Shogun: Total War 2 Catch All thread

I'm contemplating getting this... is it worth it to get it now, or wait for a steam sale with all the goodies released in one pack?

BlackSabre wrote:

I'm contemplating getting this... is it worth it to get it now, or wait for a steam sale with all the goodies released in one pack?

The new campaign will be released soon for 10 dollars. I imagine they will have a decent sale on the main game when that is released. As far as DLC that is available right now. I believe there have been 2 packs of which I bought one. The ikko ikki pack has some rad units.

And yes, it is worth buying.

Well I downloaded the demo last night and really enjoyed it. I started the tutorial and felt like the only reason why I won the battles was because I had more numbers, rather than being any decent.

What are there previous sales like? Do they usually release the game and all dlc together in one pack later on for a decent price?

I can get the limited edition from ozgameshop.com for $28.99. Which also activates on steam too.

BlackSabre wrote:

Well I downloaded the demo last night and really enjoyed it. I started the tutorial and felt like the only reason why I won the battles was because I had more numbers, rather than being any decent.

What are there previous sales like? Do they usually release the game and all dlc together in one pack later on for a decent price?

I can get the limited edition from ozgameshop.com for $28.99. Which also activates on steam too.

Well, I managed to preorder it on sale for $40. I don't think I've seen it less than $30 since then actually. I know it was on sale for a little bit during the Steam summer sale. It might go cheaper than 30 when they release that DLC, but it's hard to say. It looks like the couple things you'd get with that limited edition boxed copy might be fairly useful. It's a Steamworks game, so you can just enter the code.

Well I just hit the purchase button. Now I have to wait 2 weeks for my limited edition to arrive then activate it on steam.

How are the DLC? Worth it straight away or should I wait for a sale? Can't wait to set my Ninja upon those other clans.

How is the mp in this? Populated? Exploit-driven?

BlackSabre wrote:

Well I just hit the purchase button. Now I have to wait 2 weeks for my limited edition to arrive then activate it on steam.

How are the DLC? Worth it straight away or should I wait for a sale? Can't wait to set my Ninja upon those other clans.

I'd probably play through the campaign a couple of times then pick up the DLC if you're really hooked on the game.

Ikko Ikki is basically a faction pack. Gameplay is slightly different with them because they have a different religion and unit selection, but it's nothing too dramatic. Probably best to start with a couple of the more traditional clans at first.

The other DLC has one specialized unit for each faction. I haven't played it yet, but there are plenty of units to get used to in the base game anyway. Buying it later will give you some new toys to play with.

I can't speak for how useful these are for multiplayer though.

Awesome, thanks for that. Also, I've seen on the steam forum that a bunch of people are having problems with not being able to get the game to even load. Is this common? Anything I need to look out for?

Also, I couldn't enable Anti Aliasing in the demo... is this just a demo lockout or do I need to do something in order to enable Anti Aliasing?

BlackSabre wrote:

Awesome, thanks for that. Also, I've seen on the steam forum that a bunch of people are having problems with not being able to get the game to even load. Is this common? Anything I need to look out for?

Also, I couldn't enable Anti Aliasing in the demo... is this just a demo lockout or do I need to do something in order to enable Anti Aliasing?

I don't know anything about the game not loading. You can enable anti aliasing now IIRC after the DX11 patch. However, if you do so, you will probably have to turn down the other settings (unless you are running 2 580s or something). The game can kill systems if you want it to do so.

Ah ok, so maybe the demo just doesn't have it configurable.

I've got a 6950 so I'm hoping that should be juicy enough for it. Runs Battlefield Bad Company 2 with no troubles.

Woot! My copy arrived today. Activated on steam and downloading as we speak. Yes, I could probably wait till I get home and just install using the DVD's but this way it's already done by the time I get home.

YAY!

So I've had a good few hours to play it now and it's a fantastic game. I've started playing the Hatori and running around sabotaging and assassinating with my Ninja. So much to learn too.

So my General suddenly gets a trait which makes him a ladies man and a negative to his walking distance on the campaign map... is this something to be concerned with? I figure this is because he wasn't fighting any battles for me for a few turns.

Yeah, the generals tend to get quite lazy and self-indulgent if they just sit around in the cities all the time.

Is it because he was in a city? If he's in the field and not fighting, is he still going to get those traits?

Also, are they really that bad? -1% to campaign movement doesn't seem like it's too bad.

BlackSabre wrote:

Is it because he was in a city? If he's in the field and not fighting, is he still going to get those traits?

Also, are they really that bad? -1% to campaign movement doesn't seem like it's too bad.

it not....but some are bad... igot one once that made my heir a coward....he sat in the capital....made his troops rout sooner

BlackSabre wrote:

Well I just hit the purchase button. Now I have to wait 2 weeks for my limited edition to arrive then activate it on steam.

How are the DLC? Worth it straight away or should I wait for a sale? Can't wait to set my Ninja upon those other clans.

Definitely play as a regular faction before getting the Ikko Ikki. They're relatively weak militarily except for their warrior monks. However, they can cause revolts in nearby provinces and capture them without having to invade. But to do well you'll also need to learn all the ins and outs of building a good economy and maintaining diplomacy (both much harder than they sound).

My suggestion would be to start as one of the following clans:

Shimazu
Chosokabe
Date

So it's September... when is the new Rise of the Samurai DLC coming out?

BlackSabre wrote:

So it's September... when is the new Rise of the Samurai DLC coming out?

I don't know, but I'm excited.

They announced the release date as the 27th

Oh cool. Just seemed odd that it's on steam, but with no release date mentioned.

jdzappa wrote:
BlackSabre wrote:

Well I just hit the purchase button. Now I have to wait 2 weeks for my limited edition to arrive then activate it on steam.

How are the DLC? Worth it straight away or should I wait for a sale? Can't wait to set my Ninja upon those other clans.

Definitely play as a regular faction before getting the Ikko Ikki. They're relatively weak militarily except for their warrior monks. However, they can cause revolts in nearby provinces and capture them without having to invade. But to do well you'll also need to learn all the ins and outs of building a good economy and maintaining diplomacy (both much harder than they sound).

My suggestion would be to start as one of the following clans:

Shimazu
Chosokabe
Date

Shimazu, Shimazu, Shimazu. Should always be the first campaign you should play.

Funnily enough, I started with the Hatori. No idea how far I'm in... think I have another 45 year to complete it. Have 5 or so trading boats sitting in ports and mustering up some more to remove the other people from the occupied trading posts.

I must say, I'm loving my Ninja. They're awesome and just deadly at taking out anything before my army gets there. Currently fighting the Chosokabe and some other clan at the moment. My Daimyo is fighting in the East and I've got a general and his army of mostly Yari and Bow Ashigaru with a few Katana Samurai fighting the Chosakabe to the west. I want their little four province Island. I figure for the 40 provinces that I need I'm best off taking over the west and just slowing pushing the east side, being careful once I hit 16 provinces for the whole Realm divide thing to occur.

Trying to cut back spending too as I want to save as much money as possible before then.

Budo wrote:

Shimazu, Shimazu, Shimazu. Should always be the first campaign you should play.

So what's so good about Shimazu anyway?

The $10 DLC is out (Rise of the Samurai). I bought it and will probably have a go at it tonight.

A fairly big patch dropped today. Apparently it's supposed to get the game ready for the DLC, but it also adds a lot of content for the regular game. The big claim to fame are new (as in additional) castle designs for the vanilla campaign map.

1.8GB patch. Any patch notes?

BlackSabre wrote:

1.8GB patch. Any patch notes?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...

There are too many to quote.

Wow. Lot of changes. Not sure what half of them really are as I only play singleplayer. But looks good at least.

Okay. I never tried eyefinity before now with this game because I knew it would kill my system. However, I decided to fire it up to see what happened. I kept basically everything maxed except turning off SSAO, tesselation, and turned AA to MLAAx1. At that setting, I get 60-100+ fps no problem at 1920x1080. At any rate, it averages well over 60. You still get pretty bad dips if you zoom in. So, I kept all those settings and bumped the resolution to 6040x1080 just to see what happened. Surprisingly it was "playable." Granted, it was running at about 20fps. I could move the camera around and take screenshots no problem. So here they are. It is really cool. If I set the settings to medium, I got about 40fps average. Setting it to low put me at at least 60fps average. It looks pretty bad on low, so I'll just play it at 1920x1080 in the future and enjoy the eyecandy and good framerate.

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There are a few more on my steam profile.

Great pics tuffalobuffalo. Total War sure has always been good at being pretty.

I've picked up the new expansion, and was wondering if anyone else here was looking to play some co-op campaign anytime soon?

I'll probably be watching baseball until late in the evening (Dang rain delay in New York! My whole day taken by baseball! Haha), but I'd like to give it a try. I never really did get to try co-op before, and I figured with the new expansion, people might have gotten back in to the swing of things with the game and more would be up for trying it out.