League Of Legends Catch All

Good times this weekend as we pulled off a 20-person LAN and played a bunch of LOL... among other stuff. Experience levels varied widely, with a few guys never having played to 5 or 6 level 30s. Pulled off 2 or 3 games of Summoner's Rift, a game of Dominion, and a game on Twisted Treeline over a couple of days and good times were had by all. Most of the games were pretty wacky, with laning roles and positioning all over the place... I don't think we pulled off a single actual teamfight in either of the two SR games.

Fun playing as singed. So tear of the goddess procs every second (has a 1 sec cooldown I think) on singed's poison. So in 12.5 minutes if you keep it on you can instant buy the upgraded archangels or manamune. The upgraded archangels gives a shield based on percentage of mana. mix it with a frozen heart and its just plain awesome. Assuming you remember to hit it in team fights XD
my current favorite build is archangles staff upgraded, torment mask, frozen heart, swift boots with homeguard, abysal scepter, ward stone/ or if someone else is doing wards, sunfire cape just to be mean. been rushing frozen heart to start building it and the mask for spell pen. but if I am getting wrecked top lane I might buy some gp10s with the tear and mask. I could go tankier with warmogs or something, dont know, it really depends on the game. I think tear and mask are currently my must have. the increase in damage for team fights and the sustain in mana for team fights really help. allows me to just cover the field with poison that tears their carries health apart and makes them focus on me so that my carries can ace them. And with homeguard pushing lanes is easy, go back run to a lane and push it hard and rinse repeat.

I've been having a lot of fun with liandry's on support zyra, DFG brought eve back into my play book for hilarious burst and get outa Dodge plays.

Man, Black Cleaver is so dumb on everyone that deals physical damage. I got it on MF last night, and my ult just melted everyone in teamfights because each hit applied the armor shred. It's not good design to have an item with flat and % based penetration. There is no counter.

Dyni wrote:

Man, Black Cleaver is so dumb on everyone that deals physical damage. I got it on MF last night, and my ult just melted everyone in teamfights because each hit applied the armor shred. It's not good design to have an item with flat and % based penetration. There is no counter.

Thankfully, and apparently, nerfs for it are already on public test. I hear it's becoming a unique passive and the armor shred is getting a reduction.

Black Raven/Nights should be postin up a vid any time of a match last night we had an MF that bought 2 black cleavers (Shynex i think) and myself on Nami. Caught 4 in ult/bubble and MF vaporized them in ult for a quadra.

Funny, there used to be only a handful of times you'd take Black Cleaver over Last Whisper. So they gave it a buff to make it useful, and overdid it.

BC>LW>BC is the new move. Any kind of multi-hit, like Panth's spear-fan thingy or MF's ult, shreds the enemy's armor to the point you're doing true damage. Or a BC and a Ravenous Hydra. There is no armor.

Beware of face checking garens. They may just be a scout for an mf ult.

Fuzzballx wrote:
Dyni wrote:

Man, Black Cleaver is so dumb on everyone that deals physical damage. I got it on MF last night, and my ult just melted everyone in teamfights because each hit applied the armor shred. It's not good design to have an item with flat and % based penetration. There is no counter.

Thankfully, and apparently, nerfs for it are already on public test. I hear it's becoming a unique passive and the armor shred is getting a reduction.

Black Raven/Nights should be postin up a vid any time of a match last night we had an MF that bought 2 black cleavers (Shynex i think) and myself on Nami. Caught 4 in ult/bubble and MF vaporized them in ult for a quadra.

It's uploading now. I'll post it later tonight. Go go fast college internets~

Miashara wrote:

BC>LW>BC is the new move. Any kind of multi-hit, like Panth's spear-fan thingy or MF's ult, shreds the enemy's armor to the point you're doing true damage. Or a BC and a Ravenous Hydra. There is no armor.

At least giant belt is cheaper. I might just start filling my slots with them until cleaver is nerfed. Doran shield, does that unique passive work on attacks that cleaver work on?

Shynex is mean...

I was told to go check. And I would just like to state that in fights where I died first i was the only one that died. When I died later we did not do as well.

!!!!!

Dyni wrote:

Man, Black Cleaver is so dumb on everyone that deals physical damage. I got it on MF last night, and my ult just melted everyone in teamfights because each hit applied the armor shred. It's not good design to have an item with flat and % based penetration. There is no counter.

I agree that BC is overpowered but I do think that MF's ult has been underpowered for the longest time. It used to be the case that if you landed it perfectly for the full duration like you did there then it would barely scratch the enemy team. That team deserved to get melted for being clustered in the jungle against Nami's CC and MF + Kat combined AoE.

I think MF's ult has been pretty great ever since they added more physical damage scaling and reduced the wind-up time. I've always managed to get pretty good results with it, at least. I think people underestimate how useful the huge range is. It's just a nice bonus for MF that Black Cleaver synergies so well with her ult.

Speaking of item/ult synergy... Try this out, Crinkle:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...

He's wrong about her Q working with it, but the ult interaction looks like fun for instagib action.

Also, support Ashe. Probably not long term effective, but I fed Vayne like a Golden Corral buffet.

I have had mucho fun playing MF with the retardedly strong interaction between Black Cleaver and her ult. My only complaint is that I was constantly running out of mana, but apparently this is only because I use her abilities, and Cathadan does not have such a problem.

Sounds fun to try the Muramana thing on Syndra once just for giggles, but she already demolishes people pretty handily 1v1. Definitely something I'll do next time we win every lane early.

So, rework of default skin. I wonder if they changed anything, like AP ratio?

Complex wrote:

So, rework of default skin. I wonder if they changed anything, like AP ratio?

I think they were only updating her model. Though watching that reminded me that I've been wanting to learn her... I pray we can still win games if I try, haha.

Nights wrote:
Complex wrote:

So, rework of default skin. I wonder if they changed anything, like AP ratio?

I think they were only updating her model. Though watching that reminded me that I've been wanting to learn her... I pray we can still win games if I try, haha.

You are only allowed to play your best champ and carry me as I try out Vlad jungle and attack speed Taric top.

carrotpanic wrote:

You are only allowed to play your best champ and carry me as I try out Vlad jungle and attack speed Taric top.

TONS OF DA^h^hMANA REGEN

Jow wrote:
carrotpanic wrote:

You are only allowed to play your best champ and carry me as I try out Vlad jungle and attack speed Taric top.

TONS OF DA^h^hMANA REGEN

I've seen wizardcrab play taric top with nashor's tooth. I'm not sure how, but he wrecked things.

Nights wrote:
Jow wrote:
carrotpanic wrote:

You are only allowed to play your best champ and carry me as I try out Vlad jungle and attack speed Taric top.

TONS OF DA^h^hMANA REGEN

I've seen wizardcrab play taric top with nashor's tooth. I'm not sure how, but he wrecked things.

I know how: he was playing against Complex.

Nashor's Taric is god against no slows. Fabulous god.

Dyni wrote:
Nights wrote:
Jow wrote:
carrotpanic wrote:

You are only allowed to play your best champ and carry me as I try out Vlad jungle and attack speed Taric top.

TONS OF DA^h^hMANA REGEN

I've seen wizardcrab play taric top with nashor's tooth. I'm not sure how, but he wrecked things.

I know how: he was playing against Complex.

A) I have never played against a Taric Top
B) Suck it Dyni.
C) .... [Insert cutting insult to Dyni here]

Mr Crinkle wrote:

I have had mucho fun playing MF with the retardedly strong interaction between Black Cleaver and her ult. My only complaint is that I was constantly running out of mana, but apparently this is only because I use her abilities, and Cathadan does not have such a problem.

She's an AD carry. Why use abilities and run out of mana when you could just shoot them with your gun? That way you'll have mana left over in order to embarrassingly cancel your ult as soon as it comes off cooldown from the last time you canceled it. That's what works best for me, anyway.

people overuse her aoe slow when not needed to slow....her Q is great poke but should be used sparingly when you can poke the right target with it's second hit.

psoplayer wrote:
Mr Crinkle wrote:

I have had mucho fun playing MF with the retardedly strong interaction between Black Cleaver and her ult. My only complaint is that I was constantly running out of mana, but apparently this is only because I use her abilities, and Cathadan does not have such a problem.

She's an AD carry. Why use abilities and run out of mana when you could just shoot them with your gun? That way you'll have mana left over in order to embarrassingly cancel your ult as soon as it comes off cooldown from the last time you canceled it. That's what works best for me, anyway.

Me playing Cait:

Hits R

They're getting away!

Right clicks

... fffffffffffffffff--

So, a new meta is sprouting up with the OP black cleaver issue. Now teams are going straight AD Bruisers and ignoring magic all together. With AD items cheaper and black cleaver stackable, players are now able to do true damage with their AD casters due to the horrific amount of penetration. While health is a little cheaper, the items that health builds into not so much, and the damage options are so much cheaper for AD Casters that unless you shut them down hard, they will out gear you quickly.

Complex wrote:

So, a new meta is sprouting up with the OP black cleaver issue. Now teams are going straight AD Bruisers and ignoring magic all together. With AD items cheaper and black cleaver stackable, players are now able to do true damage with their AD casters due to the horrific amount of penetration. While health is a little cheaper, the items that health builds into not so much, and the damage options are so much cheaper for AD Casters that unless you shut them down hard, they will out gear you quickly.

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