Dragon Age 2 - Catch All

Tamren wrote:

It came as something of a surprise when EA pulled the game off of steam. Since Impulse is a no-go. What would be the least evil method of purchasing the game?

And am I going to have to load up Origin or another dead weight program to patch and get the DLC and everything.

I got it in a sale on D2D for $10.19 a few weeks ago. Origin isn't required to either run the game, or to get DLC. I've bought one DLC item pack for it so far, and got that via the Social.bioware.com site, paid there, and downloaded there.

I want to say ... Haste ... rules. That is all.

Jeff-66 wrote:

I want to say ... Haste ... rules. That is all.

Have you ever played the Baldur's Gate games?

4xis.black wrote:
Jeff-66 wrote:

I want to say ... Haste ... rules. That is all.

Have you ever played the Baldur's Gate games?

Not so much BG1 and BG2, but I did play Icewind Dale, and Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2.

An Icewind Dale style game with the Dragon Age system would be heaven.

Jeff-66 wrote:

Not so much BG1 and BG2, but I did play Icewind Dale, and Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2.

Haste is probably the single best spell in the Baldur's Gate games as well as Icewind Dale. Bioware seems to have a thing for it,

Permanent haste items were probably the most powerful items in NWN1. They let you cast two spells per turn. I was really sad when I found out that they removed that bonus from the sequel.

Thanks to the excellent advice found here, I've finally found a party combination, and character build that I'm reasonably happy with, and that I'm doing pretty well with.

Hawke - spirit heal/primal
Merrill - entropy/spirit/pariah
Fenris - 2h, tevinter fugitive
Aveline - S&S, main tank

For Hawke I have:

* rock armor
* chain lightning/reaction
* heal/greater heal
* heroic aura
* haste
* healing aura
* group heal

I have yet to get back to the tough Blackpowder boss fight (with the lightning mage), but I've been doing very well against encounters that owned me in my first run up to level 9, where I am now again. Stagger --> Chain Reaction is just wicked, as promised.

My tactics setup isn't perfect, but I've got a set that's working pretty well at the moment.

Aw man. Act 2, All That Remains

Spoiler:

Mom! That sucked.

Also in part of that quest there was a "follow blood trail" section, where Hawke just walks around from blood spot to blood spot. Seems like that would be a perfect time to use the Mabari hound you own to actually track something. But I guess because they made the dog part of the Black Emporium, only for new purchasers thing? or whatever, they can't actually use the dog in any interesting ways, since some people might not have it.

Yeah and its funny that because its optional, that quest's great narrative is too easily dismissed.

Incidentally, if you enjoy DA2's questing and tactical combat, why the hell haven't you played BG2 yet?

And Act 3... whew, 3 more years?

4xis.black wrote:

Incidentally, if you enjoy DA2's questing and tactical combat, why the hell haven't you played BG2 yet?

I think I'm a whore for modern technology and graphics for starters, so going back to BG2 would be painful. Plus I'm not a big fan of the D&D RPG system, especially the spellcasting rules. I prefer mana pools.

Jeff-66 wrote:

I want to say ... Haste ... rules. That is all.

I honestly just came in here to make this exact same statement.

Jeff-66 wrote:
4xis.black wrote:

Incidentally, if you enjoy DA2's questing and tactical combat, why the hell haven't you played BG2 yet?

I think I'm a whore for modern technology and graphics for starters, so going back to BG2 would be painful. Plus I'm not a big fan of the D&D RPG system, especially the spellcasting rules. I prefer mana pools.

Get a resolution patcher and the hand-crafted backgrounds in the infinity engine games will still look quite good.

How are people declaring the Acts?

I could see Act I being "leaving Lothering, getting into Kirkwall", but I include the one year jump and the set of quests that follow that as part of Act I. Hawke the up-and-comer.

Act 2 is the Deep Roads. It may be a short Act, but I think that the Varric Interrogation sections are probably the best way to break down the Acts. His cut-scene sure implies that this was an important section, even if it was fairly brief (and thank god for that - after Origins I was dreading a never-ending slog through the Deep Roads). Hawke the adventurer.

Act 3, to me, would be after getting back from the Deep Roads (and is where I am at now). Hawke the respected.

I would guess we have an Act 4, where Hawke becomes "Hawke The Champion", but where are your Act lines, for people who have finished?

I think a lot would call 'getting into Kirkwall' a prelude.

Dragon Age 2 quests. The wiki has things broken into 3 acts, that is what I refer to when talking about acts.

In my mind....

Act I Is where you are struggling to raise money to get yourself out of Gamlin's house, and finishes when you emerge from the Deep Roads, cash in hand.

Act II You've moved into your own home, made a bit of a name for yourself as a nouveau-riche, and finishes when you batter the Arishok and are acclaimed Champion.

Act III You're the 'Champion of Kirkwall', but have no real political power, and attempt to prevent the final struggle between the mages and the Templars.

Correct, the 2 "3 years later" gaps are what separate the 3 acts.

So I just found out a 'sovereign' is a gold piece. I'm done with all the quests in Act 1 before Deep Roads, and only have 25 gold, does that mean ...

Spoiler:

... the only way to pay Bertrand is to accept the dwarf's offer to buy in? ('Friends in Low Places' quest). I don't see any other way to make another 25 g.

Yep. There's more than that around the place. I see you went crazy around the supermarket section.

Yeah I turned in my 50 and had another 50 by the time I was ready to leave or so. As usual drop/found items are almost always better than the store.

Maybe he found the Secret Store. Thudpucker's Fist is a pretty potent weapon, easily comparable to Desdemona's Blade.

And no, that's not a spoiler - those are available the moment you set foot in Kirkwall.

I always shop in my RPG's, can't help myself. And stele, for me the drops were most definitely not better than store items, especially Black Emporium stuff.

So, is the consensus that I need to go ahead and take the dwarf's buy in? I marvel that there is 100G to be had in Act 1.

Btw, as an aside, I never did beat Blackpowder Promises on Hard, probably had 15 tries (between the two plays through Act 1), and even tried the 'hold in the corridor' method. Nothing I did worked. That mage would cast and just evaporate the entire party with one spell. I set that fight down to Normal difficulty and beat it first try. I understand now about armor, runes, and resistances, but never found any pattern or runes for sale that offered lightning protection.

Oh yeah the Black Emporium stuff is nice, better than most other stores, but still the only things I bought from there were some of the amulet or rings that were like +1 stats or +1% xp. I didn't see any crazy weapons that were much better than ones I had. Maybe it was just the odd times I have checked that shop throughout the acts.

Strange. I found the Lightning Rune off to the side in one of the side missions. You need that Rune for the Deep Roads.

Well, "need" is a relative term. I didn't need it, after all. I just had to attack with extreme force so that nothing survives the first wave of combos!

Jeff-66:

If you're still interested in giving that fight the ol' college try (should probably have a save close to it or have it available), you can set Merrill to Horror or Crushing Prison the Mage as soon as she sees it (set in Tactics: Nearest Mage - Horror as a priority item). That's how I got through that part.

If you don't have the Lightning Rune by now, you've already missed it and since it's on a side quest map, there's no way to go back for it later on.

Stele:

Desdemona's Blade is a sick, sick pickup if you optimize Warrior Hawke with +nature damage. As a Mage, there's nothing in Act 1 that will outperform the Staff of Parthalan or Apostate's Courage. I think I kept the SoP until well into Act 2.

I guess I just missed the boat on the lightning rune. Maybe it was in a locked chest? I didn't have a rogue with me most of the time thru act 1. Btw, I did have Merrill set to Horror mages, but may not have had the priority high enough.

Now that I'm the deep roads, i'm starting to get much better drops, stuff that's much better than store items.

Aveline is shaping up into a true tank now. She is holding (and grabbing) aggro pretty nicely, taking loads of damage, and has 100% fire resistance now (when Elem.Aegis is on).

Spoiler:

We took down the first dragon encounter in the deep roads (on the way to finding Sandal, which was a hilarious reveal, btw), and we didn't have too much trouble with it. Aveline shrugged off his fire to the face, and maintained aggro.

Healer Hawke now has Revival too. Oh and since I was forced to take Varric with me, I'm liking having him more than Merrill I think. He can open level 2 chests, and has some crazy skills now.

Varric is awesome on two legs. It's not a burden at all to have him around. Winter's Blast + Punishing Lance is one of the most deadly distance combos in the game, and his usual attack with Bianca does a fair amount of damage by itself.

Took down a High Dragon last night.

I just beat the game as an Assassin Rouge and completed every side quest I could find. I see the faults that people had with it but overall I enjoyed it much better then the first game (which I had to push my self to finish after leaving it for months). My main gripes were the spawning enemies and asset re-use but other then that I liked everything better. I loved the way how the story flowed along making it feel more natural. Combat for the most part kicked ass. Also its crazy to think how scenes could have varied (or not happened at all) had I handled earlier situations differently. I can't wait for the 3rd installment!

Edit:

Stele wrote:

Took down a High Dragon last night. :cool:

After a bunch of failed attempts I avoided that quest for along time but came back later with better equipment and more powerful spells and got my self some dragon hide.