Captain America Is The Human Torch

Prederick wrote:

Well, whoever is Cap'n A, it looks like he'll be up against Codename Agent Elrond Red Skull Smith V.

Is Hugo Weaving looking to be crowned King of the Nerds or something?

I can see that working. He has awesome villain voice.

Prederick wrote:

Well, whoever is Cap'n A, it looks like he'll be up against Codename Agent Elrond Red Skull Smith V.

You forgot Megatron.

Prederick wrote:

Is Hugo Weaving looking to be crowned King of the Nerds or something?

In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished.

Now that I've stopped having a Quintin-esque reaction, I actually would have been interested to see Cap Crasinski...imagine how much of a reveal it would have been once he came out of the inject-y chamber (my memory of Cap's origin is fuzzy, I do apologise) and was all henched out and amazing looking - the audience would lose their shizz.

VDOWhoNeedsDD wrote:

...imagine how much of a reveal it would have been once he came out of the inject-y chamber (my memory of Cap's origin is fuzzy, I do apologise) and was all henched out and amazing looking - the audience would lose their shizz.

Hey, even if they couldn't bulk the guy up they could just throw a muscle suit on him like they did the poor ol' Juggernaut. I read they also wanted to do that to Liev Schreiber in Wolverine but he felt he'd look ridiculous so actually hit the gym instead. Heck, if you could get Cameron to direct he would just let you voice a buff CGI version of Cap. Working out and actually building muscle is soooo 20th century.

On the guy's physical build... you never know when someone might pull an Ed Norton in American History X on you.

Sometimes all it takes is the right personal trainer.

Terry Gross interviewed Christian Bale around the time Batman Begins came out, and asked him about doing Batman immediately after The Machinist. He said something to the effect of "The muscle doesn't have to be good for anything, it just has to be there."

Actually, The Human Torch was just offered the role.

Eezy_Bordone wrote:

Actually, The Human Torch was just offered the role.

Awkward crossovers abound.

Protect the environment, or I'll f***ing KILL you! CAPTAAAAIN PLANEEET!

The human torch was denied a bank loan.

Confirmed: the Human Torch is now Captain America.

Too bad. I was pulling for Sam Rockwell.

The OP has been appropriately tweaked. Awkward crossovers indeed.

I have to admit, I really liked Chris Evans in "Not Another Teen Movie"

Semantics: shouldn't it be the other way around? He was the Human Torch first.

Also: he was pretty solid in Sunshine too. The only movie he's been in other than the Fantastic Four disasters that I've seen was Push, and it was... well let's not talk about it. But no amount of good acting could have saved that movie.

He was in Street Kings with Keanu as well. The movie wasn't that great but I thought he did a good job.

What are they doing?! One superhero per actor! They're ruining the illusion.

Was it really that hard to find a blond? I mean Cap has a few distinguishing features - blue eyes, blond hair and well built. They couldn't find anyone who could do all three?

farley3k wrote:

Was it really that hard to find a blond? I mean Cap has a few distinguishing features - blue eyes, blond hair and well built. They couldn't find anyone who could do all three?

Finally, stopping that whole "Aryan race" thing has bit us in the ass.

Let's face it, each and every one of us knew it would be a problem eventually.

Wembley wrote:

What are they doing?! One superhero per actor! They're ruining the illusion.

That trend got tossed thanks to Ryan "Deadpool/Green Lantern" Reynolds.

farley3k wrote:

Was it really that hard to find a blond? I mean Cap has a few distinguishing features - blue eyes, blond hair and well built. They couldn't find anyone who could do all three?

I'm fine with taking liberties like this in casting, actually I prefer it. It makes very little difference to me what hair color Captain America has, if they find a brown haired guy who is a 3% better actor (since it is obviously possible to make objective, precise assessments like that) then more power to them.

Of course there are times when race is a very important part of the story, and you want to limit the disconnect if convenient, but in general I think little changes like that aren't a big deal. A lot of times when people remake movies or make adaptations they make much more egregious errors (combining two characters, removing characters) so minor racial changes don't bother me nearly as much.

I have a bigger problem with gender switches and large age changes, but those don't happen nearly as often.

Yonder wrote:

I'm fine with taking liberties like this in casting, actually I prefer it. It makes very little difference to me what hair color Captain America has, if they find a brown haired guy who is a 3% better actor (since it is obviously possible to make objective, precise assessments like that) then more power to them.

I'd agree with this. The whole Robert Downey Jr./Tony Stark thing is a rarity you can't expect from every superhero film.

Focusing too much on the appearance of an actor can limit your choices to people who simply aren't that good for the role.

Rat Boy wrote:

That trend got tossed thanks to Ryan "Deadpool/Green Lantern" Reynolds.

Never mention his name as Deadpool again. Please? Pretty pretty please? I'm trying so desperately hard to forget that movie exists.

Thin_J wrote:

Never mention his name as Deadpool again. Please? Pretty pretty please? I'm trying so desperately hard to forget that movie exists.

Best way to do it? Find and watch the version with no special effects. The final fight is 20 minutes of 2 guys hugging. The villain was a placeholder grey box.

Yonder wrote:

I'm fine with taking liberties like this in casting, actually I prefer it. It makes very little difference to me what hair color Captain America has, if they find a brown haired guy who is a 3% better actor (since it is obviously possible to make objective, precise assessments like that) then more power to them.

Of course there are times when race is a very important part of the story, and you want to limit the disconnect if convenient, but in general I think little changes like that aren't a big deal. A lot of times when people remake movies or make adaptations they make much more egregious errors (combining two characters, removing characters) so minor racial changes don't bother me nearly as much.

I agree, I don't think his blondness or blue eyeness defines the character.

Besides, look at Fantastic Four: they bleached natural brunette Jessica Alba so she could do Sue Storm (no one would mistakes Alba for a natural blonde).

Of course the F4 movies weren't that great, so maybe it's a bad example.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Of course the F4 movies weren't that great, so maybe it's a bad example. ;)

You had Jessica Alba in a skin-tight outfit. That qualifies it as a good movie right off the bat.

farley3k wrote:

Was it really that hard to find a blond? I mean Cap has a few distinguishing features - blue eyes, blond hair and well built. They couldn't find anyone who could do all three?

Curses! If only there existed some sort of product that could re-colour human hair!!

Chumpy_McChump wrote:
farley3k wrote:

Was it really that hard to find a blond? I mean Cap has a few distinguishing features - blue eyes, blond hair and well built. They couldn't find anyone who could do all three?

Curses! If only there existed some sort of product that could re-colour human hair!!

My thoughts exactly. And even a stylist at a student salon could do a better job than Alba's hair looked in either of the F4 movies. Hell-- look at Kirsten Dunce in the Spidey movies. If it weren't for her extreme blondeness leaking out into the role (that is, if she had never opened her mouth), I'd have believed she really was a redhead.

EDIT: Also, Ryan Reynolds would make a fabulous Deadpool. He's got the comedic timing, wit and the build for it. Too bad they've never had Deadpool in a movie so far

Deadpool made up the best parts of Wolverine. Except the end. Only speaking Deadpool.