EVE Online - Catch All & new meat check-in

krev82 wrote:

At this stage I kinda want a non-pvp version of Eve, I know it wouldn't draw the same interest or attention in from most who love Eve but I'd love to explore the galaxy and tend to various things without constantly having to worry about getting screwed by random individuals or groups I really have no hope of defense against.

Ascent: The Space Game

It's early, and occasionally buggy, but it's sort of Eve PVE.

krev82 wrote:

At this stage I kinda want a non-pvp version of Eve, I know it wouldn't draw the same interest or attention in from most who love Eve but I'd love to explore the galaxy and tend to various things without constantly having to worry about getting screwed by random individuals or groups I really have no hope of defense against.

Have you tried X3: Terran Conflict or X3: Albion Prelude?

iluminatr: Glad to see you decided on a corp! It's a bit of a hassle and a wait, but E-Uni really is great at teaching new players. Plus, I think they may still be close to us (Brave) if you decide to hop in to PvP.

merphle: Are you in the GWJ chat?

BTW, this is Jhonast.

Yep, I'm in the GWJ chat, as Jesibel.

Just in case you new guys didn't know...Eve is adding Daily's starting 5/24.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default...

TL;DR
Log in, kill a rat, get 10,000 SP.

fogrob wrote:

Just in case you new guys didn't know...Eve is adding Daily's starting 5/24.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default...

TL;DR
Log in, kill a rat, get 10,000 SP.

5 minutes of work to get 3-4 hours worth of skill training. Can be done on each character on the account, too... so you could use two alts to accrue SP, then extract & inject them in bulk every couple of months to your main.

It seems that Eve Online is adding a free-to-play character tier. It gives new players (or cheap old retired vets like myself) access to the universe with a few small ships and basic skills, which can then be upgraded into a full paid account.

Interesting way to adapt the F2P model to an existing business model. It also seems to apply to retired pilots who might just want to log in and do some random crusing or test out new versions, without committing cash money in the deal. It might also be yet another avenue to have multiple anonymous scouts or highsec alts - I wonder if multiboxing free accounts is possible.

Alz wrote:

It seems that Eve Online is adding a free-to-play character tier. It gives new players (or cheap old retired vets like myself) access to the universe with a few small ships and basic skills, which can then be upgraded into a full paid account.

Interesting way to adapt the F2P model to an existing business model. It also seems to apply to retired pilots who might just want to log in and do some random crusing or test out new versions, without committing cash money in the deal. It might also be yet another avenue to have multiple anonymous scouts or highsec alts - I wonder if multiboxing free accounts is possible.

This is literally what I need to play again. If I can log in and keep my skills going from time to time when I don't have time to play that would be wonderful, and I now don't have to pay in those times, but can pay/play when I have the time.

Hmmm, maybe I'll try and login again myself and see what's changed in the 8 years since I last played. I'm sure it's not that much.

Well, a lot has. Unless you are talking pve, in which case nothing at all.

manta173 wrote:

This is literally what I need to play again. If I can log in and keep my skills going from time to time when I don't have time to play that would be wonderful, and I now don't have to pay in those times, but can pay/play when I have the time.

My understanding is that the new "Free" Alpha Clones are actually capped at the amount and type of skills they can train - enough to learn the basics to fly their racial frigates and cruisers, not enough to run anything T2 or train up the industrial or economy efficiency skills.

How does the whole skill extraction and injection thing work? is that just raw skill points or is it skill specific?

fogrob wrote:

iluminatr: Glad to see you decided on a corp! It's a bit of a hassle and a wait, but E-Uni really is great at teaching new players. Plus, I think they may still be close to us (Brave) if you decide to hop in to PvP.

Thanks fogrob, I did join the Uni and then promptly didn't play for a couple of months... Kinda my trend with this one. I like them though, it's a good fit for me right now, trying to learn more and figure out how to survive. With the constant state of war I'm getting more accustomed to flying a little paranoid.

krev82 wrote:

How does the whole skill extraction and injection thing work? is that just raw skill points or is it skill specific?

The extractors and injectors deal with raw skill points, but if you're using an extractor you will have to choose skills to unlearn (unless you have 500k skill points unallocated, I guess).

The catch is that the more skill points you have, the less you will benefit from a skill injector. So while it always costs 500k to make an injector, the amount of points you get from injecting it will be between 150k and 500k, depending on how many points your character has already accrued.

This support article goes into more detail and has a list of the different tiers.

I re-upped my subscription and got back into this yesterday. It's been a long time, must be more than a few years. I am pretty confused and fuzzy about how everything works. Yesterday I just did mining while I watched youtube videos to refresh myself on what I used to know, and learn new stuff. Apparently compressing ores is a thing now.

If anyone was a fan of Eve Radio and hasn't heard already, Jeff "BigCountry" Waltman, also known as BC, passed away on Nov 1 at the age of 37. He'd been ill for a while, but his passing was sudden and unexpected.

His Friday night shows on Eve Radio were part of some of the best times I'd spent playing the game. Even though I've been out of Eve for a while, it's still sad to know that he's not there anymore.

RIP BigCountry.

I'm starting to get my legs under me again. I apparently own a Mammoth, and with Cargo Expanders I was able to start consolidating everything I had left spread out around stations around me, up to and including my Vexor Cruiser. The only thing two large for the Mammoth to move around are my two Nereus's, but that's acceptable.

I had apparently been stockpiling Ore, but looking at current prices and my skill levels Refining would be a net loss for me right now. I've started to sell off my Plagiacite, but I am holding on to the lower stuff for now, I picked up the ore specific processing skills, but haven't gone into them just yet, instead opting to continue on mining skills.

I'm currently mining in my Vexor, which is what I used as the jumping off platform from combat missions to start getting in to mining. My mining yield is pretty high, more than double what I could accomplish with the T1 Mining Frigate, but the down side is the pitiful cargo hold. I've got it maxed at around 1300 m3, which I fill up in just over 2 minutes, so I'm making a lot of trips right now.

What I need to be doing is mining in some sort of fleet, where I can be one of the miners and the Rat defense while a Hauler covers my only weakness, but I haven't started looking into that just yet. I remember setting up something with contracts and doing that without even being in a corp, but I don't remember any of the details.

At this point I've got almost 4 million in cash and maybe three in unsold Ore. It looks like I'll need around 30 to buy and outfit a Procurer to improve my mining, I can probably close that gap more than twice as fast with cooperative mining.

Oh look, an EVE thread! Hey y'all! I'm looking forward to diving back in in a few weeks once Alpha clones hit. Yay!

I almost got the itch to play again, and then ... WTF?!

PLEX are up to 1.25 BILLION (with a B?!) ISK?

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I'm still bitter that my favorite gameplay styles (mineral market & T2 arbitrage, high-volume loot drop refining, and L4 wreck salvage services) were all but erased from the game a few patches ago. Gone are the days when I ran a 20b / month investment portfolio spread across a dozen systems, and I spent years playing the game for free.

Nowadays, with a little effort I can pull in maybe a billion a month from high-sec PI, but it starts to feel like work after a few consecutive days of it. Worse, if I miss a few days, I'm off my trajectory for my next Plex and suddenly I'm trying to decide if the pimped out Machariel I've got parked in a L4 sweet spot isn't better off in someone else's hands, and I'm done for another six months, until I get that itch again.

That sounds about right with inflation being what it was back when I played in 2008. I think they were around 400M at that point. I might try and download it once alpha clones come in just to see what I have where on the two accounts I ran.

I think I still have some of your stuff stashed somewhere....

I was talking with Mr. Bismarck the other day, and mentioned I'd probably play this far more if we had a GWJ group. No way we have the numbers, right?

I paid for a few months and tried out Karmafleet for a while. Being in a huge, serious corp was really good, and I joined a few fights. But I still wasn't getting a ton of personal "fun" out of it. I might try out alpha clones, though, just so I can tour around the Universe and see some of the sights. If I logged onto my main in Goonspace without rejoining the corp, I would be screwed.

I don't think there are enough of us to make our own Corp, but we could arrange to go to the same corp. For now I just completed my application to Eve University. No idea how long I'll stay in there, or where I'll move on afterwards.

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I've been in E-Uni, Brave, and quite a few others, but I never stuck around for long. I just resubbed a few weeks back and I doubt I've put in more than a few hours.

If I had more time I'd be happy to do a GWJ group. It's been close to 8 years since I logged in and I only played for 6 months back then I think. I'm sure I would be very helpful.

I intend to give it another go once the Alpha clones hit, either running up an alt or just meandering around with my current 'omega'. If we had a GWJ group of some kind, either as its own corp or part of an existing one, I'd be happy to join up with that.

As part of December's Rhea release, clone upgrades and skill point loss on death will be completely removed from the game.

wait what?! completely missed this tidbit earlier, that certainly makes the prospect of getting wtf gank-podded without any chance in hell less horrifying. Guess I should have paid more attention to those countless COME BACKKKKKKK emails when Rhea was being released.

You guys do know there's a GWJ channel, right ? I think the password is still at the top of the thread. Means you can chat to normal people in one channel, at least.

davet010 wrote:

You guys do know there's a GWJ channel, right ? I think the password is still at the top of the thread. Means you can chat to normal people in one channel, at least.

And also GWJers!