LOTRO: Free-to-Play

Edit - Whoops. I see the Adventurer's Pack is $20 on top of the $20 for the Mirkwood expansion.

I don't think that the store will open until Free To Play starts up.

Don't forget about player housing for a poor man's shared stash.

Also, the new wardrobe system will allow you to share armor/clothing for the cosmetic system across all of your toons.

IIRC, you can apply dyes to you outfit pieces while they're in the vault, and from that point on be able to take it out with any color you've previously applied to it. What you take out is character bound (putting the item in doesn't remove it from your inventory, just makes an entry in your wardrobe vault for it), and it's only for cosmetic use. So if you put in some kick-ass armor because you like the look of it, you have permanent access to it for cosmetic use (there's an option to remove entries too) without needing to hold on to the actual armor.

Stengah wrote:

IIRC, you can apply dyes to you outfit pieces while they're in the vault, and from that point on be able to take it out with any color you've previously applied to it. What you take out is character bound (putting the item in doesn't remove it from your inventory, just makes an entry in your wardrobe vault for it), and it's only for cosmetic use. So if you put in some kick-ass armor because you like the look of it, you have permanent access to it for cosmetic use (there's an option to remove entries too) without needing to hold on to the actual armor.

Ah...

Wha?

LobsterMobster wrote:
Stengah wrote:

IIRC, you can apply dyes to you outfit pieces while they're in the vault, and from that point on be able to take it out with any color you've previously applied to it. What you take out is character bound (putting the item in doesn't remove it from your inventory, just makes an entry in your wardrobe vault for it), and it's only for cosmetic use. So if you put in some kick-ass armor because you like the look of it, you have permanent access to it for cosmetic use (there's an option to remove entries too) without needing to hold on to the actual armor.

Ah...

Wha?

There's a cosmetic-only vault in the Beta, that's separate from your item or shared vault.. You put armor/clothes that you want to use for cosmetic purposes in to it. You can apply dyes directly to the items without having to take them out of the vault. When you decide you want to use them for your actual wardrobe, you can select from any color you've applied dye to it. Say you've got a neat looking shirt, so you add it to your cosmetic vault. You don't actually move the shirt from your inventory to the vault; you create an entry in your vault for the cosmetic part of the shirt (no armor value/stat buffs come with it). If you've got several dyes in your inventory, you can apply them to the shirt while it's in the vault (previously you had to take an item out of your vault to apply dyes to it). Now when you go to take the shirt out, you can choose its color from any dye that's been applied to it. Taking it out doesn't delete the wardrobe entry from the vault, it just creates a cosmetic-only version of the shirt (no stats), that I'm pretty sure is character bound (otherwise the cosmetic market would be flooded).

Oooooh. That's neat. I understand now. Thanks for the clarification.

Keep in mind the "IIRC" from the first post, I haven't played the beta in a few weeks, so I'm not 100% sure that what I wrote is correct. Maybe 90%.

Okay, so I just checked, and it doesn't make a bound entry in your inventory, you just pick which color you want, and drag it directly to your outfit panel. If you drag it to your inventory, it warns you that you'll remove it and all color variants.

Has anyone heard a definitive answer on whether they're going to take anything out of the game (cosmetic items, for instance) just so they can sell them in the cash shop? I've heard that if you keep paying your subscription fee you get 500 Turbine points every month, which makes me think they've cut about 500 points/month out of the base content.

I am doing F2P DDO and paying for LOTRO.

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I wish trubine point where useable for both games but not sure if I will pay or not for these games once f2p and instead just buy points for stuff as needed.

LobsterMobster wrote:

Has anyone heard a definitive answer on whether they're going to take anything out of the game (cosmetic items, for instance) just so they can sell them in the cash shop? I've heard that if you keep paying your subscription fee you get 500 Turbine points every month, which makes me think they've cut about 500 points/month out of the base content.

The definitive answer is that people who remain at the VIP level (still paying a subscription), will lose nothing, but gain 500 points a month to spend on stuff they don't need. They aren't removing anything, but are adding things to the store that were never available before though, like special potions, stat buffs, possibly fancy new cosmetic/house items, etc. They're also adding the ability to buy the horse-riding skill, as well as mounts. If you don't buy them through the store, you can still get them, but you have to wait until you get the riding skill quests in-game, which you don't get for awhile, and can take awhile to do. If you buy it through the store, you can be riding a full speed mount at level 1 instead of waiting until level 35.
I'm not sure if they're going to implement a buddy pass system like DDO has, where someone can buy a time-limited access pass to quest lines/areas, but I think they will, since they've said that some of the areas will not be available to the base & premium level players unless they've A) bought the game/expansion that would allow access to them or B) unlock them through the store. An example being if I just came in at the base F2P level (had not bought points for the store, the game itself, or had a subscription at some point before it went F2P) I won't have access to all areas. I think they've said that just Ered Liun, the Shire, and Bree-land will be open to the base level. I'm not sure if that means that people can't physically move to the other areas, or if they just won't be able to do quests in them. They have said that if someone does all the deeds that have point rewards, they'll be able to unlock the next set of quest areas.

Actually, I think all of the pre Moria areas of the game will be available to any F2P player, but only the starting zones will be populated with quest beyond the book quest, so you could conceivably grind your way to level 50 by just killing mobs and doing the book quest.

If you wanted to have quest to do along the way I believe a F2P player could purchase quest packs by zone, for example they could buy all of the North Downs quest but skip Forschell if they so chose.

For existing subscribers, whatever you have already purchased remains with your account even if you stop subscribing. So, if you have a Moria and Mirkwood, you will keep full access to those zones if you stop subscribing.

Thank you, Stengah and Badferret. You are both gentlemen and scholars.

Mmm. I used to be a founder with a lifetime subscription, so I am guessing the following lifetime subscription applies to my account:

# I have a lifetime subscription to LOTRO. What will Free-to-Play mean for me?

As a lifetime subscriber to LOTRO, you will keep all of your membership privileges and are automatically upgraded to VIP status. You will receive 500 Free Turbine Points every month like the other VIPs, but you do not have to pay a monthly fee since you are a lifetime member. All you have to do is keep playing the game and visit the LOTRO Store to spend your free points and enjoy the wealth of new a la carte items and options to enhance your game experience.

# I am a LOTRO Founder. What will Free-to-Play mean for me?

As a LOTRO Founder, you automatically become a VIP and will keep all of your membership privileges as long as you pay your monthly fee. You will automatically receive 500 Free Turbine Points every month like the other VIPs, and you can spend the Turbine Points at your leisure in the LOTRO Store to enhance your game experience and keep playing the way you want.

Now, if I my wife and I could just find the time to play it!

I'm hearing rumors that you can buy upgrades for your traits in the item store. Is that true? Grinding virtues is one of the few things I hate about LOTRO.

jdzappa wrote:

I'm hearing rumors that you can buy upgrades for your traits in the item store. Is that true? Grinding virtues is one of the few things I hate about LOTRO.

You can buy those in the store, with some limitations. You can also buy tomes that give temporary double credit for deeds, cutting your grinding time in half.

Kilaban wrote:
jdzappa wrote:

I'm hearing rumors that you can buy upgrades for your traits in the item store. Is that true? Grinding virtues is one of the few things I hate about LOTRO.

You can buy those in the store, with some limitations. You can also buy tomes that give temporary double credit for deeds, cutting your grinding time in half.

Honestly, out of all the things being added to the store this was the one I was the most excited about. Grinding deeds is POOPY.

I heard they released the list of new servers they are adding for FTP. Are there any thoughts on starting a GWJ group on one of the new servers? I am happy on Landroval, especially since I finally past level 30 on my main, but I would want to join the GWJ crowd if they moved to one of them. (or off a cliff, or wherever. I, for one, welcome our new GWJ overlords)

Forum post

Current Subscribers and returning players will be able to access LOTRO Free-to-Play on the North American servers starting September 8th and Head Start players will be the first to play on our newest servers! The following worlds will be available starting September 8, 2010:
Riddermark
Crickhollow
Dwarrowdelf
Imladris
To help players organize their friends and Kinmates, the official server forums for these worlds are now available.

I am very committed to Landroval, and don't see myself moving.

nihilo wrote:

I am very committed to Landroval, and don't see myself moving.

Yeah, I don't think there is any reason for us to move. I think we are all pretty happy with Landroval, I can't imagine a reason why I would want to move.

nihilo wrote:

I am very committed to Landroval, and don't see myself moving.

Ditto. And I don't play enough to support more alts.

Just a note, I'm pretty sure regular mounts will now be available at level 20, rather than 35. There may be a beginner mount available earlier that's slower, but according to the release notes, if I read them correctly, you can't get a regular mount at level 1.

They're still the same price though, right? I know none of my characters had 4 gold at level 20. I guess you could always buy one with REAL money...

LobsterMobster wrote:

They're still the same price though, right? I know none of my characters had 4 gold at level 20. I guess you could always buy one with REAL money...

Most of my characters had to take a loan out to get their horses, even at 35.

You can take out loans?

Can you take out a loan and then flee that town and never come back like in Daggerfall?

Robear wrote:

Just a note, I'm pretty sure regular mounts will now be available at level 20, rather than 35.

There's a slow mount that you buy for a couple/few hundred silver at level 20. Or at least that's the way it was a week or two ago when I signed up.

LobsterMobster wrote:

You can take out loans?

Can you take out a loan and then flee that town and never come back like in Daggerfall? :D

I take loans out from my other characters. It's hard to skip town on myself.

The mounts available now at lower level can be purchased at the shop, otherwise I think the regular in game gold prices and maybe even level restrictions apply.

The F2P head start went up last night for those who are eligible (subscribers and beta testers I think).

Robear wrote:

Just a note, I'm pretty sure regular mounts will now be available at level 20, rather than 35. There may be a beginner mount available earlier that's slower, but according to the release notes, if I read them correctly, you can't get a regular mount at level 1.

As a player from the start, can I just say 'Boooooooooooooooooo' at this point

I shall continue to sit on my white horse, but will sniff even more contemptuously when a level 20 trundles past on some broken down nag, that is only delaying its trip to the cargo delivery bay of the nearest butchers.

I dunno, I saw a mount in the Lotro Store for level 5 characters. I assume that's the "beginner" mount, but it was not clear. +62% movement speed.

I'm not impressed with the ability to buy *stats*...