EVE Online - Catch All & new meat check-in

I played EVE for a month back in June/July 2008. I spent $10 on the game on Steam at the time and am currently thinking of jumping back in. Do I need to pick up any of the expansions I don't already have, like Apocrypha, or can I just jump back in and get to those later (like most mmo's)?

I think I bought Revelations and Trinity when I bought the game, but since I'm at work right now, I can't seem to find out if all I have is the original vanilla release.

Tanks! *boom*

All EVE expansions are free, if you have EVE and it's patched then you've got it all.

Right. One server = one patch to rule over everyone. No purchasing involved.

You guys are my new best friends. I was seriously worried I had to spend another $15 to get Apocrypha and then the monthly fee on top of it. That was totally turning me off.

This also explains why the game is so damn cheap on Steam . . . and why I couldn't find the earlier expansions.

I am still happily running missions in my Dominix. Had my first real scare running the mission 'Stop the Thief'. Got scrammed by the second wave and the six scramming frigs were surprisingly resilient. Even with my LARII and MARII active, I was taking significantly more damage from the Battleships and Battlecruisers than I could tank. Finally killed off the last frig and warped out with only 58% structure remaining. Ouch, that was close.

I must have about 20 L4 missions under my belt because I had my first storyline mission several days ago.

To spice things up a bit, I picked up my first T2 ship, an Ishkur, with the goal of churning through a bunch of L2 missions for Gallente Federal Intelligence. They provide potentially the best high security agents for me so I figure I'll take the time to grind up my rep with them.

The Ishkur is a blast to fly. I flew a L1 mission to warm up and the mission was over in about 15 seconds. Level 2's are a bit more challenging but I have yet to break a sweat. Frigates fall to my drone's and rails as fast as I can target them. Cruisers last a bit longer but still melt in short order.

Question: Once I get up to Level 3, I can jump back into my Myrmidon but was wondering if there is something more fun/challenging/interesting to fly? I was thinking with a little more time investment, I could compile enough LP's to pick up a Navy Vexor. Any thoughts on how that would fare for L3 missions?

The Navy Vexor should work just fine. I've known people to rat in 0.0 space in normal Vexors for fun. You could always try and stay in the Ishkur :).

An Ishkur can run level 3 missions just fine, it'd probably do a better job of it than a Navy Vexor.

Get into a Deimos - you should have pretty good gunnery skills from using a Dommy, and it's easy to fit. Looks a bit cooler than the SS Pinocchio as well

Elycion wrote:

An Ishkur can run level 3 missions just fine, it'd probably do a better job of it than a Navy Vexor.

An interesting proposition. I haven't considered this but find it an intriguing possibility.

davet010 wrote:

Get into a Deimos - you should have pretty good gunnery skills from using a Dommy, and it's easy to fit. Looks a bit cooler than the SS Pinocchio as well :)

I've been lagging on my gunnery skills pretty bad to train up drones so this probably isn't the best ship for me.

EVE is only $5 on Direct 2 Drive as part of their 5 year anniversary promotion, including 30 day trial. I think I'm gonna give it a shot!

Copingsaw wrote:
Elycion wrote:

An Ishkur can run level 3 missions just fine, it'd probably do a better job of it than a Navy Vexor.

An interesting proposition. I haven't considered this but find it an intriguing possibility.

davet010 wrote:

Get into a Deimos - you should have pretty good gunnery skills from using a Dommy, and it's easy to fit. Looks a bit cooler than the SS Pinocchio as well :)

I've been lagging on my gunnery skills pretty bad to train up drones so this probably isn't the best ship for me.

Are you talking about the IshKUR or the IshTAR ? Ishtar is the one that looks like a Vexor but with mega drone bonuses, the Ishkur is the small frigate with the big nose.

After avoiding EVE for years because of its reputation for being brutal on new players, I just installed the 14-day trial a few days ago to see if there's anything for a new player of a 6 year old MMO. I'm sure its mostly that 'new game smell' talking, but it has been 5 days now and so far I'm having a good time. Many of the suggestions in this thread were quite helpful. So, thanks!

Currently, I am running through all the newbie missions offered by the career path agents in an attempt to find my niche in this game. Having only finished the industry-themed line of missions, I've enjoyed that quite a bit. It took a bit of time to wind my way through the process of harvesting, refining and manufacturing, but once I'd made my first Bantam, I was all smiles. The last mission reward was a Badger, but I haven't activated it or even examined it yet so I'm not sure what it's all about yet.

Given how much fun I had during the industry missions, I'm looking forward to diving into the combat- and business-themed missions. If EVE continues to deliver I may pony up the fifteen bones for a subscription and then go hunting for a corporation.

Either way, thanks for the infoz goodjers

davet010 wrote:

Are you talking about the IshKUR or the IshTAR ? Ishtar is the one that looks like a Vexor but with mega drone bonuses, the Ishkur is the small frigate with the big nose.

I was talking about the Ishkur, like I said. Taking a HAC into a level 3 mission is akin to using dynamite to kill gophers.

Turemvor, in case you didn't notice (above), Eve is only $5 over at Direct2Drive and comes with the 30 day subscription. That should run for the next two weeks, I believe, but don't quote me on that.

Turemvor wrote:

If EVE continues to deliver I may pony up the fifteen bones for a subscription and then go hunting for a corporation.

Direct2Drive has EVE on sale this week GI! $5 dollah! You like, you buy, you buy, you like!

Filthy enabler squad, signing off!

I completely missed that post. Thanks for the link!

Elycion wrote:
davet010 wrote:

Are you talking about the IshKUR or the IshTAR ? Ishtar is the one that looks like a Vexor but with mega drone bonuses, the Ishkur is the small frigate with the big nose.

I was talking about the Ishkur, like I said. Taking a HAC into a level 3 mission is akin to using dynamite to kill gophers.

I was too. The thought of using an expensive frigate (no matter how beefy) for L3 missions is a bit scary but worth contemplating. While probably fun, I'm worried the missions will take too long.

Yeah - book a day off work if you start The Blockade in an ishkur.

That's the problem with most of the missions if you want a challange in running them. You could always just try and see how fast you can finish them without looting by taking in ships that just completely outclass the mission, ie you domi into a lvl 3 armed with medium guns as the large one's just won't hit anything for the most part.

Or use a medium sized ship with a massive shield or armor tank...to expand on ZZ's example using cruise missiles might be overkill as well...you can get pretty much the same damage in an L3 with heavies.

So a passive drake, or for the well-heeled and stylish like me, a passive nighthawk will plough through L3's with a minimum of effort and waste. You can fit up a drake for that sort of game for about 45m tops.

The additional timesink in doing L3s in a battleship is the range at which you are taking out the enemy - you can end up with wrecks over a 180km radius or more if you snipe gangs as they appear, which is a bit of a pain for salvaging and looting.

I am just running level 2's just now but I don't think the looting is wortht he time, better to just go back and get another mission

Waltz wrote:

I am just running level 2's just now but I don't think the looting is worth he time, better to just go back and get another mission

Looting is worthless. Salvaging, on the other hand, will make you far more ISK than running additional missions will. It's not until you hit level 4 missions that the option of leaving all loot and salvage in favor of running an additional mission will start to make financial sense.

Running L3s in an assault frigate is fun. I occasionally take out the Jag, or a Wolf, and do one or two. Of course, I also used to rat in 0.0 with a Wolf, so don't assume its a sane way to have fun.

Waltz wrote:

I am just running level 2's just now but I don't think the looting is wortht he time, better to just go back and get another mission

Looting probably isn't worth it for L2's but I would think salvaging is. You'll make more on salvage than the mission reward. I found looting started to make sense in L3's. I looted a number of prototype items that sold in the $3-5 million range. Very good money for a newish player.

don't you need skills to salvage?

Waltz wrote:

don't you need skills to salvage?

Yes, unfortunately

If you salvage after your complete the mission, you generally also need to refit your ship with the salvagers (unless you're a drone guy, then, why not have them equipped).

I actually always found it easier/quicker just to change ships, which also allows you to have to kitted corretly for traveling long distances.

I just leave a desy fitted for salvaging in my alts orca, between the desy and the orcas tractors can clear L4 rooms and sites in no time. I dont like leaving isk behind >.>

With the ingame fitting browser, you can now refit the same ship faster.

I used to run level 3s using a stealthbomber 2 years ago. They allowed cloaking inside the mission sites back then. It was pretty cool that you can activate the entrance, cloak, navigate slowly around, uncloak, lock, launch cruise missiles and cackle maniacally as your paper-thin frigate chews through NPCs.

Now I just do that in wormholes, but with torps and bombs.