I have some things to say about LeBron James

Champions know sacrifice.

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Well...

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I think it's funny how annoyed I am. Like, yay good basketball in Cleveland and that team is going to be FUN to watch since it'll be so young and fast but...

I don't know, he annoys me.

oilypenguin wrote:

Well...

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I think it's funny how annoyed I am. Like, yay good basketball in Cleveland and that team is going to be FUN to watch since it'll be so young and fast but...

I don't know, he annoys me.

I'm hoping Wiggins gets to stay in Cleveland and play with him. It sounds like he may get moved.

Jayhawker wrote:
oilypenguin wrote:

Well...

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I think it's funny how annoyed I am. Like, yay good basketball in Cleveland and that team is going to be FUN to watch since it'll be so young and fast but...

I don't know, he annoys me.

I'm hoping Wiggins gets to stay in Cleveland and play with him. It sounds like he may get moved.

If it's for Kevin Love, Cleveland fans should be really, really happy. Yet another screw-up of a great frontcourt player by the Timberwolves.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:
oilypenguin wrote:

Well...

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I think it's funny how annoyed I am. Like, yay good basketball in Cleveland and that team is going to be FUN to watch since it'll be so young and fast but...

I don't know, he annoys me.

I'm hoping Wiggins gets to stay in Cleveland and play with him. It sounds like he may get moved.

If it's for Kevin Love, Cleveland fans should be really, really happy. Yet another screw-up of a great frontcourt player by the Timberwolves.

Should they? Wiggins as Pippen could be fun. Not sure if it's the right decision, but he looked like a sidekick more to me.

The article they link to is an excellent read. A window into how managed he is. How not normal his life is. I don't doubt that he wanted to go home. But the message is so perfect.

http://deadspin.com/just-undo-it-the-lebron-james-profile-that-nike-killed-1602381429

So, Bron-Bron is a phony public figure whose circus is bigger than him. Hard for me to get too worked up about that in today's world. Very, very few public figures are authentic.

He's not all that different from Will Smith or Tom Cruise or Jay-Z or...anyone else.

What's interesting about the link embedded in the Deadspin article is that Bron-Bron might be unaware of how disconnected he is. Like he's so tied to jock-life and/or turning $ into $$$ that he's not doing any introspective thinking (which, as I type it, sounds hugely offensive; would that thought come to me in talking about Tom Cruise?).

Strike that, there are plenty of public figures who do get on TV, talk about issues and seem to have some understanding of what's real/isn't (see: Matt Damon on teachers; Alec Baldwin on most anything, etc.).

I think it is pretty easy to create a narrative to justify whatever we think about athletes. All you can really judge someone by is their actions.

When he did The Decision, he lost a ton of goodwill from loyal and causal fans alike. But other than that, I just don't think he's done anything to justify the hate he has gotten. And for one totally blown moment, I can give anyone a pass. But I also can't blame Cavs fans for writing him off after that moment, too. I suspect it will take some time for many fans to warm back up to him. But if he continues to be an athlete that puts in the work and plays at an insanely high level, I think all will be good.

So at this point, he's the best player in the game, and he should help the Cavs win games. Does it matter if he is doing it to improve his image, to make more money, to pay back fans, or if he just truly wants to play closer to home? There are plenty of athletes that are worth scorn and would be hard to root for because they are terrible people we would not want in our own homes. I just don't think LeBron is in that category.

Hey.

Let's get one thing clear here.

I never pretended I was being rational about this.

Top_Shelf wrote:

So, Bron-Bron is a phony public figure whose circus is bigger than him. Hard for me to get too worked up about that in today's world. Very, very few public figures are authentic.

This is what I was getting at when I expressed my distaste of the use of the concept of Brand as applies to human beings.

I think my problem is that Lebron comes off as someone that wants to be loved. By everyone. Maybe this is genuine and not related to $$$ maxing endorsements but from the 2nd article DSGamer posted there's nothing genuine about him.

Do you think Magic, Jordan and Bird gave a f*ck about making sure their public image was squeaky clean? No they were people with personalities.

Id have 100% more respect for Lebron if he was just blunt. 4 years ago Cleveland sucked so I made a super team and won 2 titles. Cleveland has a roster I like now so I'm back to win more titles so I can enter the conversation as the best player ever.

Jayhawker wrote:

But I also can't blame Cavs fans for writing him off after that moment, too. I suspect it will take some time for many fans to warm back up to him. But if he continues to be an athlete that puts in the work and plays at an insanely high level, I think all will be good.

I will bet however much money you want that he gets a standing ovation on opening night. It won't take any time at all because he is back on their team now and fans are irrational.

oilypenguin wrote:

And everyone in Cleveland will go back to being a basketball "fan" again and be insufferable.

Come now. There are far more things adding to the insuferability of Cleveland.

LeapingGnome wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

But I also can't blame Cavs fans for writing him off after that moment, too. I suspect it will take some time for many fans to warm back up to him. But if he continues to be an athlete that puts in the work and plays at an insanely high level, I think all will be good.

I will bet however much money you want that he gets a standing ovation on opening night. It won't take any time at all because he is back on their team now and fans are irrational.

Of course he will. And it will be impossible to get tickets again. And everyone in Cleveland will go back to being a basketball "fan" again and be insufferable.

Just driving through Akron a little bit last night, I saw easily 2 dozen welcome back signs. I was driving in Akron for about 5 minutes.

No, for the vast majority of people, all is already forgiven (terms of the contract aren't even announced Wow, that's actually a pretty good contract). That crassness 4 years ago will be a footnote in the career of a hometown boy made good.

I'll probably even soften on this once the season starts because, let's be honest, there is going to be some exciting f-in basketball happening here. It's going to be a lot of fun.

Quiet, you.

oilypenguin wrote:

And everyone in Cleveland will go back to being a basketball "fan" again and be insufferable.

Will? It already happened in my estimate.

My account has been filtered through my personal experience of being a professional athlete, which left me with a very deep admiration for their talents and not much envy for their lives.

This is my take from that article. I can't for a moment think I have any idea who Lebron is, as a person. The author wasn't able to decide that either and came away saddened at the life that is seemingly being led.

oilypenguin wrote:

Quiet, you.

I Kidd from time to time.

Best part of LeBron's return is that it makes this video current again:

*Legion* wrote:

Best part of LeBron's return is that it makes this video current again

That line was all I could think of when I heard the news.