E=MC squared is a liberal plot

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Conservapedia, that bastion of research and science, is doing its best to show how Einstein's theory of relativity is just one giant liberal plot. An article on The Straight Dope points out the silliness.

From the Counterexamples to Relativity:

↑ See, e.g., historian Paul Johnson's book about the 20th century, and the article written by liberal law professor Laurence Tribe as allegedly assisted by Barack Obama. Virtually no one who is taught and believes relativity continues to read the Bible, a book that outsells New York Times bestsellers by a hundred-fold.

Some fine science there, guys.

Seems like a reasonable explanation.

For more hilarity, apparently the fact that Cicadas appear every 13 or 17 years (depending on the species) is proof that evolution does not exist.

7. the fact that cicadas appear like clockwork every 13 years for some species, and every 17 years for others.

Taken from the Counterexamples to Evolution.

Relativity has since been superceded by The Theory of A Wizard Did It.

I'm going to invoke Poe's Law.

Tkyl wrote:

For more hilarity, apparently the fact that Cicadas appear every 13 or 17 years (depending on the species) is proof that evolution does not exist.

7. the fact that cicadas appear like clockwork every 13 years for some species, and every 17 years for others.

Taken from the Counterexamples to Evolution.

My head hurts now. How can people believe this crap:(

This is a joke site, right?

LobsterMobster wrote:

I'm going to invoke Poe's Law.

Conservapedia isn't a joke. If it is, it's the best-hidden joke ever. These people are actually this stupid.

Sadly, it is real.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

I'm going to invoke Poe's Law.

Conservapedia isn't a joke. If it is, it's the best-hidden joke ever. These people are actually this stupid.

I think it has to be some people trolling the internet. I mean, no one could actually believe what's on that site.

Part of me wants to just completely dismiss these people, but another part of me knows that a good portion of the population either believes this or similar stuff, or would believe it if someone told them it was true.

That makes me sad... and angry... and then more sad.

From the E man himself.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."

Ulairi wrote:

I think it has to be some people trolling the internet. I mean, no one could actually believe what's on that site.

Sure. You'd also think that no one could actually believe that vaccines cause autism without a shred of credible evidence, or that Barack Obama is a socialist, communist Marxist who wants to destroy the American economy so he can take over as dictator. You'd think that, but there is apparently a bottomless well of stupidity in this country that means you'd be wrong.

Hehe.
Another great one was a paper by a completely serious religious studies student that Mathematics and all its derivatives are essentially a religion based on the essence of probability. Its almost to stupid to post, but arguing axioms is great when the other person can't draw any conclusions.
These are the things we laugh about at math camp. In the lobby of the department that allowed him to publish.

boogle wrote:

Hehe.
Another great one was a paper by a completely serious religious studies student that Mathematics and all its derivatives are essentially a religion based on the essence of probability. Its almost to stupid to post, but arguing axioms is great when the other person can't draw any conclusions.
These are the things we laugh about at math camp. In the lobby of the department that allowed him to publish.

I reject the notion that anything is too stupid to post. We must all be aware of the Morlocks that dwell among us.

Podunk wrote:

You'd also think that no one could actually believe that vaccines cause autism without a shred of credible evidence

Excuse me! Jenny McCarthy says it's so. There's your evidence!

Ulairi wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

I'm going to invoke Poe's Law.

Conservapedia isn't a joke. If it is, it's the best-hidden joke ever. These people are actually this stupid.

I think it has to be some people trolling the internet. I mean, no one could actually believe what's on that site.

True story; I used to own a bookstore and one day a seemingly normal looking woman berated me for carrying children's books about dinosaurs, because dinosaurs are an evil plot to make children question the bible.

Badferret wrote:

True story; I used to own a bookstore and one day a seemingly normal looking woman berated me for carrying children's books about dinosaurs, because dinosaurs are an evil plot to make children question the bible.

I do hope that you informed her that the Bible is actually an evil plot to make children question the existence of dinosaurs.

I rate telling children that dinosaurs never existed as far more bastardly than telling them that Santa didn't exist. Dinosaurs are way awersomer than a fat dude in a red coat.

Jonman wrote:
Badferret wrote:

True story; I used to own a bookstore and one day a seemingly normal looking woman berated me for carrying children's books about dinosaurs, because dinosaurs are an evil plot to make children question the bible.

I do hope that you informed her that the Bible is actually an evil plot to make children question the existence of dinosaurs.

I rate telling children that dinosaurs never existed as far more bastardly than telling them that Santa didn't exist. Dinosaurs are way awersomer than a fat dude in a red coat.

This is definitely true! A friend of mine convinced me to go to the Museum of Natural History while he was visting NYC recently, and I finally saw dinosaur skeletons in person for the first time. I was awestruck, and could finally understand the raw emotional appeal (as opposed to my normal interest from interests in biology and history) ... one of those things that is never really clear until a first-hand encounter.

Jonman wrote:
Badferret wrote:

True story; I used to own a bookstore and one day a seemingly normal looking woman berated me for carrying children's books about dinosaurs, because dinosaurs are an evil plot to make children question the Bible.

I do hope that you informed her that the Bible is actually an evil plot to make children question the existence of dinosaurs.

I rate telling children that dinosaurs never existed as far more bastardly than telling them that Santa didn't exist. Dinosaurs are way awersomer than a fat dude in a red coat.

I should have.

Sadly, as I live in the Bible Belt, I basically had to politely inform her that we would continue to carry dinosaur books, you know for the godless Yankee tourist that came to town.

Looking through the references, you have to love how only two of them appear to be to actual scientific papers. The majority of references are just statements with no links elsewhere, and one even refers to another page within the same wiki.

Very scientifical!

Hmm, the only other group to go for relativity like this was the Nazi-sponsored Philipp Lenard and his 'Deutsche Physik' theories, who considered relativity to be a 'jewish fraud'.

I guess idiots really do flock together, regardless of language.

Oh, and the UK's version of 'vaccines cause autism' was aimed at the triple MMR jab (but not the individual ones, oddly enough), ended up resulting in increased incidence of them, and the doctor responsible for the poor science involved in the original study has, I believe, just been struck off.

Should have been injected with mumps and left to rot.

Ulairi wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

I'm going to invoke Poe's Law.

Conservapedia isn't a joke. If it is, it's the best-hidden joke ever. These people are actually this stupid.

I think it has to be some people trolling the internet. I mean, no one could actually believe what's on that site.

Sadly, no. The founder of it simply found too much liberal bias on Wikipedia with all its science and history and such.

You'd also think that no one could actually believe that vaccines cause autism without a shred of credible evidence

Their was a paper published in the leading medical journal that gave some credence to that theory. Despite the fact that the paper and its publisher were shown to be complete and utter manipulated sh*t, desperate parent's searching for a answer will grab on to anything that seems credible, especially if a doc is saying it, so let's not go bashing everyone just because armed with hindsight, we're much smarter then them.

MaverickDago wrote:
You'd also think that no one could actually believe that vaccines cause autism without a shred of credible evidence

Their was a paper published in the leading medical journal that gave some credence to that theory. Despite the fact that the paper and its publisher were shown to be complete and utter manipulated sh*t, desperate parent's searching for a answer will grab on to anything that seems credible, especially if a doc is saying it, so let's not go bashing everyone just because armed with hindsight, we're much smarter then them.

The people who believed it when the paper first came out I can forgive, but the people who still believe in a connection between vaccines and autism despite numerous studies that show absolutely no connection (other than the shots are given around the same age that autism becomes noticeable) deserve to be bashed.

Podunk wrote:
Ulairi wrote:

I think it has to be some people trolling the internet. I mean, no one could actually believe what's on that site.

Sure. You'd also think that no one could actually believe that vaccines cause autism without a shred of credible evidence, or that Barack Obama is a socialist, communist Marxist who wants to destroy the American economy so he can take over as dictator. You'd think that, but there is apparently a bottomless well of stupidity in this country that means you'd be wrong.

The Bob Inglis story makes me a sad, sad panda.

Badferret wrote:
Ulairi wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

I'm going to invoke Poe's Law.

Conservapedia isn't a joke. If it is, it's the best-hidden joke ever. These people are actually this stupid.

I think it has to be some people trolling the internet. I mean, no one could actually believe what's on that site.

True story; I used to own a bookstore and one day a seemingly normal looking woman berated me for carrying children's books about dinosaurs, because dinosaurs are an evil plot to make children question the bible.

IMAGE(http://pics.livejournal.com/rebness/pic/00093az0)

Goddamned liberals trying to shut down FTL drives.

Vector wrote:
Badferret wrote:
Ulairi wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

I'm going to invoke Poe's Law.

Conservapedia isn't a joke. If it is, it's the best-hidden joke ever. These people are actually this stupid.

I think it has to be some people trolling the internet. I mean, no one could actually believe what's on that site.

True story; I used to own a bookstore and one day a seemingly normal looking woman berated me for carrying children's books about dinosaurs, because dinosaurs are an evil plot to make children question the bible.

IMAGE(http://pics.livejournal.com/rebness/pic/00093az0)

Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

MaverickDago wrote:

Their was a paper published in the leading medical journal that gave some credence to that theory. Despite the fact that the paper and its publisher were shown to be complete and utter manipulated sh*t, desperate parent's searching for a answer will grab on to anything that seems credible, especially if a doc is saying it, so let's not go bashing everyone just because armed with hindsight, we're much smarter then them.

Ah, yeah, you're referring to this. I'm not bashing the people who believed in the now-discredited study back in 1998, though jumping on one study as decisive evidence that the worldwide medical community is OMG POISONING OUR KIDS is probably worthy of at least a little bit of ridicule. I'm bashing the idiots who continue to believe it now, in spite of the fact that nothing remotely credible remains to support their position. I'm a little extra bitter about this at the moment, since my kids and I (all vaccinated, btw) are currently recovering from whooping cough, a disease that has been allowed to come back from the brink of oblivion by the {ableist slur} bumpkins who refuse to vaccinate their kids.

buzzvang wrote:

The Bob Inglis story makes me a sad, sad panda.

Me too, man.

MaverickDago wrote:
You'd also think that no one could actually believe that vaccines cause autism without a shred of credible evidence

Their was a paper published in the leading medical journal that gave some credence to that theory. Despite the fact that the paper and its publisher were shown to be complete and utter manipulated sh*t, desperate parent's searching for a answer will grab on to anything that seems credible, especially if a doc is saying it, so let's not go bashing everyone just because armed with hindsight, we're much smarter then them.

This is true, but also keep in mind that there have been attempts to link vaccines with all manner of disorders long before the Lancet study was published. In fact, part of the issue with that study is that it seems to have been geared specifically toward the conclusion that it reached.

Podunk wrote:

I'm a little extra bitter about this at the moment, since my kids and I (all vaccinated, btw) are currently recovering from whooping cough, a disease that has been allowed to come back from the brink of oblivion by the {ableist slur} bumpkins who refuse to vaccinate their kids.

I'll also admit that I'm less patient with this sort of thing now that I have a one-year-old and another child on the way. It makes me keenly aware of the ways that other people's decisions can endanger my children.

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