Xenoblade - New Monolith RPG for Wii

Was bummed I couldn't save in the area before last boss. Wasn't able to pass the first phase, so now have to reload prior to the boss before to grind up a bit more.

It crossed my mind to YouTube the ending.

couldn't sleep at all last night so I ended up grabbing my 3DS and jumping back into this for an hour or two - was surprised at how easily I slipped right back into playing as if I'd never left it behind (part way through the mines on the way to rescue the kid).

So I guess I'm now playing BOTH xenoblade games at once...I'm sure that'll not be really confusing.

Zoso1701 wrote:

Was bummed I couldn't save in the area before last boss. Wasn't able to pass the first phase, so now have to reload prior to the boss before to grind up a bit more.

It crossed my mind to YouTube the ending.

I had to reload as well, Zoso. But DON'T YOU DARE GIVE UP NOW we're gonna kill the bear beat this game!

p.s. my high-level grinding strats w/late-game spoilers:

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If you can find an area with enemies 5 levels above your party's lowest level, yellow-colored label enemies, you're getting a Lot of XP per kill (15k-20k a pop), a lot more than even named enemies of your level. Once you're in the high seventies (78+) you can't find any enemies above your level in Prison Island, so I returned to old areas to find those crazily-leveled characters I avoided before, specifically the Gogols in the ruins at the east end of Sartorl Marsh who were levels 81-85. Then I was able to transition to Alcomoth to fight all the Telethia there, which start at level 85 and then go up and up to the 90s the farther in you go. They're high levels but not hard to defeat, so I probably gained three levels in half-an-hour in there.

Support group, I've leveled to 84 and...

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am currently on Zanza's second form. My WiiU gamepad is near death. Can't figure out how to switch to TV... Haha

Zoso1701 wrote:

Support group, I've leveled to 84 and...

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am currently on Zanza's second form. My WiiU gamepad is near death. Can't figure out how to switch to TV... Haha

GO GO GO!

Hope you have the cable handy to plug that bad boy in. I can't find anything via a quick google dive on switching back to TV from that mode. :/ edit: actually the Nintendo support page suggests that if you're in "Use TV & Gamepad" mode, the sensor bar should still be active, so if the Gamepad dies I think you should be able to switch to using the TV.

I'm getting ready to go for it too, let's do this.

I DID IT!!!!!!!!! You totally have this Danopian! Go! It's Dan time!

To me!

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Yeeeeeeeaaaaahhh! ...I stayed up to see that from you, man. WE DID IT!!

Congrats you two! Gives me real hope for when I eventually return to this

Thanks! I am amazed at how doable it was, Shop, with just about 5 hours of dedicated grinding. 90 Hours, Level 84 for me.

And as one, we're unbeatable! Credits rolling. Glad we made it through together, Zoso! Jolly co-operation. Shoptroll, please refer to the video I linked earlier today.

Yeah, I kept thinking the whole time, "so this is what it feels like to be appropriately leveled up for a boss fight!" What was that, 20 minutes between my post saying I was going in and when I was done with the last fight? I almost felt bad. I think I only revived one person through that whole stretch.

Felt good! I went with my A-team of Shulk, Reyn and Sharla. Had to bring both Reyn and Sharla back once.

During grinding, I toyed with lots of combos for affinity points.

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Fiora, Dunban and Riki-WHOA! Some crazy powerful moves between those three

Really feeling like I finally learned how to play as Melia was cool, too. This game had so many things that, with enough time, just click.

Did you check out NG+?

88 hours for me, level 84 by the end, but that doesn't count the almost all-nighter I pulled over the weekend trying to beat the game too early and having to reload, or my first 40+ hour attempt that got lost because it was on a borrowed Wii. I think I've been playing this game for almost two-and-a-half years now.

I felt the same way about finally figuring out how to use some people at the very end of the game. In the last fight, I went with

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Shulk, Fiora, and Reyn, they're a fun group. Swapped out Reyn for Sharla at the 2nd form of Zanza because I noticed the healing was necessary.

I set up my NG+ save but didn't start it yet. If I'm masochistic enough to play this more, I'd probably go back and try to figure out the Treasures of the Giants stuff. I stumbled across the next step of it while grinding and it required reaallly high levels to progress through and only appeared to have become available late in the game, so I'd be loading the pre-boss save.

....you gonna buy X now or wait for Christmas?

I am 92% sure X is a Christmas gift from my wife, so I'm waiting. Probably good to have a little breathing room between the two. Looking forward to starting that four year saga as well! You?

Zoso1701 wrote:

I am 92% sure X is a Christmas gift from my wife, so I'm waiting. Probably good to have a little breathing room between the two. Looking forward to starting that four year saga as well! You?

Yeah I think I might wait to get it/buy it with a gift card for Christmas, breathing room sounds good. And I bought a bunch of Steam games in the last sale I'm excited to get to - I've got Ori and the Blind Forest, The Talos Principle, Her Story, and a few others lined up.

Hey - maybe we can beat Ori at the same time, too. That is on my shortlist. Cheers, mate! We really did it. The Future... Is ours to decide!

You are both incredible. Congrats!

It was a good night Clock, thanks!

Thanks, Clock! You're to thank in part too, your call for our 2015 top games lists meant I had to get my act together and finish it so I could include it.

Can someone send a hint to Absurd about a WiiU and XenobladeX? He seems clueless as to what to get me for Christmas...

Congrats! You are now free! Any spoilerific thoughts on the ending?

sometimesdee wrote:

Can someone send a hint to Absurd about a WiiU and XenobladeX? He seems clueless as to what to get me for Christmas... :)

Should I just PM him?

He seems to ignore PMs. I'm pretty sure he has unread PMs that are a few years old!

Drat! What if I attached it to a Steam gift?

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Drat! What if I attached it to a Steam gift?

Hmm, that might work!

PoderOmega wrote:

Congrats! You are now free! Any spoilerific thoughts on the ending?

Yep.

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I liked it a lot. The conclusion felt like it was in keeping with the themes throughout the game of having in a role in creating our destinies and fighting against tyranny; and even though it took several sharp turns in the last 30-40 hours, I didn't feel like the revelations (Alvis being the Monado, Zanza being the soul of the Bionis, Meyneth and Egil being at odds with one another, Dickson being a dick, etc.) were totally out of keeping with what had preceded them. The denouement was shorter than I guessed it might be given how long a journey it's been, but it was sweet and hopeful and I liked it.

To go deeper, and potentially more controversial: as a Christian theology student I'm frequently right in the middle of discussions about free will and determinism, whether or not God can be said to really have given us a meaningful role in life if he (using masculine pronoun for convenience rather than meaningfully) is sovereign over the world, whether our choices mean anything, whether he created us because he needed us in some way or, if not, why -- so I really enjoyed the story digging really deep into those questions even if I don't believe its answers would be mine in our reality with the God that I believe in. Which is to say, if Zanza were the God of our universe, I would want to destroy him and live in a world without such gods as well. But I don't believe my God is like that one in several critical ways -- I believe he is loving, truly desires the best for us, is not overbearing in his authority but gentle and patient, wants us to grow in maturity rather than remain dependent, created us to enjoy life with him though not out of neediness for it on his part, and does not force our hand or predetermine our choices in such a way as to make them meaningless but works through our decisions to bring about what he wants. And, most critically, I believe that he is and was willing to die for our sake rather than being bent on self-preservation at the cost of who he created like Zanza was - more like Meyneth but not with the implication of her story that such a God would have to remove itself in order to allow creation to thrive. So I was able to cheer and holler "KILL ALL THE GODS" and then thank God for letting me finally beat Xenoblade without feeling too hypocritical.

(Which, as an aside, is how I interact with a lot of the fantasy and sci-fi I watch or play or read that involve deities--I'm smack in the middle of Erickson's Malazan series, for instance, and so end up thinking a lot about this topic. I think monotheists can learn a lot from polytheistic stories (and people keep writing them) because it invites these comparisons between these very human gods brought down into stories and a God one might believe in, and they let us think about deity on the level of human interaction, even if by doing so I would argue you lose quite a bit in the translation.)

Coming up for air now-- the scene where Alvis shows Shulk how the world was created and Klaus became Zanza and so forth was really great. I loved that they took the story back to that level of origins instead of leaving it fuzzy, and it made a great capstone to the suspense built up by the trip through the solar system and seeing the flash above Earth.

It made me curious about whether there's some continuity between this game and X - since X involves known nations like the USA and Los Angeles, would it have to be on Earth before the re-creation of the world by Klaus/Zanza? Or, at the end of this game, is the universe re-created along the same lines as how it was before, making either Shulk's planet the new Earth or making another Earth somewhere else? Not having played X yet, I don't know if it hints at this at all, but I did hear that the Nopons are present so I think there's some grounds for this.

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Can't write the novel on the ending, I'd like to write at work, but excellent read there, Dan. As someone who is not very religious, I wonder how those that are interpret stories like these. Your perspective was wonderful to read.

Just have to say while it's on my mind, the near simultaneous completion of a game along with someone across the Internet - interacting only through forum posts and Miiverse messages - well, that was one of the coolest gaming moments for me this year.

Completing Xenoblade was a huge burst in and of itself, but was made even better being able to celebrate the success with a friend. We really did it! And, I am still feeling super pumped about it.

Same here, Zoso! It felt like we turned it into a co-op game and beat it together.

Awesome, congrats you two. Well deserved!