hardest difficulty levels).

But if I had t choose I'd go with PES, even though as much as I'd like to pretend gameplay >>>> licenses, the utter lack of licenses does begin to grate. Like I said, if I get it, it'll only be once I figure out where to go to get a big data update fixing a bunch of the kits/logos/team names.

Okay, pulled the trigger on PES. Haven't had a chance to play it yet but it'll be downloaded and ready to go soon as I'm off work.

This is the first year one of these games isn't going to be a day one purchase for me. FIFA just doesn't do it for me anymore, even the pros have been saying that the game is going downhill from what I've seen. Just got the point of feeling the gameplay isn't there anymore, with all the focus being on ensuring the whales continue to spend on packs.

I'm more tempted to give PES a go if it has a decent online; that being games are stable enough to play - all I want to do it play a few games for a bit of online competition; the ultimate team on FIFA outside anyone who isn't willing to either dedicate most of their time to it or spend hundreds.

I know a few people who have dropped off FIFA recently, and heard a few rumblings this year from others who say they're all in for PES after giving the demo a whirl. I'm never one for graphics either, but the stills of PES in game look amazing!

On top of that, I'm also considering not purchasing FM20, which will be my first none Sports Interative purchase since...Championship Manager 3! I'm just fairly happy with my FM19 game and not really in the mood to start over since my time dedicated to FM has massively reduced over the years.

To summarise - Rocket League is the one true soccer game

I got and played PES 2020 the last week, mostly the Master League. And honestly, I 100% agree with the Eurogamer review

PES 2020 is a patch or three away from being a very good game. As it stands, it's a weird mix of brilliant and broken.

PES 2020 is a weird game. At times I couldn't help but think, is this the best PES ever? Gameplay wise, I mean. The ball... PES 2020's ball is a thing of beauty, the best video game football I've ever virtually kicked. It feels weighty, it bounces realistically and travels through the air in delicious arcs David Beckham birthed in his pomp.

The animations... PES 2020's player animations are a joy to behold. Outside of the boot flicked through balls to overlapping full-backs, no-look crosses, deft chips, and, when players collide, realistic scraps for possession. The fluidity of motion in this game is something else. It's rare that you'll see a player do that jarring sports video game thing of sliding into place to force an animation to meet the ball, or jerk unnaturally as he realises his atoms should be in one position over another.

But then, there's a lot that's not great about the on-pitch action in this year's PES. I'd even go as far as to call some aspects of the gameplay broken.

The broken parts (mostly players standing still while the ball rolls by) will be specifically addressed in the upcoming patch, so here's hoping. Otherwise it really really is an amazing game of footie. Get this: it actually looks better than FIFA! Everything else, the game modes, the menu's, the commentary are as underwhelming and stale as ever. How Konami redid the menu structure is so emblematic of PES: the top menu is reinvigorated, tighter and up to 2019 standards. But every other submenu is simply thrown under there, in the exact same format and style as the last 7 iterations. It's like one of those company intranet sites with a flashy frontend that clicks through to a Sharepoint folder structure.

Oh and I also love this nugget from the Eurogamer review of FIFA 20:

FIFA 20 is all these things but it's also better than FIFA 19. I've already played loads of games against Eurogamer's second-best FIFA player, Chris Tapsell, and I've had a great laugh. I've scored some screamers. I've lost to added time goals. We've leapt off the sofa at shocking refereeing decisions, missed open goals by Marcus Rashford and magic from Mason Mount. We've picked apart the game, worked out what's changed, what's better and what's worse. We've had bloody good fun. And it's all undermined by corporate greed and a stubborn refusal to do what's right.

A bit like real football, then.

Dejanzie, can you check something out in PES 2020 for me? There is a rumour that the CL 'anthem' gets booed at City's ground (or Man Blue or whatever they're called). Is this correct ?

davet010 wrote:

Dejanzie, can you check something out in PES 2020 for me? There is a rumour that the CL 'anthem' gets booed at City's ground (or Man Blue or whatever they're called). Is this correct ?

Oh my I'll check tonight, should be interesting. The CL anthem shouldn't be in there as Konami lost the UEFA license to EA, but I suppose you mean whatever they replaced it with.

Also of note: the teams are no longer called Man Blue or London FC, they're closer to the real thing (Manchester B and Chelsea B)

There was no ruckus during the PES equivalent of the Champions league, there wasn't even a hymn.

You might call these rumors you heard...

Spoiler:

fake boos

YEEEEEAAAAAAAH...

dejanzie wrote:

You might call these rumors you heard...

Spoiler:

fake boos

YEEEEEAAAAAAAH...

(I'm thinking... wait until Halloween for PES? The best option file is apparently $12, which I'm fine with for the work that goes into it.)