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r013nt0 wrote:

I mean, I like Puscifer as much as the next guy I guess. APC was ok. Loved Mer de Noms and... well that's kinda it.

Wasn't suggesting it was all great, I don't like Puscifer at all, but he's still remained active. The rest of Tool has done next to nothing.

liquid wrote:
garion333 wrote:

They're both drawn out riff jams with similar sounds and feels that then end more or less tread the same path

So... it's basically Tool? :D

Yeah, that's what people say, but both the new songs are like the Disposition-Reflections-Triad trio jam than songs like The Grudge or Lateralus. Heck, even Wings for Marie had movements to it.

Just feels stale, even if there are good moments and ideas. Feels a lot like the Devin Townsend stuff preceding Empath.

*Legion* wrote:

I'm not listening to any of the new Tool stuff until the album comes out.

10,000 Days worked for me, but that last A Perfect Circle album doesn't exactly have me excited about MJK's current music making state.

Yeah, def reserving final call to a produced version and not a live cell phone recording.

We're def on same page about the latest APC dad Rock, but the Tool music always brought out a different range than APC did. Not hearing that.

I'm curious to see their album art direction, I can name the past 2 albums I've bought physical copies of new in store, one was Type O Negative's Dead Again, and the other was 10,000 Days. I liked the 10,000 Days artwork, and I definitely liked the Lateralus look. Cool to see what they have in store, aside from the music.

Death metal fans need.to get in on this. Guaranteed to end up on my 2019 list.

Some deliciously terrible lyrics to be found in this one.

Yes please.

Tobias Forge wrote:

"I want to make a different record from Prequelle. I want it to feel different," Forge explains. "I definitely have a darker, heavier record in mind." He admits that Prequelle was more "ballad-heavy," and that the new album will relate more to their 2015 release Meliora.

https://loudwire.com/ghost-tobias-fo...

r013nt0 wrote:

Yes please.

Tobias Forge wrote:

"I want to make a different record from Prequelle. I want it to feel different," Forge explains. "I definitely have a darker, heavier record in mind." He admits that Prequelle was more "ballad-heavy," and that the new album will relate more to their 2015 release Meliora.

https://loudwire.com/ghost-tobias-fo...

Thank the dark one. Didn't particularly care for Prequelle, which felt too much like a mainstream record.

ccesarano wrote:

Some deliciously terrible lyrics to be found in this one.

Hail hoots!

So stoked for this damn record.

liquid wrote:
garion333 wrote:

They're both drawn out riff jams with similar sounds and feels that then end more or less tread the same path

So... it's basically Tool? :D

Ha, I was going to say! Everything since Aenima has been a slow slide in that direction, and it's 100% what I expect to hear from a new Tool album. One halfway decent verse and chorus followed by a repeated single semi-recycled riff while Danny Carey tries out various polyrhythms over the top of it for 10 minutes. Tool!

*Legion* wrote:

Death metal fans need.to get in on this. Guaranteed to end up on my 2019 list.

Uh, this is insanely good. Apparently the guy writing and playing almost everything on this has a PhD in Music and it shows. The layers of sounds are well done and props for bass playing. This one song has as many interesting ideas in it as many albums do. Man. Good stuff.

Podunk wrote:
liquid wrote:
garion333 wrote:

They're both drawn out riff jams with similar sounds and feels that then end more or less tread the same path

So... it's basically Tool? :D

Ha, I was going to say! Everything since Aenima has been a slow slide in that direction, and it's 100% what I expect to hear from a new Tool album. One halfway decent verse and chorus followed by a repeated single semi-recycled riff while Danny Carey tries out various polyrhythms over the top of it for 10 minutes. Tool!

They've become the parody of themselves, yes. Course, only heard two songs so far. There'll be one or two songs like The Pot on the album that are a bit tighter, so probably 9 minutes long.

garion333 wrote:

They've become the parody of themselves, yes. Course, only heard two songs so far. There'll be one or two songs like The Pot on the album that are a bit tighter, so probably 9 minutes long.

Haha, for sure! I'll still totally listen to it, and look diligently for things to enjoy about it, because Tool will always have a place in my heart. But I fully expect to be all like, "oh, these kooky guys, picking right up where they left off except older."

garion333 wrote:
r013nt0 wrote:

Yes please.

Tobias Forge wrote:

"I want to make a different record from Prequelle. I want it to feel different," Forge explains. "I definitely have a darker, heavier record in mind." He admits that Prequelle was more "ballad-heavy," and that the new album will relate more to their 2015 release Meliora.

https://loudwire.com/ghost-tobias-fo...

Thank the dark one. Didn't particularly care for Prequelle, which felt too much like a mainstream record.

I don't know what to make of this. I dig select tracks from their old discography, but I was really hoping for Square Hammer and Rats to be indicative of a more energetic approach to Prequelle. I imagine those two tracks count as "more mainstream" but other than Faith, the album feels rather lifeless. Or maybe lethargic would be a better term? And as I'm a greater fan of hastier, frenetic, or energetic metal, I'd like something that sounds more like that than the slow and weighty sounds of the prior albums.

We'll have to see, though. At this rate I think it's clear there will be at least one or two tracks I dig off the next album.

ccesarano wrote:
garion333 wrote:
r013nt0 wrote:

Yes please.

Tobias Forge wrote:

"I want to make a different record from Prequelle. I want it to feel different," Forge explains. "I definitely have a darker, heavier record in mind." He admits that Prequelle was more "ballad-heavy," and that the new album will relate more to their 2015 release Meliora.

https://loudwire.com/ghost-tobias-fo...

Thank the dark one. Didn't particularly care for Prequelle, which felt too much like a mainstream record.

I don't know what to make of this. I dig select tracks from their old discography, but I was really hoping for Square Hammer and Rats to be indicative of a more energetic approach to Prequelle. I imagine those two tracks count as "more mainstream" but other than Faith, the album feels rather lifeless. Or maybe lethargic would be a better term? And as I'm a greater fan of hastier, frenetic, or energetic metal, I'd like something that sounds more like that than the slow and weighty sounds of the prior albums.

We'll have to see, though. At this rate I think it's clear there will be at least one or two tracks I dig off the next album.

Well Square Hammer is irrefutably Ghost's best song. No. NO. Do not argue, because it just makes you look like a bad person.

Prequelle was... not great. It has moments. Miasma is fantastic. It's clear he was going for a cheesy 80s aesthetic and absolutely nailed it. Especially that sax solo. Rats and Faith are great. Danse Macabre is *good.* None of it is as good as Infestissumam. Or Meliora.

Gotta say, though. My biggest fear is that the last big metal dude I heard say "My new album is going to be the heaviest material of my career" was f*cking Devin Townsend. And then we got Empath. Which, whatever your opinion of that album is, it most certainly isn't the hardest material of his career.

garion333 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Uh, this is insanely good. Apparently the guy writing and playing almost everything on this has a PhD in Music and it shows. The layers of sounds are well done and props for bass playing. This one song has as many interesting ideas in it as many albums do. Man. Good stuff.

The whole album is just as good.

This album has apparently been released multiple times over the past 3 years. This year it got a worldwide release, and most places treat it as a 2019 album. But it seems it was originally self-released digitally in 2017 and then released again with two additional tracks and a small physical pressing in 2018.

Sad to think it's been sitting there overlooked for 2 years.

r013nt0 wrote:

I mean, I like Puscifer as much as the next guy I guess. APC was ok. Loved Mer de Noms and... well that's kinda it.

I saw APC live and Maynard spent the entire show standing in the shadows with his back to the audience. He has a wonderful voice but the dude himself can f right off.

You'll like this: https://www.riverfronttimes.com/musi...

garion333 wrote:

You'll like this: https://www.riverfronttimes.com/musi...

You're not wrong! Neither is the author of the piece!

You're both, in fact, dead on. I'd love to hear what those dudes could put out in the world without Maynard.

Look, I'm just saying that there's absolutely enough room in the world for another Explosions in the Sky....

New Batushka. Not sure which member(s) of the original Batushka this is since they've been fighting since they released their first album, but, uh, this is good.

That's a good track. I can get down with that.

e: Might as well add some #hashtagContent to this thread.

There's probably zero chance that there's a single person in this thread who isn't intimately familiar with this band (and/or song), but who cares. Sometimes it's all about the classics.

Opeth still had me there. It would be a couple more albums still before they lost me.

Mid-2000's Opeth is some peak material. Even when they were getting bored it was amazing. Opeth brought me back to metal after getting bored.

Rammstein's new album is out and so far it's been incredible. It's both a return to form, and something entirely different.

You NEED to listen to Puppe. Wow.

Cool, I'll seek the Rammstein album out.

Opeth lost me for a bit, too, though admittedly not as much as they lost others. They reeled me right back in though with Pale Communion. And Sorceress to a lesser degree.

and

A_Unicycle wrote:

Rammstein's new album is out and so far it's been incredible. It's both a return to form, and something entirely different.

You NEED to listen to Puppe. Wow.

Yeah, it's good, but I also think their prior album was good too. I'm not as impressed as you as this morning I realized that Rammstein is industrial metal's version of 311. Their songs all sound the same, but they still write some damn fine music.

r013nt0 wrote:

Opeth lost me for a bit, too, though admittedly not as much as they lost others. They reeled me right back in though with Pale Communion. And Sorceress to a lesser degree.

They're still writing good music, it's just not music I'm particularly into. My 70's prog phase is over.

garion333 wrote:

They're still writing good music, it's just not music I'm particularly into. My 70's prog phase is over. ;)

Yeah, completely understand. Mine was over too, but these days I (hopefully) spend a lot of time at the computer editing photos, which I tend to like to do to more mellow stuff. Explosions in the Sky, Sigur Ros, Norah Jones, Opeth, etc.

That said, I've seen Opeth live, and that's a thing I really have zero desire to do again unless it's in a venue with seating. Way too chill to stand around for, haha.

Content! Hopefully new to some of you. I've loved these guys for years, but was very worried when they kicked out the original singer. He has an amazing voice. But, is apparently, a drunken domestic abuser. So f*ck that guy.

New dude owns anyway.

garion333 wrote:

New Batushka. Not sure which member(s) of the original Batushka this is since they've been fighting since they released their first album, but, uh, this is good.

Whelp, turns out things are more f-ed up than I knew. The above song is from the guitarist and secondary vocalist of Batushka. I think this song rocks. Problem is his band is name Batushka.

Then this song hit Spotify the other day:

I was ... less impressed with it and thought it sounded different than the other song I listened to. Apparently this Batushka, who is signed with Metal Blade, is from the vocalist of Batushka. This band is also called Batushka.

Comments have been disabled on this video, probably because the comments all say how it isn't the real Batushka and this song sucks. Cause it does, compared to their earlier stuff and the song from the other Batushka.

This is so damn confusing.

r013nt0 wrote:
garion333 wrote:

You'll like this: https://www.riverfronttimes.com/musi...

You're not wrong! Neither is the author of the piece!

You're both, in fact, dead on. I'd love to hear what those dudes could put out in the world without Maynard.

Look, I'm just saying that there's absolutely enough room in the world for another Explosions in the Sky....

I don't mind them trying something without Maynard (I'm sure it would also be great), but this attack on Maynard seems really uncalled for.
How can I take anything from that guy seriously after he writes "Nobody really likes A Perfect Circle"? You keep on ranting, bro.

With that said, I'm looking forward to see Tool for the first time in July.

r013nt0 wrote:

Look, I'm just saying that there's absolutely enough room in the world for another Explosions in the Sky....

You’re talking about Defheaven, right?

slazev wrote:
r013nt0 wrote:
garion333 wrote:

You'll like this: https://www.riverfronttimes.com/musi...

You're not wrong! Neither is the author of the piece!

You're both, in fact, dead on. I'd love to hear what those dudes could put out in the world without Maynard.

Look, I'm just saying that there's absolutely enough room in the world for another Explosions in the Sky....

I don't mind them trying something without Maynard (I'm sure it would also be great), but this attack on Maynard seems really uncalled for.
How can I take anything from that guy seriously after he writes "Nobody really likes A Perfect Circle"? You keep on ranting, bro.

With that said, I'm looking forward to see Tool for the first time in July. :D

Hating Maynard is a part of the thing to do, though I'm not saying that's what's happening here. Metal blogs who are out only for the clicks, like Metalzone, put up article after article about Maynard. People must gobble them up as they constantly pop up in my Google feed thing. I didn't realize there was that sort of trash metal blog around, but I guess it makes the money.

Van Halen is constantly being shoved in my face too. I can tell you I've never once searched or clicked on a Van Halen article, but apparently I'm in the wheelhouse to care what Eddie said about David.

RawkGWJ wrote:

You’re talking about Defheaven, right?

I wasn't, but I might be in the future!

Gonna check 'em out.

Here's a band that would likely open for Mastodon at some point. Just enough prog to not be rock, but not enough metal to be trve. Clean vox won't be everyone's cup of tea, but seems to work for what they're doing. Their guitarist is legit. Something feels a lil off to me, but it feels like they're onto something.

Crone is a band I've been listening to heavily since year end lists hit in December. GardensTale from AMG mentioned it in his best of list and I went back to his earlier review. I think his warning that he's an emotional listener is spot on because that tends to be my immediate reaction to most music. Crone is phenomenal at creating an evocative sound, especially with the guitar leads. GardensTale pointed out the lead guitarist was schooled by Pink Floyd/David Gilmour and I wholly agree and wish there were more guitarists who go down this path.

Vox, again, will be the biggest sore spot as the singer/guitarist goes for a more raspy whine. I'm not entirely certain who he's emulating but it reminds me of something I'd almost expect from a goth or new wave band. Can't put my finger on it.

Working through that Moon Tooth track. The Mastodon reference is spot on. Definitely an influence.
It sounds like the crossroads of djent, math rock, and prog. The something that feels off, to me, is that they very occasionally get a bit too close to Numetal. I like clean vocals for the most part, but not this particular dude all that much. He's not bad, just... uninspired.

Edit: 2nd track. Music good, vox bad. Dude is hard channeling Marilyn Manson, but not well.

Content:
Sticking with the Pink Floyd influence.
Enslaved - Ground