Red Dead Redemption Catch-all

Grenn wrote:

Tell me, O Literature majors and People Smarter than me, is it ironic that in a videogame, I will bust my ass collecting bounties and herding cattle only to waste all my money busting out on Texas Hold 'Em? Or is that just art imitating life?

It represents Man's Inhumanity to Man, and the Loss of Identity in the Post-Modern World. Your ass represents your soul, busted and exchanged for useless material money, then gambled away as you try to fill the void post-War ennui has left. The patriarchy makes you do this.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:
Grenn wrote:

Tell me, O Literature majors and People Smarter than me, is it ironic that in a videogame, I will bust my ass collecting bounties and herding cattle only to waste all my money busting out on Texas Hold 'Em? Or is that just art imitating life?

It represents Man's Inhumanity to Man, and the Loss of Identity in the Post-Modern World. Your ass represents your soul, busted and exchanged for useless material money, then gambled away as you try to fill the void post-War ennui has left. The patriarchy makes you do this.

Deep down, I knew I wasn't to blame.

Grenn wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:
Grenn wrote:

Tell me, O Literature majors and People Smarter than me, is it ironic that in a videogame, I will bust my ass collecting bounties and herding cattle only to waste all my money busting out on Texas Hold 'Em? Or is that just art imitating life?

It represents Man's Inhumanity to Man, and the Loss of Identity in the Post-Modern World. Your ass represents your soul, busted and exchanged for useless material money, then gambled away as you try to fill the void post-War ennui has left. The patriarchy makes you do this.

Deep down, I knew I wasn't to blame.

You partially are, because you won't embrace your feminine side. Granted, the patriarchy doesn't want you to, but still. Coward.

It would only be ironic if you were playing poker against cattle or the criminals you had caught.

Well, looks like I've hit a game-stopping bug in RDR on the 360. I keep hitting a bug where I fall through the world & have to exit the game. It was happening at one particular spot on the map that I learned to avoid, but now it's happening at a spot that I have to go through to advance the story. Too bad--I just got to Mexico & was really enjoying the game, but I have no idea how I'll ever get past it now.

Anyone playing the Liars and Cheats add-on? The Stronghold MP mode is actually quite entertaining.

Going to get back into this one. Don't know what distracted me last time. I loved every minute that I did play.

So I gave up waiting for a PC version and got it for the 360. I am really enjoying this game mainly because of the setting. I am very surprised at how well it controls for a Rockstar game. The auto aim is nice but coming from a PC background I kinda feel like I am cheating. However, I know if it wasn't there I wouldn't be able to hit a thing with a controller.

I also cant believe I lost 45 min of my time playing blackjack. Liars dice is the dumbest game ever.

You turn off aim assist, but when some of the bigger battles get going, it comes in really handy. There's also an achievement for scoring a headshot with aim-assist off.

Also, with it on, if you get in the habit of just tapping up ever so slightly after targeting, you'll land tons of head shots.

Trashie wrote:

Anyone playing the Liars and Cheats add-on? The Stronghold MP mode is actually quite entertaining.

Yes, although not nearly as much as I should be.

I'm still a little surprised at myself, as i'd never even learned a hint of Texas Hold 'Em ever, ever, ever in my life, until RDR. Now I can actually go to poker nights and not be the guy who goes "I got all red. Is that good?"

Undead Nightmare is coming out on Oct 26.

Really looking forward to more sp RDR. I wonder if you can skin a zombie grizzly?

ebarstad wrote:

Undead Nightmare is coming out on Oct 26.

Really looking forward to more sp RDR. I wonder if you can skin a zombie grizzly?

Yeah, I like to talk game about zombies being played out...

...but zombie cowboys!? Sold! I mean, how am I supposed to say No to this?
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Aw f**k. Sold.

I don't know how (if) they'll explain a zombie uprising in the game, but I'm sensing "It was all just a dream..."

Regardless: SOLD!

Also, on Rockstar's site, it says you'll be able to get all the RDR DLC on a retail Undead Nightmare disc for $30.

ebarstad wrote:

I don't know how (if) they'll explain a zombie uprising in the game, but I'm sensing "It was all just a dream..."

Regardless: SOLD!

Also, on Rockstar's site, it says you'll be able to get all the RDR DLC on a retail Undead Nightmare disc for $30.

Two words...Indian curse

What's odd though is it's John and not Jack, not complaining mind you, just odd.

Ballotechnic wrote:

Two words...Indian curse.

Ha! Good call.

If you'd told me when I first bought RDR that I'd be riding one of the horses of the apocalypse while lassoing a zombie, I would have groaned and said, "Pass." Now however...

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Prederick wrote:

Aw f**k. Sold.

What he said.

ebarstad wrote:

If you'd told me when I first bought RDR that I'd be riding one of the horses of the apocalypse while lassoing a zombie, I would have groaned and said, "Pass." Now however...

I'm still groaning and passing, but that could just be the kidney stone.

Ballotechnic wrote:

What's odd though is it's John and not Jack, not complaining mind you, just odd.

As far as the storyline goes...

Spoiler:

I heard/read somewhere that the events of Undead Nightmare take place after John returns to his ranch, but (obviously) before the ambush by the lawmen.

MeatMan wrote:
Ballotechnic wrote:

What's odd though is it's John and not Jack, not complaining mind you, just odd.

As far as the storyline goes...

Spoiler:

I heard/read somewhere that the events of Undead Nightmare take place after John returns to his ranch, but (obviously) before the ambush by the lawmen.

Why does it even have to be "canonical" or fit into the "lore"? Can't it just be the mode where you get a sidestory with zombies?

The setting of this scenario was one of my questions before buying the DLC. I have two save files on my system, one from the beginning of the game right after I aquired the Lasso, the other from the ending of the game, after beating it. So, do I have to play all the way through the game again to unlock the Undead Nightmare to play that scenario? Or can I hop right back in from my end game save?

Spoiler:

Hopping in from the end doesn't actually sound that great given that I hated playing as Jack. It's not that I disagreed with the story, just that his voice over work was no fun. I just had a much, much better time playing as John. Didn't someone else post earlier that they went back to get the "Legend of the West" outfit as John because it didn't feel right to do that as Jack? I'd be in that camp.

Gravey wrote:
MeatMan wrote:
Ballotechnic wrote:

What's odd though is it's John and not Jack, not complaining mind you, just odd.

As far as the storyline goes...

Spoiler:

I heard/read somewhere that the events of Undead Nightmare take place after John returns to his ranch, but (obviously) before the ambush by the lawmen.

Why does it even have to be "canonical" or fit into the "lore"? Can't it just be the mode where you get a sidestory with zombies?

Honestly, that's just how my mind works, especially if they're gonna use main characters. Maybe a trace of OCD? If it was some side thing that happened to someone else I wouldn't care.

Perhaps it will be told as a recounting, as in "a time of troubles" story that someone narrates to you which then plops you into it. So depending on were you are in the main story you're either going to live it or it's going to be a "flashback" of an event (a la Hitman Blood Money).

Well, they're going to be selling a disc for Undead Nightmare and I think I read that if you get the disc, you don't need the full game to play. So maybe it won't require a save to play, regardless of which version (disc or download) you get.

Does anybody know if this game is supposed to come out for PC?

I got back into this game over the weekend. Am enjoying it, except for the fact that, after having not played it for a couple of months, I have no idea what the hell I am supposed to be doing. My journal didn't help, so I was just wandering around trying to pick up the storyline. Ended up noticing an "x" in front of Bonnie's place, which led to a cutscene about me talking about my past to Bonnie for the first time..

Hopefully that leads somewhere.

MoonDragon wrote:

Does anybody know if this game is supposed to come out for PC?

Possibly, but it hasn't been formally announced. It sure is a good excuse to pick up a console, though!

Perhaps it will be told as a recounting, as in "a time of troubles" story that someone narrates to you which then plops you into it. So depending on were you are in the main story you're either going to live it or it's going to be a "flashback" of an event (a la Hitman Blood Money).

Having watched the trailer--which looks fun, I'll grant you--I think I'd rather they just have you helm a new character for this (or maybe a side character from the main story--like the sheriff of Armadillo). They could have just done a Ballad of Gay Tony/Lost and the Damned style short story set this in this universe. It just felt...weird and kind of wrong, given the gravitas of the full game story, to have John Marston contemplate something so campy as zombies.

I'm still gonna play it, I'm sure.

I'm going to get this, but I finally got back into this game. I want to finish the story first.