Shogun: Total War 2 Catch All thread

oMonarca wrote:

Can you run it inside a borderless window?

(the load times are really putting me off)

I didn't look for that option but don't remember seeing it.

you can alt+tab out while waiting....

Any interest in starting a multiplayer game? I haven't played in a long time and got the itch to install it.

I'm curious to see about the GWJ clan getting active. I have no idea how the clan stuff works but it looks cool.

Well this was awesome of them. Apparently everyone gets the new stuff for multiplayer so they don't split the community, even if you don't buy the new standalone expansion (already preordered it because it's gonna be full of awesome).

Man I really have to get back into this. I never did finish my campaign as the Hattori. Now to make room in the pile...

BlackSabre wrote:

Man I really have to get back into this. I never did finish my campaign as the Hattori. Now to make room in the pile...

I wiped out your Hattori. What are you going to do about it?

ZaneRockfist wrote:
BlackSabre wrote:

Man I really have to get back into this. I never did finish my campaign as the Hattori. Now to make room in the pile...

I wiped out your Hattori. What are you going to do about it?

All of them? Even the sneaky ninjas hiding behind your generals?

BlackSabre wrote:

All of them? Even the sneaky ninjas hiding behind your generals? :D

Sir, let the map speak for itself..

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I have only played one game of it so far, might get back into it soon. And I got to the point with the Chosokabe where I had everything to the left and including Kyoto and a crap load of trade ships on all of the ports and I decided it was just a matter of micromanaging my time so I quit. I did a few full world conquest games in Medieval 2 and Empire and while it is fun for a bit it hits the point of inevitable conclusion where it is really just rolling guys with massive stacks.

ZaneRockfist wrote:
BlackSabre wrote:

All of them? Even the sneaky ninjas hiding behind your generals? :D

Sir, let the map speak for itself..

:D

You mean you can't see the ninjas? Excellent.

Ha! pcgamer.com has an interview up where Creative Assembly says that the average Shogun 2 player plays 100 hours. I'm not surprised as I've played more than 100.

I'm still at around 17. But I was fairly late into it and haven't really had the time to dedicate to this. I want to play it more, it's just got other things above it in the pile.

I might have a problem....if you add up the time of Shogun2(495), Napoleon(381), and Empire (483)...plus expansions, I have played a total of 1359 hours. I still enjoy playing it too....

So anyone out there want to try some co-op campaigning? I bought Shogun 2 ages ago but never had an opportunity to try it until this week. While I know how to campaign, I'm too afraid to try Avatar Conquest without some encouragement. I'm afraid at this point the level of awesomeness of folks who will laugh at me feebly trying to hit the pause button every 5-10 seconds during battle, attacking their uber-crucible'd stacks with newb units and knowing nothing of the various stat bonuses available (to them, not me). Maybe I should volunteer for some drop-in battles first? And unintentionally give someone a campaign victory that they shouldn't earn.

Total War bio: I've played Rome for hundreds and hundreds of hours over the years, but starting with Medieval 2 the system got too bloated and buggy for my tastes. Shogun 2 feels like an amazing culling of needless complexity, and a fascinating genesis of some ideas of how the series should have began. I've already registered GWJ as my clan on multiplayer, but haven't tried that at all.

tuffalobuffalo, thanks for pointing out a great series of interviews I would have otherwise missed, but the content leaves a bit to be desired on two points: how will armies from the base game possibly stand up against Fall-era technology, and in discussing potential eras, when will someone at CA finally use the term "Total War: Warring States", even in jest?

Zellbrige, 1300 or 1400 hours means nothing as a number. It's the mental problem of a single death being more emotionally crippling than the millions who died each year due to unfortunate cause X. When I convert that number to a real measurement however...aye caramba! That's two months of Total War!

Keithustus wrote:

So anyone out there want to try some co-op campaigning? I bought Shogun 2 ages ago but never had an opportunity to try it until this week. While I know how to campaign, I'm too afraid to try Avatar Conquest without some encouragement. I'm afraid at this point the level of awesomeness of folks who will laugh at me feebly trying to hit the pause button every 5-10 seconds during battle, attacking their uber-crucible'd stacks with newb units and knowing nothing of the various stat bonuses available (to them, not me). Maybe I should volunteer for some drop-in battles first? And unintentionally give someone a campaign victory that they shouldn't earn.

Total War bio: I've played Rome for hundreds and hundreds of hours over the years, but starting with Medieval 2 the system got too bloated and buggy for my tastes. Shogun 2 feels like an amazing culling of needless complexity, and a fascinating genesis of some ideas of how the series should have began. I've already registered GWJ as my clan on multiplayer, but haven't tried that at all.

tuffalobuffalo, thanks for pointing out a great series of interviews I would have otherwise missed, but the content leaves a bit to be desired on two points: how will armies from the base game possibly stand up against Fall-era technology, and in discussing potential eras, when will someone at CA finally use the term "Total War: Warring States", even in jest?

Zellbrige, 1300 or 1400 hours means nothing as a number. It's the mental problem of a single death being more emotionally crippling than the millions who died each year due to unfortunate cause X. When I convert that number to a real measurement however...aye caramba! That's two months of Total War!

I just don't have the time to devote to a coop campaign. I still need to finish up rise of the samurai before the fall of the samurai comes out. Maybe when the new content comes out, I'll start devoting more time to the game and be up for some coop. It is fun if you can schedule it right.

I don't know how they're going to balance the new content. It would seem that gatling gun versus samurai would be no contest. I'm sure they've tried to figure out some way of dealing with it. I imagine it's a size of army thing. Also, things like gatling guns will probably have long reload times, so you'll have to time everything correctly.

They could have taken it a step further and made Shogun 2: Total War - Rise of the Giant Robots.

ZellbrigeN26 wrote:

I might have a problem....if you add up the time of Shogun2(495), Napoleon(381), and Empire (483)...plus expansions, I have played a total of 1359 hours. I still enjoy playing it too....

I can't judge you for loving Shogun 2 (I'm at about 200 hours though I'd estimate that at least 15-20 hours of that was AFK). I will judge you for putting nearly 500 hours into Empire though.

Ok, in all seriousness, the average american watches something like 20 hours of TV a week, which translates into well over a thousand hours a year. Personally, I find the Total War games far more stimulating and challenging than watching the Kardashians. In fact, these games are probably the most difficult I've ever played in terms of being mentally challenge. Starcraft 2 pales in comparison from a pure "strategy" perspective, though RTSes require a lot more physical dexterity.

The PC Gamer review of Fall of the Samurai is up. The reviewer was pretty positive about the expansion. Can't wait to play it, but I'm afraid I won't have enough time set aside by the time it releases next week. It's odd that it releases on a Friday.

Thanks for the link. But that doesn't seem like a review, at least the first two pages. I've been following Fall publicity for months, and it's hard to distinguish that review from CA's marketing material. I'm definitely going to pick it up...but not so long as its $40. How often do standalone expansions get Steam sale love?

Keithustus wrote:

Thanks for the link. But that doesn't seem like a review, at least the first two pages. I've been following Fall publicity for months, and it's hard to distinguish that review from CA's marketing material. I'm definitely going to pick it up...but not so long as its $40. How often do standalone expansions get Steam sale love?

Shogun 2 and DLC always gets love during the huge sales. It's usually featured on one of the days. Unfortunately, I think the next one won't be until Independence day or so. It's too bad that the game is 40 bucks, but I think they priced it that way because it is stand alone. The amount of content is probably on par with a $50 game I'm guessing, but it still is just more Shogun 2.

If you don't want to pay that much, it will surely go on sale for 50% off by the end of the year.

Edit: It's only 30 bucks, actually. I just checked.

Cool on the price cut. They must have been concerned that nobody was prepaying at $40?

As much as I love helping the industry, I've got too much going on to let me play it now, so I'll keep it on my wishlist and watch for the Steam sales. Independence Day should be a more manageable time.

I'm hoping to get back and play another campaign this week since I finished up Trine last week.

Are there any cool mods for the base game out there?

Also, I don't think I am as enthralledin this one as I was with Rome, Med2, or Empire. I think it is a setting and scope thing, the other ones felt so much more epic. I really hope they go back to Rome next

No one playing this? The expansion was released a day early. Downloading now!

Dezlen wrote:

No one playing this? The expansion was released a day early. Downloading now!

I'm downloading it now. I'll probably try it a bit tonight, but I still need to try and finish the ME3 single player. Good to see they integrated the files with Shogun 2. Since it is a standalone, I was afraid they would have a separate game and redundant files to download. After it's done downloading, I'm going to move the whole thing to an SSD to decrease those damn load times.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Dezlen wrote:

No one playing this? The expansion was released a day early. Downloading now!

I'm downloading it now. I'll probably try it a bit tonight, but I still need to try and finish the ME3 single player. Good to see they integrated the files with Shogun 2. Since it is a standalone, I was afraid they would have a separate game and redundant files to download. After it's done downloading, I'm going to move the whole thing to an SSD to decrease those damn load times.

Honestly the ridiculous load times are part of why I haven't went back to it yet. They are just so freaking long.

Kamakazi010654 wrote:

I'm hoping to get back and play another campaign this week since I finished up Trine last week.

Are there any cool mods for the base game out there?

Also, I don't think I am as enthralledin this one as I was with Rome, Med2, or Empire. I think it is a setting and scope thing, the other ones felt so much more epic. I really hope they go back to Rome next

As far as I know, they haven't released the tools for Shogun 2. They did release the tools for Empire recently. Any mods you get for Shogun 2 will be fairly simple. There was an article about how they might want to integrate Steamworks into the game. That would be cool.

Kamakazi010654 wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Dezlen wrote:

No one playing this? The expansion was released a day early. Downloading now!

I'm downloading it now. I'll probably try it a bit tonight, but I still need to try and finish the ME3 single player. Good to see they integrated the files with Shogun 2. Since it is a standalone, I was afraid they would have a separate game and redundant files to download. After it's done downloading, I'm going to move the whole thing to an SSD to decrease those damn load times.

Honestly the ridiculous load times are part of why I haven't went back to it yet. They are just so freaking long.

It was never too bad on my system, but it still was a bit annoying. I know a lot of others had it way worse than me.

Edit: The problem with moving it to an SSD is that the game is over 20 GB. That's a lot of space I have to dedicate. I'm going to do it, though, because I'll put in a decent amount of time into this expansion and Rise of the Samurai, which I still have to finish. If any game can benefit from it, it's definitely this one.

Yeah massive patch which improves ai turn speeds and load times. Wonderful and about time.

40v40 unit battles available via ‘control large armies’ option in Custom Battles and Multiplayer
Numerous Battle and Campaign AI improvements (see Battle and Campaign sections below)
Greatly reduced save-game file sizes and full Steam Cloud support
Battlefield load time improvement (approximately 30% dependent on machine spec)
Greatly reduced AI turn-time
22 brand new Land, Naval and Siege battle-maps

http://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=34330

onboard after the 7.50 steam sale. That's one thing I adore about Steam: you know if you wait long enough you'll get great games that have had time to mature for sweet prices. CAn't wait to play.

Jow wrote:

onboard after the 7.50 steam sale. That's one thing I adore about Steam: you know if you wait long enough you'll get great games that have had time to mature for sweet prices. CAn't wait to play.

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