Nier Catch-All

Eventually you unlock some fast travel (between the various docks in each area) but personally I feel the areas are small enough, and you move fast enough, that it's not too much of a hassle to run between places.

There are a fair few side quests that can be a touch annoying though (e.g : "hey thanks for collecting ITEM A from Facade for me and coming all the way back here with it...can you now collect ITEM B from Facade for me. Thanks!").

***

aaaand finished.

One play-through at least.

Looks like the 'new game +' starts you half way through the game (after a certain scene) and has an increased focus on the girl and her backstory. (It starts off with some text-stories that are VERY well written and suprisingly graphic).

Hopefully it fills out a bit more of the backstory overall as well - it's got a good ending but it doesn't half go a bit batsh*t crazy. You get the general gist of what's going on but it really needs to be fleshed out a little. I assume that you learn more second time through the latter part of the game.

Anyway. Overall I think this game was a very nice suprise and a MUCh better game than Final Fantasy 13 was. FF13 can keep it's shiny graphics, I much prefer a game that's got the guts to have a boss battle that consists entirely of text

stevenmack wrote:
I much prefer a game that's got the guts to have a boss battle that consists entirely of text :P

Sold. I don't know when, but I'm buying this.

Oh man...been playing through 'Game B' mode.

Let's just say it puts some of the boss battles in something of a different perspective.

BIG boss related spoiler...probably want to avoid if your playing or planning to play through the game.

Spoiler:
So in the second half of the game you need to do that old RPG staple - kill 5 bosses to get 5 pieces of a key needed to unlock the final dungeon. Playthrough 1 is straightforward, get to each boss. Kill. Grab key. Job done.

In playthrough 2...you get extra back story for the bosses.

For example : P-33 is a humanoid robot being ridden by a shade in an abandoned military base.

In playthrough 1, the two orphaned kids from the weapons store above go exploring the ruins for materials and the older boy is killed when some rubble falls on his head. Before fleeing the younger boy see's P-33 standing on the far side of the rubble and thinks that he was responsible for it. After asking you to hunt down and kill the robot, the kid turns up and starts beating on it's corpse pledging to use every last scrap of metal here to make weapons out of. At the time i did think it suspicious the way they animated the shade and how it looked but...well, the 'little guy controlling the big guy' motif has been used to death many times before. Didn't give it a second thought.

In playthrough 2...

You learn that the shade riding in the robot's basket is just a frightened child, orphaned when some humans are chasing them down while exploring the base. When the mother shade is killed, P-33 eventually finds the child sobbing on the ground. Sympathising with the child he decides to protect him from danger from that point forward. In the above scene with the brothers, they two of them just turn up after hearing the noise and see what has happened. The little shade is even sad that the older brother got killed as they 'sounded nice'.

Oh, and the shade has nicknamed P-33 'Beepy'

And now I'm almost back at the point where I'm about to head back down into the dungeon and kill them both all over again.

This is not a fight I'm looking foward to.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
stevenmack wrote:
I much prefer a game that's got the guts to have a boss battle that consists entirely of text :P

Sold. I don't know when, but I'm buying this.

To be fair, it's only a very brief scene but I thought it was brilliant nonetheless

Actually all the 'text story' stuff is very well written (in fact, the whole thing has been translated really well). Possibly not to the standard of the text stories in Lost Oddessy, but it's pretty close.

You know what...i'm sticking this on my 'top games of 2010' list.

I hope to play this game sometime soon. For those curious, Giantbomb has a quick look up.

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-...

Clemenstation wrote:
I'm mildly interested.

So was I until I found out that there were two versions of the game.

A metro character for the Japanese release and a big hulking caveman for the Western release.

This seems like more of a mid 80s attitude towards gaming than a 2010 one.

Lard wrote:
Clemenstation wrote:
I'm mildly interested.

So was I until I found out that there were two versions of the game.

A metro character for the Japanese release and a big hulking caveman for the Western release.

This seems like more of a mid 80s attitude towards gaming than a 2010 one.

That's literally the only difference though - the main character's age and his relation to the younger girl (with the younger version of the character it's his sister rather than daughter).

Personally I think we get the better deal - the story works a LOT better with it being a father/daughter thing and Neir is a very refreshing change of pace from your average JRPG protagonist in a way that I think wouldn't make as much sense if he was a younger character.

They should put you on the PR payroll Stevenmack. What you describe sounds quite tasty indeed!

Clemenstation wrote:
They should put you on the PR payroll Stevenmack. What you describe sounds quite tasty indeed!

I'm about 11-12 hrs in now, and still enjoying it. When the rental period is up, I will likely keep an eye out for a cheaper copy. If I wasn't about to pick up 3D.Game Heroes and Alan Wake later this month, I would probably go get a copy this week.

My copy is on it's way, thanks to you filthy enablers.

Finished playthrough B earlier....VERY worth the time to go through it the second time at least (you start 75% of the way through and it's much quicker as well since you carry forward all the items/levels you have).

It...changes the perspective of the latter half of the game quite considerably.

spider_j wrote:
My copy is on it's way, thanks to you filthy enablers.

...sigh, likewise.

Nei wrote:
spider_j wrote:
My copy is on it's way, thanks to you filthy enablers.

...sigh, likewise. :|

Curses, I may stop by Gamestop on the way home tonight.

Clemenstation wrote:
Nei wrote:
spider_j wrote:
My copy is on it's way, thanks to you filthy enablers.

...sigh, likewise. :|

Curses, I may stop by Gamestop on the way home tonight.

My budget! It hurts! Make it stop!

[proudly displays his 'Filthy Enabler' badge]

I'm a helper!

[hangs his head in shame]

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I avoided Gamestop... this time. Mostly just due to laziness and a packed subway.

Just remember: if you live near a K-Mart, this will be on sale for $45 as of tomorrow.

Clemenstation wrote:
I avoided Gamestop... this time. Mostly just due to laziness and a packed subway.

Whatcha have to remember here is to make other people do stuff for you! My copy was hand delivered by a minion.

I'm having a lot of fun with this. Lots of hypersonic running about and button mashing on the first couple of hours, but things open up nicely after that. The game gives you a foreshadowing of what is to come in the prologue. Graphically, the game ain't winning any awards, but the last 2 games I played were FF13 and God of War 3, so I am spoiled at the moment. In terms of gameplay, this one bridges the gap between the other two very appropriately.

As it stands, I heartily endorse the filthy enabling.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Just remember: if you live near a K-Mart, this will be on sale for $45 as of tomorrow.

Ooh. That's... hard to pass up. There's one on the way to work.

I could wait another month to get Alan Wake. I imagine it won't be going anywhere.

I liked this guy's reviews. (NSFW)

"Nier also comes with an old persons warning. 10 mins of the magic effects in this game have more color and movement than everything that happened on the earth in the 1950's"

No K-Marts in Toronto. That's okay though, Goozex is flooding me with last year's goodies so I should probably get those out of the way first.

Poor, poor Justin McElroy

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/03/nier-review-fail/

Hilarious, but it's worth noting as a warning for those not at this point yet -

a) he is totally doing exactly what I did for a long while (which is fishing in completely the wrong spot). Once you get the fishing quest, head to the side-bay with the red X and fish there, you'll get the Shaman fish pretty much first try.

b) he's fishing in a spot that's too 'high level' for him, hence the low progress bar speed.

Not his fault, it's not explained very well at all.

Also, note that this is the ONLY time you are ever forced to fish in the game. You can totally forget about it after this point.

"I give NIER a zero."

Bahahahahaha!

That review was awesome.

"Most of the game sucks, but this part really sucks!"

I was going to post something on this.

Sorry, but if your job is to review, and *you* screwed up, and then you turn around and refuse to review a game, then you're a failure.

Yeah. But surely you can empathize with his sheer rage at getting stuck on a fishing minigame. I've had similar snags before (most, admittedly, before Google existed and it wasn't quite so easy to figure out what the issue is).

I don't think that review... thing... made me any less likely to get the game. In fact, the little bay he was fishing in looked rather pretty.

I'm intrigued, but not 60$ intrigued. Fortunately, this one seems destined for the sales rack pretty soon.
I'd hit it for 30.

Well, that's endings "C" and "D" finished.
Which I guess means I'm pretty much done with the game - since ending "D" deletes all your save game data.

For me at least this game has been one of those very pleasant surprises that crop up out of nowhere, and it's definately got a good chance of ending on my top five for 2010 I think.

I can't actually think of any other game where some of the boss battles come pretty damned close to bringing a tear to your eye quite as much as...

Spoiler:
Fighting P-33 and the little shade in the second play through. Or the wolves, for that matter. Both were pretty heartbreaking stuff.

It's a very funny game in places but it goes to some flippin' dark depths as well before the end.

I also just spotted that the soundtrack is on Itunes. Nice.

stevenmack wrote:
Well, that's endings "C" and "D" finished.
Which I guess means I'm pretty much done with the game - since ending "D" deletes all your save game data.

...um, WHAT!?

Nei wrote:
stevenmack wrote:
Well, that's endings "C" and "D" finished.
Which I guess means I'm pretty much done with the game - since ending "D" deletes all your save game data.

...um, WHAT!? :shock:

There's a story reason for it but, yeah, save data go bye bye

It asks you if your REALLY sure about five times amd you have to enter your character name again before it actually happens though, so there's no chance of it happening by accident.