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cartoonin wrote:

Can anyone recommend some Industrial Metal in the vein of Static-X or a band that has a comparable sound aesthetic? I sometimes listen to Dope, Fear Factory, Powerman 5000, Mudvayne and Coal Chamber (meh).

I love this kind of stuff as it helps me power through my workouts!

Not industrial per se but I would put Prong in that group as far as energy level. I listen to Gojira and Messhugah a lot when I work out as they have a groove so maybe dip your toes into some prog death metal and see if that pumps you up.

Oh and that Mireplanar recommendation from the last page was solid. Digging that.

So this actually started as a message to Garion, but I decided I'd share my thoughts with all of you and therefore earn the ire of the entirety of this website's metal fans.

I've finally listened to Ride the Lightning for the first time in years.

I stick by my statement that it's a better album than Master of Puppets.

But that's also basically only because the B-side still holds up surprisingly well. Fight Fire With Fire feels like "Yeah that's the foundations of thrash alright" and I completely forgot it even existed. I was actually confused when the album didn't immediately begin with Ride the Lightning itself, which is not bad but the lyrics are kind of silly to listen to. And this is someone that specializes in silly lyrics. Like, "these guys were young when they wrote this, which is precisely why I thought it was so good in high school". For Whom the Bell Tolls is just not as good once you've heard the S&M version, which speeds it up and adds some much needed dimension.

Once you hit Fate to Black, though (which is, admittedly, the last track on A side), it's basically all good. And even Fight Fire with Fire isn't as week as some of the weaker, forgettable tracks on Master of Puppets.

It's kind of like Mercenary's albums 11 Dreams and Hours That Remain. The latter has some of their best songs, period (for Master of Puppets, that would include tracks like Sanitarium), but as an entire album the former effort is just stronger.

Of course, Call of Ktulu was also surprisingly good even without orchestral accompaniment, whereas Orion is nice and moody but I dunno if it's as strong of a song. It's certainly not as fun, that's for sure.

In the end, though, we're still talking about Metallica. It's been surpassed and improved upon by nearly every genre of metal that's developed off of the thrash movement (we do not count Nu Metal, for that was born from the Black Album and shall burn in Hell with St. Anger).

Critical Defiance's Misconception will scratch your old-school thrash itch and then some:

2nd new Opeth track released.

I am so f*cking hype for this album. Both of these tracks own own own.

e: I also think Ride the Lightning is a better entire album than Master of Puppets.

cartoonin wrote:

Can anyone recommend some Industrial Metal in the vein of Static-X or a band that has a comparable sound aesthetic? I sometimes listen to Dope, Fear Factory, Powerman 5000, Mudvayne and Coal Chamber (meh).

I love this kind of stuff as it helps me power through my workouts!

This is the sh*t you want, right here:

ccesarano wrote:

So this actually started as a message to Garion, but I decided I'd share my thoughts with all of you and therefore earn the ire of the entirety of this website's metal fans.

I've finally listened to Ride the Lightning for the first time in years.

I stick by my statement that it's a better album than Master of Puppets.

But that's also basically only because the B-side still holds up surprisingly well. Fight Fire With Fire feels like "Yeah that's the foundations of thrash alright" and I completely forgot it even existed. I was actually confused when the album didn't immediately begin with Ride the Lightning itself, which is not bad but the lyrics are kind of silly to listen to. And this is someone that specializes in silly lyrics. Like, "these guys were young when they wrote this, which is precisely why I thought it was so good in high school". For Whom the Bell Tolls is just not as good once you've heard the S&M version, which speeds it up and adds some much needed dimension.

Once you hit Fate to Black, though (which is, admittedly, the last track on A side), it's basically all good. And even Fight Fire with Fire isn't as week as some of the weaker, forgettable tracks on Master of Puppets.

It's kind of like Mercenary's albums 11 Dreams and Hours That Remain. The latter has some of their best songs, period (for Master of Puppets, that would include tracks like Sanitarium), but as an entire album the former effort is just stronger.

Of course, Call of Ktulu was also surprisingly good even without orchestral accompaniment, whereas Orion is nice and moody but I dunno if it's as strong of a song. It's certainly not as fun, that's for sure.

In the end, though, we're still talking about Metallica. It's been surpassed and improved upon by nearly every genre of metal that's developed off of the thrash movement (we do not count Nu Metal, for that was born from the Black Album and shall burn in Hell with St. Anger).

Nice write-up.

I think most would point to Puppets as the band's quintessential release but I always enjoyed Lightning more.

For me it was one of those deals where I was lucky enough to have a friend turn me on to the album during its release window so it likely comes with that classic, "your first exposure is your favorite" kinda deals.

Beyond that, it comes from a time (say...'83-'85) when thrash was just on the verge of breaking mainstream but it was still firmly part of the underground scene, making peer genre albums feel extra special (Slayer/Hell Awaits, Anthrax/Spreading the Disease, Megadeth/Killing is My Business, Exodus/Bonded, etc.).

Before all these guys became household names a very short time later. Back when they all seemed to hail from the school of Combat or Megaforce record labels.

Hey, that Critical Defiance is pretty good at first listen!

I will need to sit down and really compare RTL vs MOP. I actually used to prefer Justice to either, but over time acknowlwdged MOP was better. "Creeping Death" is probably my favorite Metallica song, so RTL has that going for it right off...

Meet the Mailman. I honestly found them by a post on Instagram from a burger joint I love . Took a listen rips

Podunk wrote:
cartoonin wrote:

Can anyone recommend some Industrial Metal in the vein of Static-X or a band that has a comparable sound aesthetic? I sometimes listen to Dope, Fear Factory, Powerman 5000, Mudvayne and Coal Chamber (meh).

I love this kind of stuff as it helps me power through my workouts!

This is the sh*t you want, right here:

Nice. I know of this band, but haven't really much listened.

I'm still sad Deconbrio ended up not going in a direction I liked. They were such a good Nine Inch Nails ripoff band:

They've since gone more guitars and less electronics, which I thought I'd want, but the electronics-first production was just better to my ears.

GrandSlamSingle wrote:

Meet the Mailman. I honestly found them by a post on Instagram from a burger joint I love . Took a listen rips

I am excited to listen to this purely because the art looks almost exactly like the box for "Betrayal at House on the Hill", one of my favorite boardgames!

Thanks for the recommendations everyone! I honestly knew the majority of the bands you recommended (Gravity Kills was killer back in the day!) except for one or two, one of those being 3TEETH, so I will be digging into them a bit more.

Yeah, I knew that Industrial was all but deceased, but I was hoping to pull a couple of bands out of the ether, that I wasn't aware of.

I’m loving this detour into thrashier stuff, people!!

That 3TEETH song was giving me Rob Zombie + Marylin Manson vibes, especially this song:

'Nother new one from The Great Old Ones

Color me excited for that new Great Old Ones. Looking forward to that release!

Yes! Gatecreeper has finally announced their next tour! Looks like a strong bill, with Exhumed headlining, then Gatecreeper, Necrot, and Judiciary. I saw Exhumed last year with Revocation and they were great. Their new album dropped this week. Not as familiar with the final two bands, but I hear Necrot mentioned a lot and Judiciary just came up on Spotify during my drive in, after I finished listening to an older Gatecreeper four-way split - which I highly recommend, by the way! The GC song "Carved Into Stone" can only be found there, and it grooves really hard! The other songs all represent the other bands well, particularly the Outer Heaven track.

GrandSlamSingle wrote:

Meet the Mailman. I honestly found them by a post on Instagram from a burger joint I love . Took a listen rips

This is damn good.

Speaking of industrial metal, the band And Oceans (or should I say: ... and oceans) is coming back, though apparently moving forward required splitting with their singer.

I haven't listened to anything from them since 2002's Cypher. Apparently they've operated under a couple of different band names since then, but recently reformed as AO, signed to Season of Mist, and played a festival.

New Exhorder track is decent (Hallowed Sound) if you like your metal groovy. Like My Time, the lyrics are a bit...on the nose? I'd link it on Youtube but, it's not on Youtube. Spotify link

Aaron D. wrote:
GrandSlamSingle wrote:

Meet the Mailman. I honestly found them by a post on Instagram from a burger joint I love . Took a listen rips

This is damn good.

Finally had a chance to listen to this today. Damn good is right, beginning to end. One of those "how could I possibly have missed this?" situations.

Okay, y'all are probably tired of me talking about Tomb Mold, but I cannot get enough of their new album, Planetary Clairvoyance. I thought I couldn't get enough of their second LP, Manor of Infinite Forms, but this is even better. They're not as grimy anymore as on their early EPs or debut LP, but they're still just pummeling you with great riffs.

Someone said that they're more technical without being anything like tech death, and I think that's correct. They've added more tools to their box, cleaned up the production a bit to where you can hear and appreciate what's going on better, and somehow maintained the same overall identity that they've had all along.

Bizarrely, as their (apparent) themes have gone from hair-raising fantasy horror to sci-fi, the musical evolution seems to move along in tandem. If any other album can dethrone this as my favorite for the year, well, that'll be one hell of a listen. Gatecreeper is up to the task, but I don't know that they will.

Pitchfork likes the new Tomb Mold.

You're the hipster now, bro.

*Legion* wrote:

Pitchfork likes the new Tomb Mold.

You're the hipster now, bro.

At my advanced age, I'm thrilled to be hip!

d4m0 wrote:
Aaron D. wrote:
GrandSlamSingle wrote:

Meet the Mailman. I honestly found them by a post on Instagram from a burger joint I love . Took a listen rips

This is damn good.

Finally had a chance to listen to this today. Damn good is right, beginning to end. One of those "how could I possibly have missed this?" situations.

Glad you guys are enjoying. I follow Kuma's Corner on the Instagram. It's a burger joint in Chicago. It freaking rules. The place loves heavy metal and has burgers inspired by various bands and a special of the month. Mac and cheese also hella good. So if your in the greater Chicago area and want a good burger while listening to metal look up Kumas.

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As for the music ..ITS JUST SLAPS. Been a commute listen for a week now. Gonna dive into their discography later

I'm well aware that I'm probably the only one still into that heathenish post-hardcore/metalcore to any degree these days (hey, I do limit it to a select few bands at least) but if there's anyone else out there who goes wherever good riffs take them, I heartily recommend Knocked Loose's new one called A Different Shade of Blue.

I'm not a huge fan of his higher-pitched screams, but his lower stuff's fun and the music's sludgy as sh*t for metalcore, each track is a monster metal riff or three, and there are plenty of moments throughout that'll make you want to kick over the furniture.

I've seen Knocked Loose's name a lot lately; don't know a ton about them.

The line between hardcore and metal has always been hard to discern. I remember hearing Sick of it All for the first time over 20 years ago and thinking "it's metal without wanking solos!"

WizardM0de wrote:

I'm well aware that I'm probably the only one still into that heathenish post-hardcore/metalcore

no no!! I def dig some post hardcore and metal core. Been slamming eighteen visions on and off for years!!!

Will dig this later

I downloaded it, but it was just Madonna saying, "what the f*ck do you think you're doing?"