NHL 2010-2011: Free Agents; Kovalchuk Free Agency

Are Toronto fans upset that Nash signed with Columbus and won't be moving up there? It almost sounded like the Toronto media wrote it as a done deal.

nihilo wrote:

They're going on a road trip, and we can't wait to be rid of them. Hopefully while they're out there they figure out how to play.

Last night, they had a pretty decent first period, but Lundqvist was stellar in the other net. Nothing you can do about that except keep playing hard and keep it close. However, once we fell behind 3 -1 it seemed like most of the fight went out of the Leafs. Especially the 3rd period, it was ugly. The fans did not hold back the boos, either.

What is Ron Wilson going to do to get these guys going? It seems like he's tried everything already.

A coach can only do so much with a bunch of stiffs who can't play hockey. Its time people fess up to the reality that the Brian Burke magic isn't so magical. I look at the team he put together in Anaheim* to win the cup and their top 5 players? maybe more are better then Toronto's best whoever that might even be.

*how much of that team did he even put together? Perry and Getzlaf were already drafted. Giguère already there. Can't find exactly when Burke started but at best he signed Niedermayer who wanted to come play with his brother, signed Sellanne who already had a soft spot for Anaheim and traded allot for Pronger the last piece. So he added 3 hall of famers to a team that already made the finals in 2003.... and thats assuming he did all three as I can't find the exact time lines.

jowner wrote:

*how much of that team did he even put together? Perry and Getzlaf were already drafted. Giguère already there. Can't find exactly when Burke started but at best he signed Niedermayer who wanted to come play with his brother, signed Sellanne who already had a soft spot for Anaheim and traded allot for Pronger the last piece. So he added 3 hall of famers to a team that already made the finals in 2003.... and thats assuming he did all three as I can't find the exact time lines.

He did all those. Also signed DiPenta, acquired May & Parros, and turned a salary dump trade of Fedorov into Francois Beauchemin. Those are depth moves but a team doesn't win the Cup without depth.

trowan wrote:

Are Toronto fans upset that Nash signed with Columbus and won't be moving up there? It almost sounded like the Toronto media wrote it as a done deal.

Our media is well known for blowing a lot of smoke. There are rumours for pretty much every potential free agent to come to Toronto. The one I like best is Marc Savard reuniting with Kessel, but even that is a long shot.

jowner wrote:

A coach can only do so much with a bunch of stiffs who can't play hockey. Its time people fess up to the reality that the Brian Burke magic isn't so magical.

Say what you like, but Beauchemin, Komisarek and Kaberle are the core of a good defence. Schenn showed himself quite capable last year. None of those guys are playing anywhere near their ability. Hell, none of the Leafs are playing to their ability. It's not a good team, no, but they're not this bad.

Also, Burke is much much better GM than JFJ. Much better. He's been working very hard, landed us Bozak and Gustavsson in the off season, and for the most part I like what he's done. I didn't like the Kessel trade from the start, but the season is still young and maybe somehow this thing gets turned around and that one turns out ok. The hype machine in Toronto is ridiculous, and is probably the reason why you're railing against Burke, but so far he has done a lot with a little. That Kessel trade is going to be hanging over our heads though.. I don't like that one bit.

This road trip had better help a ton. Those guys need to get their act together, believe in themselves and work together, go on a journey of self-discovery or whatever. Just win a game. Then win a second game.

Wow, on the off-ice side, here is a list from Newsday about cities interested in the Islanders, another team, or an expansion team:

Cities that might be interested in the Islanders

October 17, 2009 By RANDI F. MARSHALL AND EDEN LAIKIN

QUEENS Arena: Could be built in Willets Point, near Citi Field.. The challenge: Securing land for an arena and having two hockey teams, the Rangers and Islanders, so close together..

BROOKLYN Arena: Atlantic Yards area is to be the site of new arena for the National Basketball Association's New Jersey Nets.. The challenge: As now designed, the arena doesn't meet National Hockey League rules. Sources say there's been no talks between Islanders owner Charles Wang and Atlantic Yards developer Bruce Ratner..

QUEBEC CITY Arena: Colisee Pepsi, built 1950. The NHL Nordiques played there until 1995. Friday, the city announced it plans to build a new arena in hopes of bringing back an NHL team and of hosting the Winter Olympics.. The challenge: Quebec would need a new arena..

WINNIPEG, MANITOBA Arena: MTS Centre; opened 2004. The challenge: Winnipeg isn't looking at the Islanders as its first choice, as sources there note that teams in Tennessee, Arizona, Florida and Georgia all may have reasons to move..

SASKATOON, SASKATCHEWAN Arena: Credit Union Center. The challenge: Saskatoon's population, at about 212,000, may be too small to support an NHL team, says Jennifer Balon, director of Saskatoon's regional economic development agency..

HAMILTON, ONTARIO
Arena: Copps Coliseum, opened 1985. The challenge: Some say the Toronto Maple Leafs are too close. And Copps Coliseum would need an overhaul for an NHL team. Other teams have been rumored headed for Hamilton, such as the Phoenix Coyotes and the Atlanta Thrashers..

HARTFORD. Arena: XL Center; opened 1975. The challenge: The city would need a new arena. Local developer Lawrence Gottesdiener has tried twice to bring NHL teams to Hartford, but the teams stayed in their cities..

KANSAS CITY, MO. Arena: Sprint Center, opened 2007. The challenge: Fewer than 10,000 fans attended the preseason game the Islanders played in Kansas City in September. Although even fewer attended preseason games at the Nassau Coliseum, some thought that Kansas City should have gotten a better showing..

LAS VEGAS
Arena: None.. The challenge: It could take up to two years to design and build an arena to seat between 18,000 and 20,000 fans..

SEATTLE Arena: KeyArena, rebuilt 1995. The challenge: Seattle would need a new arena to house an NHL team, and the economy has put most discussions on hold, sources said..

HOUSTON. Arena: Toyota Center. The challenge: The city is open to an NHL team, but it's not actively pursuing one..

OKLAHOMA CITY
Arena: Ford Center or Cox Convention Center. The challenge: Talk in Oklahoma City centers around luring an American Hockey League franchise, not necessarily an NHL team.

TULSA, OKLA.
Arena: BOK Center. The challenge: Advocates say Tulsa should try to lure an NHL team. But there's a lot of competition among would-be NHL cities, and sources say Tulsa isn't at the top of most lists.

PORTLAND, ORE.
Arena: Rose Garden, opened 1995. The challenge: Economic development officials, including representatives from the NBA's Portland Trail Blazers are working on how to best use the arena and the surrounding area..
DES MOINES. Arena: Wells Fargo Arena, opened 2005. The challenge: The arena's general manager, Matt Homan, said the market may be too small to support an NHL team, but he is still hoping to bring hockey to the area.

MaxShrek wrote:

KANSAS CITY, MO. Arena: Sprint Center, opened 2007. The challenge: Fewer than 10,000 fans attended the preseason game the Islanders played in Kansas City in September. Although even fewer attended preseason games at the Nassau Coliseum, some thought that Kansas City should have gotten a better showing..

The Miami Heat and New Orleans Hornets played a preseason game in the same arena to more than 17,000 the other night. that game featured former Jayhawk stars, Julian wright and Mario Chalmers, as well as Michael Beasley that spent a year at K State. For Kansas City, that's the route they need to take in order to draw fans on a consistent basis. there is just too small of a hockey fan base in Kansas City, but Kansas, particularly with the Jayhawks becoming a dominant force on the NCAA over the last 20 years, has created plenty of basketball fans that can be converted to NBA fans much easier than teaching hockey to a city really has very little history with the sport.

But a hockey team may be easier to procure than an NBA team. I'm afraid that would be a big mistake for both the NHL and Kansas City.

If an NBA team came to KC, and then acquired a couple of Jayhawk (as well as some Mizzou players) players for the first few seasons, they could build a product to draw fans.

It may not be that hard, isn't the Memphis Grizzlies experiment turning into a disaster? Also, if the Brooklyn Arena plan falls through and Newark, NJ isn't an option, the Nets don't even draw flies in Jersey.

Y'know, I'm not ordinarily one to bitch about referees, but damned if last night's Avs/Wild game wasn't one of the worst-ref'd games I've ever seen. Seven powerplays to the Wild, ref? I know the Wild couldn't get out of their own end, let alone score, unless they were on a powerplay, but come on! And ignoring that hand-pass across half the ice by a Wild player while giving the Avs a "delay of game" penalty for a reflected shot? Impressive.

Full marks to the Wild goalie at the end, though. Well-played.

Jeff Schultz scores 190 foot goal against Ondrej Pavelec of the Atlanta Thrashers:

Watching replays of the Red Wings vs. Coyotes game last night. I thought there was a rule that a goal didn't count if you pushed the goaltender into the net after he's made the save. Guess, Brad Watson didn't read that part.

NHL Rulebook wrote:

78.5 Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons:
(i) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick.
(ii) When the puck has been kicked using a distinct kicking motion.
(iii) When the puck has deflected directly into the net off an official.
(iv) When a goal has been scored and an ineligible player is on the ice.
(v) When an attacking player has interfered with a goalkeeper in his goal crease.
(vi) When the puck has been directed into the net by a stick of an attacking player that is above the height of the crossbar.
(vii) When video review confirms the scoring of a goal at one end of the ice, any goal scored at the other end on the same play must be disallowed.
(viii) When a Linesman reports a double-minor penalty for high-sticking, a major penalty or a match penalty to the Referee following the scoring of a goal by the offending team, the goal must be disallowed and the appropriate penalty assessed.
(ix) When a goalkeeper has been pushed into the net together with the puck after making a save.
(x) When the net becomes displaced accidentally. The goal frame is considered to be displaced if either or both goal pegs are no longer in their respective holes in the ice, or the net has come completely off one or both pegs, prior to or as the puck enters the goal.

goal?

Wait just a second....Brad Watson? Where have I heard of him before?

oh, yeah.

Well, I guess he learned to swallow that whistle, huh?

So, Tuomo Ruutu eh?

A Suspension, Surely

Brad Watson, again? What a joke. Does he hate the Red Wings or something?

Prederick wrote:

So, Tuomo Ruutu eh?

A Suspension, Surely

Ruutu fully deserved the 3-game suspension and I believe that wasn't Tuomo's first offense.

Colorado with another win tonight, Leafs lost again (why did Burke have to trade their firsts to Boston of all teams? I could be enjoying this if it wasn't for that), Habs come back to win in OT, and Buffalo scores with 17 seconds left in their game to tie it up, and then beat Tampa Bay in the shootout.

What's going wrong in Detroit right now? 3 straight losses and 8 points from 9 games isn't up to their standards. Mind you, it is early and they are only 5 points back from leading the Central.

Detroit got old, lost too many players in the offseason, and have now lost Franzen. I was afraid that the Blues wins in Sweden may have not have been as impressive as we wanted to believe they were. And sure enough, the blues are playing some fantastically inconsistent hockey, which they got away with in Sweden. It's just costing them a lot right now.

I think they will still get their mojo back, but Murray is going to have to light a fire under those kids.

Roke wrote:

Ruutu fully deserved the 3-game suspension and I believe that wasn't Tuomo's first offense.

Colorado with another win tonight, Leafs lost again...

Saw both Avs home games this weekend (what a treat!) and that Ruutu hit was quite something. Actually didn't see the hit live as I was following the puck action, but had it recorded on my DVR when I got home. The stadium was absolutely stunned, and I think the sight of one of the refs trying to scrape up the pool of blood with his skates really worried the hell out of a lot of people. Glad to hear that Tucker is going to be okay by all signs.

Last night's game against Detroit was fantastic. The usual pre-game back-and-forth between fans was entertaining; my girl and I were wearing our jerseys on the way to our pre-game-margarita base of action when we were passed by a clown-car taxi full of Wings fans crying victory already. Saw a guy wearing a blue Leafs jersey, and gave him full credit for not being a fair-weather fan. Much respect. Half sloshed, we found our seats (great view) and were flanked on one side by a Wings fan and his wife, and on the other by an Avs fan who had brought his friend to his first hockey game ever. What a game to start with! Lots of energy and friendly back and forth with the Wings guys in our section (who were very cool) and the requisite booing of Bertuzzi whenever he touched the puck. Anderson pulled his usual Austin Powers impression, with every woman in the stadium wanting him and every man wanting to be him. The empty net goal was just icing on the cake.

We're all still in total shock that our team, decried by all as destined to live at the bottom of the rankings for a few years, is putting on such a show. It's a great time to be an Avs fan!

Like the guy who posted it said, borderline, but clean. Keep your heads up kids.

Is there something in the Gatorade on the benches in the NHL this weekend?

Players don't have a ton of respect for each other anymore. Honestly not sure if they ever did.

Toronto should have beat the Canucks. Their inability to finish, taking terrible penalties, and Luongo stopped them. Mason Raymond completely destroyed the Leafs with his speed. I'm not complaining, very glad to not have the dishonour of being the first team to lose to the Leafs.

Prederick wrote:

Like the guy who posted it said, borderline, but clean. Keep your heads up kids.

Is there something in the Gatorade on the benches in the NHL this weekend?

I'm a big fan of Mike Richards, but I think that was just on the other side of clean. Shoulder to head = suspension, if you ask me. He did come at him from a weird angle, but if you follow his head, he's looking at the side of Booth's head the whole time he's lining him up.

Vector wrote:

Players don't have a ton of respect for each other anymore. Honestly not sure if they ever did.

Mickey Redmond blames it on the helmets. He has said that a lot of the boarding and high sticking would go away if they went back to playing without helmets.

Vector wrote:

Players don't have a ton of respect for each other anymore. Honestly not sure if they ever did.

Toronto should have beat the Canucks. Their inability to finish, taking terrible penalties, and Luongo stopped them. Mason Raymond completely destroyed the Leafs with his speed. I'm not complaining, very glad to not have the dishonour of being the first team to lose to the Leafs.

They played well Saturday night and never gave up on the game. The 5 straight penalties in the first was terrible (seems like we keep finding new ways to lose), but unlike before, the Leafs didn't get down on themselves and kept coming after Vancouver. I think being on the road helped: if that game had been played in Toronto, the boos would have started after the penalties and things would have spiralled. Toronto just can't finish though. We had a ton of opportunities and the puck stayed out. Stempniak's breakaway attempt was laughable.

Can we get a real goaltender though? Don't get me wrong, Joey McDonald didn't play poorly last night, but we really need someone to steal a game for us. I'm tired of the other team's goalie stealing the game.

Finally! Leafs 6 - Anaheim 3

Coldstream, were you in San Jose and Vancouver? The Avs looked terrible this weekend.

Wow. I can't get over how thoroughly the Canes are stinking up the ice. They looked lost on the ice with the Sharks yesterday. How is it possible that they haven't figured out how to deal with a 2-1-2 forecheck? They literally looked stumped. Then the Sharks fell back to more of a trap in the neutral zone, with the Canes almost never cleanly gaining entry. Couple that with the Canes being unable to win the battles along the boards when they inevitably dumped it in and you wind up with a 5 to 1 losing effort.

I tweeted that it's conceivable that the Hurricanes might never win again. Would it be a record to go 2-76-4? Maybe I'm shortchanging them... they could probably scrape up a couple of OTLs to tally up a few more points.

ColdForged wrote:

Wow. I can't get over how thoroughly the Canes are stinking up the ice. They looked lost on the ice with the Sharks yesterday. How is it possible that they haven't figured out how to deal with a 2-1-2 forecheck? They literally looked stumped. Then the Sharks fell back to more of a trap in the neutral zone, with the Canes almost never cleanly gaining entry. Couple that with the Canes being unable to win the battles along the boards when they inevitably dumped it in and you wind up with a 5 to 1 losing effort.

I tweeted that it's conceivable that the Hurricanes might never win again. Would it be a record to go 2-76-4? Maybe I'm shortchanging them... they could probably scrape up a couple of OTLs to tally up a few more points.

You're right. That was an awesome game.

PsychoKillerZ wrote:

You're right. That was an awesome game. :)

You willfully misconstrued my post, you low-voiced cretin! Slappy gloves at 20 paces!

adam.greenbrier wrote:

Coldstream, were you in San Jose and Vancouver? The Avs looked terrible this weekend.

The Avs have completely fallen apart over the last two games. I suspect that part of it is fatigue from so many away games. They've inarguably had a brutal opening schedule, and the energy that has so impressed everyone is only showing up now and again. I think the defensemen have gotten a little lazy because Anderson is so good, and he's really fatigued. Losing Galliardi sucks too, since he's such a hard-working and capable guy when fighting for the puck.

I think coming home for a bit and getting some rest will do them some good. I'd like to see Budaj in goal for the next 2-3 games to give Anderson a break, and I'm hoping that two absolutely embarrassing losses will wake the defensemen up. The passing, which looked so good early on, has been really sloppy for the last couple of games too, so that needs to get fixed.

To be honest, I'm not going to complain about the Avs. They've already done more for us this season than anyone expected, and I'm delighted that they had such an incredible start. If they fall apart and are mediocre for the rest of the season, I'll still have pleasant memories of a stupendous October. Let's hope they pull it together, though, for some more exciting hockey!

Oh, I'm not ragging on the Avs. They're worn out and they've lost some good players. Cody McCloud might not be the world's best forward, but like Hinote and Lapperierre before him, he brings a lot of grit and energy to the team. Likewise, Galliardi and Tucker aren't on par with players like Foote and Hejduk but are no less valuable to the team. The Avs just need to rest for a few days and refocus.

I loved this quote from Anderson about the fast two goals against in the Calgary game the other night: "Sometimes you just hit the reset on the Nintendo and start over." I'd love to see the team just put these two games behind them.

I was at the Vancouver-Colorado game last night. Avs looked like a young team dealing with injuries. Not a lot of energy and seemed content to sit back. The Canucks are even more banged up. It looked like both teams were playing like they didn't want to get hurt. Kesler and Raymond looked fearless and were the only two to actually score goals (Glass' was just a bad bounce). Ironically Sami Salo hurt himself...again.

Wow the Rangers are no different than last year. The only difference is that Gaborik is doing all of the scoring instead of a commity of people getting a single goal every 5 games. If he gets injured the season could be over.