Non-game Android Apps Recommendations Catch-All

MonoCheli wrote:

or just let the developer decide...

Problem with that is the customer would be confused and you'd have a lot of complaints asking for refunds when they didn't understand what a particular app had set for the refund time. While I would like it, I can see why google would never do it.

MonoCheli wrote:

or just let the developer decide...

this

MannishBoy wrote:

Problem with that is the customer would be confused and you'd have a lot of complaints asking for refunds when they didn't understand what a particular app had set for the refund time. While I would like it, I can see why google would never do it.

They could make it a big bold item on the purchase screen. Call it an eval period. Devs who make 1 hour games could make it smaller. Games that need huge wifi downloads would be longer.

taer wrote:

They could make it a big bold item on the purchase screen.

People would still ignore it.

I've dealt with too many customers ignoring user interface stuff over the years. I'm jaded.

I'll stick it here since it's mostly app related.

Rooted my phone with no troubles yesterday, and was a bit ashamed that it took me so long to get to the grownup party. Here's a quick rundown on what I've done thus far:

1) made a nandroid backup because every website on the planet told me to

2) installed Titanium backup, made another backup, then deleted a whole crapload of Sprint bloatware (GOODBYE NASCAR APP)

3) installed wireless tether and proceeded to feel hugely justified in buying the wifi-only iPad -- this thing works perfectly

4) installed CPUtuner in an attempt to increase battery life -- It didn't work at all (in fact it seemed to drain the battery), so I deleted it. Is SetCPU any better?

5) tried and failed to hack the Netflix app. Apparently I will need to get myself a ROM based on 2.3 to get this running. Not sure if this is worthwhile at the moment.

6) considering installing JuiceDefender. A buddy of mine gets 20 hours of heavy use out of his Epic 4G, and I get maybe 6 hours of heavy use. Trying to get up closer to his numbers.

MannishBoy wrote:
taer wrote:

They could make it a big bold item on the purchase screen.

People would still ignore it.

I've dealt with too many customers ignoring user interface stuff over the years. I'm jaded.

I agree this would happen but this is the consumers problem assuming the dev has made it clear in the first place. It is like reading EULAs. If you don't read it and then agree to let some program do whatever it wants... poop poop on you...

I would assume this would be even easier to see then reading through those stupid to read EULAs, like the permission screen in android when you install an app.

MonoCheli wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
taer wrote:

They could make it a big bold item on the purchase screen.

People would still ignore it.

I've dealt with too many customers ignoring user interface stuff over the years. I'm jaded.

I agree this would happen but this is the consumers problem assuming the dev has made it clear in the first place. It is like reading EULAs. If you don't read it and then agree to let some program do whatever it wants... poop poop on you...

I would assume this would be even easier to see then reading through those stupid to read EULAs, like the permission screen in android when you install an app.

I wish I lived in that world. In the end, the consumer who misread or misunderstood when an app didn't follow the same rules most others did would still be mad at google, who would have to support them.

It's like when our devs say that's a user training issue. While possibly true, the reality is that the only way to fix the problem is to make a consistent user interface with as little user training required as possible.

Like I said, I'm jaded.

LiquidMantis wrote:

Just got home with an Acer A500 tablet. It's so spiffy.

[Edit] Hmmm, Gingerbreak just seems to be chillin'. Wish there was some kind of status indicator.

[Edit2] So I got it rooted eventually. I'm reeeeeally digging the tablet though. Very fun.

You lucky sombitch! I want a 10" tablet soooo bad, but I won't be able to afford one for a long while. I have so many RPG PDFs that I want to read and after viewing a few on my mother-in-law's iPad I've come to the conclusion that a tablet is the single best way to read them. I'm not an Apple fan so I've been drooling over the various Android tablets and dreaming of the day I can make them my own.

Funny you mention that, long PDFs are one the main reasons I've wanted a tablet. With Tegra 3 tablets coming out this holiday season, and the Amazon "Hollywood" Tegra 3 tablet leaked to be coming out at $450, I bet you can get a 10" Tegra 2 for close to $300 around then.

LiquidMantis wrote:

Funny you mention that, long PDFs are one the main reasons I've wanted a tablet. With Tegra 3 tablets coming out this holiday season, and the Amazon "Hollywood" Tegra 3 tablet leaked to be coming out at $450, I bet you can get a 10" Tegra 2 for close to $300 around then.

If you're looking for a good PDF app check out ezPDF. I've been using it on my phone and it works like a dream. I got it as a freebie from the Amazon app store a while back, but I think it's only like $2 or something normally.

I'm using the official Adobe PDF reader now. What am I missing out on?

[Edit] Ooooo, Zinio is out on Android. Electronic magazines! I'm on Star Trek!

It pre-caches the pages so scrolling ends up being way smoother. Zooming seems smoother as well. Plus it does bookmarks, so if your pdf has them it makes skipping around a book way easier.

I got ezPDF when it was the free Amazon app, I agree it is good, I like it over the Adobe viewer.

Amazon has an in-browser emulator. Use that for a doIlikeit? test and then the post-purchase period for hardware test. Yes, 15 min is short, just throwing another option out there.

Radical Ans wrote:
LiquidMantis wrote:

Just got home with an Acer A500 tablet. It's so spiffy.

[Edit] Hmmm, Gingerbreak just seems to be chillin'. Wish there was some kind of status indicator.

[Edit2] So I got it rooted eventually. I'm reeeeeally digging the tablet though. Very fun.

You lucky sombitch! I want a 10" tablet soooo bad, but I won't be able to afford one for a long while. I have so many RPG PDFs that I want to read and after viewing a few on my mother-in-law's iPad I've come to the conclusion that a tablet is the single best way to read them. I'm not an Apple fan so I've been drooling over the various Android tablets and dreaming of the day I can make them my own.

I do not know how well they work, but have a look at www.dealextreme.com They have no-name pads and they are cheap.
The company is in Honk Kong, but shipping is for free. This site is pure awesomeness for lots of things they have.

10" screen $160
IMAGE(http://www.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_57277_1.jpg)

My dad got one of the cheap ($75-100) hong kong tablets to see if he could use it as a cheap interface for the stuff he designs. He had me play with it for a bit and it had a horridly slow processor, it was also a resistive touch screen... He thinks he can us it as a cheap touch interface just fine, and I agee, but as something for entertainment, etc. It would just make me frustrated.

Edit, double post removed.

Sparhawk wrote:

I do not know how well they work, but have a look at www.dealextreme.com They have no-name pads and they are cheap.
The company is in Honk Kong, but shipping is for free. This site is pure awesomeness for lots of things they have.

I use dealextreme a lot, but mostly for cheap stuff like cables and mini-torches. The build quality of stuff on that site is iffy at best, and even to Singapore, delivery can take 10 days. Even though it's cheap, I wouldn't recommend picking up stuff like tablets from dealextreme.

The wallpaper on that tablet amuses me, I think they lifted it from dA.

For Miren users -- anyone feeling like that browser just eats the battery life? It's regularly sending the watchdog app into warning mode, and my phone has had pretty miserable longevity since I installed it.

Seth wrote:

For Miren users -- anyone feeling like that browser just eats the battery life? It's regularly sending the watchdog app into warning mode, and my phone has had pretty miserable longevity since I installed it.

Had similar problems when I gave it a try. Ended up back with Dolphin HD Mini.

Anybody use Enhanced Email? On sale at Amazon for $5 today. With the stock email app not really doing HTML emails, I'm thinking about getting this for my non-Gmail accounts. $5 is much more my buy price than $20 for Touchdown.

Is K-9 Mail (free) not an option for you? Because I've been using it since late 2009.

K9 is awesome. And I believe it does Exchange too, although probably not all aspects of functionality.

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

K9 is awesome. And I believe it does Exchange too, although probably not all aspects of functionality.

it does exchange email, but I haven't been able to sync Calendar or Contacts.
And I want to keep my Google Contacts and Exchange contacts separate.

Right, it doesn't fully do activesync/exchange. It does some kind of workaround to the licensed exchange access I assume.

I used K9 at one point, but it had some annoyances that I can't remember of the top of my head. But that was a long time ago. Might be different now.

MannishBoy wrote:

Right, it doesn't fully do activesync/exchange. It does some kind of workaround to the licensed exchange access I assume.

I used K9 at one point, but it had some annoyances that I can't remember of the top of my head. But that was a long time ago. Might be different now.

I had heard about K9 for some time, but never tried it. I would use the 30day trial Touchdown App. It keeps my contacts separate and it's an overall great email app. Before finally giving in to the $20.00 key, I tried K9. I googled for contact and calendar sync and was unable to find anything. I finally decided to pay for the Key.

Hobbes2099 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

Right, it doesn't fully do activesync/exchange. It does some kind of workaround to the licensed exchange access I assume.

I used K9 at one point, but it had some annoyances that I can't remember of the top of my head. But that was a long time ago. Might be different now.

I had heard about K9 for some time, but never tried it. I would use the 30day trial Touchdown App. It keeps my contacts separate and it's an overall great email app. Before finally giving in to the $20.00 key, I tried K9. I googled for contact and calendar sync and was unable to find anything. I finally decided to pay for the Key.

From what I'm reading in the positive reviews, Enhanced Email does pretty much what TD does, and with this sale, at 1/4 the price. $20 is more than I want to pay, but $5 is probably something I will do.

MannishBoy wrote:
Hobbes2099 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

Right, it doesn't fully do activesync/exchange. It does some kind of workaround to the licensed exchange access I assume.

I used K9 at one point, but it had some annoyances that I can't remember of the top of my head. But that was a long time ago. Might be different now.

I had heard about K9 for some time, but never tried it. I would use the 30day trial Touchdown App. It keeps my contacts separate and it's an overall great email app. Before finally giving in to the $20.00 key, I tried K9. I googled for contact and calendar sync and was unable to find anything. I finally decided to pay for the Key.

From what I'm reading in the positive reviews, Enhanced Email does pretty much what TD does, and with this sale, at 1/4 the price. $20 is more than I want to pay, but $5 is probably something I will do.

Post how you like it, I could be interested in it for Exchange and an old Yahoo account I have to keep an eye on every now and then.

mwdowns wrote:
Seth wrote:

For Miren users -- anyone feeling like that browser just eats the battery life? It's regularly sending the watchdog app into warning mode, and my phone has had pretty miserable longevity since I installed it.

Had similar problems when I gave it a try. Ended up back with Dolphin HD Mini.

I also have been having battery drain problems with it, but do really like how it works... It did not work properly on my Transformer in Honeycomb either (scaling issues)... Dolphin it is, I guess.

MonoCheli wrote:

Post how you like it, I could be interested in it for Exchange and an old Yahoo account I have to keep an eye on every now and then.

Well, if you use Swype, hold off or try the test version I wish I'd found earlier.

When entering text in the app, while typing in Swype, the text box on the keyboard doesn't update with your typing. As soon as you close your keyboard, the original text box shows the text.

Pretty nasty bug that makes it unusable.