edit: Any forums or sites for Android stuff? I'd like to read some more.
I've been lurking here: http://androidforums.com/
and the T-Mobile site: http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/?cat...
(and I saw DSGamer posting his phone vs. EDGE issue there)
Neither is terribly informative.
Edwin wrote:edit: Any forums or sites for Android stuff? I'd like to read some more.
I've been lurking here: http://androidforums.com/
and the T-Mobile site: http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/?cat...
(and I saw DSGamer posting his phone vs. EDGE issue there)Neither is terribly informative.
Yeah. I bailed on the G1 in the end. I could reproduce it with 100% failure doing YouTube and 50% failure syncing Google. My wife and I were already paying an extra $70 a month for me to be on T-Mobile, so that instantly made it not worth it. Shipped it off to someone who bought it on eBay today. Bought a Sprint phone on Friday so at least I can get calls when the phone is doing Internet stuff.
Bummer. You seemed real happy with the G1 when you had it before the EDGE issue came up.
I have another week or so to decide if I want to keep the G1, or if I'm going to constantly have iPhone-envy, justifiably or not. You know what they say, sometimes the heart just wants what it wants.
Bummer. You seemed real happy with the G1 when you had it before the EDGE issue came up.
I have another week or so to decide if I want to keep the G1, or if I'm going to constantly have iPhone-envy, justifiably or not. You know what they say, sometimes the heart just wants what it wants.
I loved it. I'll probably pounce on one if Sprint ever introduces one. But the marriage between always in the data cloud and an Edge network sucks.
CDMA is fine. I tested it before I went back to Sprint. My cell phone is reachable whenever it's turned on. I like that functionality.
I'm really interested to see what happens when there are competitors with Android phones out there. Hopefully the price stays as cheap as it is for the majority of them and are designed better to what i'd like to see in a phone.
Okay, I'm done. I experimented with the G1 for about a month and decided to give it up over the weekend and go back to my Blackberry Pearl. The G1 didn't add a whole lot more functionality for me over my Pearl, and the few things it did add (web browsing, qwerty keyboard, mp3 player, etc) wasn't all that important to me.
My original idea was to find a device that would replace and combine my phone, my PDA (address and checkbook), and my mp3 player into one. The G1 sort of did it, but I still find myself going back to the separate devices from time to time. Plus it was bulky and the battery life was lackluster (barely lasting a day). It died on me half way through the day when I was out and about in NYC and left me stranded. That more or less push me over the edge.
The G1 is not a bad phone. It's just not really ideal for me. It offered too many bells and whistles that I don't really care about and at the same time under-performed in the areas I do care about. I'm a pretty basic smartphone user and I found myself missing the 'simplicity' of the Pearl. So I'm now in the market for an iPod Touch (hoping to combine the PDA and mp3 player) and trying to find a better home my G1.
Are there any new phones running the Android software yet?
I want Android but the G1 seems a bit bulky to me.
I'm back at the Palm Centro. I need a phone that's a good phone first (so the problem where the G1 won't ring through if you're on the Internet is obviously a deal-killer). That also means it has to have decent battery life. My Centro can go a day and a half with heavy usage. The G1 was barely 8 hours for me. The HTC Touch Pro I tried next was barely 8 hours. Forget it if I tried to listen to music. So I'm resigned to Centro + iPod for the time being.
My original idea was to find a device that would replace and combine my phone, my PDA (address and checkbook), and my mp3 player into one. The G1 sort of did it, but I still find myself going back to the separate devices from time to time.
My Sony Ericsson phones do all that without even being smartphones. On my current W760a, I have:
3G
Great media player
Great phonebook with home/work addresses, company/title/notes fields etc
Robust to-do and calendar, with month/week/day views, reminders, recurring appointments etc
Excellent phone functionality
Very decent web browser
aGPS with Google support, and awesome Tracker and Wayfinder Active fitness software
A very robust Java machine that smoothly runs everything from SEVEN and Opera Mini to all manner of games.
RSS reader, complete with scheduled automatic updates and support for podcast (with OTA downloads!)
Very decent desktop synchronization, including Outlook contacts/appointments/tasks/notes
OTA synchronization with SyncML services! (Funambol)
OTA synchronization with ActiveSync (Exchange!!)
God knows what else I am not remembering right away
all of that in an compact, attractive, pocketable, world-compatible package. There's hardly anything a "smartphone" would provide that I'd be missing. My point is that very often, you don't really need a smartphone -- you just need a good phone.
Hey, Novocain, want to trade my unlocked iPhone for that G1?
Lester - you don't like your iPhone?
My contract is up in two weeks and I was planning on going for the iPhone. G1 was also interesting, but doesn't seem to have garnered quite as much praise.
I'm back at the Palm Centro. I need a phone that's a good phone first (so the problem where the G1 won't ring through if you're on the Internet is obviously a deal-killer). That also means it has to have decent battery life. My Centro can go a day and a half with heavy usage. The G1 was barely 8 hours for me. The HTC Touch Pro I tried next was barely 8 hours. Forget it if I tried to listen to music. So I'm resigned to Centro + iPod for the time being.
I'll still recommend the Nokia E71 for an attempt. I only use it for phone, email, and web but it does all of that pretty well. Battery life is about as good as the Centro. I'm not overly fond of the UI, but it's workable.
(ObDisclosure again: I work for Nokia now. Doesn't mean I'll blindly recommend them but figured I should say.)
I need a phone that's a good phone first (so the problem where the G1 won't ring through if you're on the Internet is obviously a deal-killer).
That's hardly the phone's fault, though.
Yeah, I don't think the iPhone will ring through when you're on the Net either, if you're on the 1G network. Only 3G can do both.
It's poor design; they were able to do call waiting with ANALOG, fer chrissake. There's just no excuse but stupidity for failing to get that right on a packet-switched network.
DSGamer wrote:I need a phone that's a good phone first (so the problem where the G1 won't ring through if you're on the Internet is obviously a deal-killer).
That's hardly the phone's fault, though.
You're right. I have no idea whose fault it is. Likely the network. I'm going to seriously consider Android if it comes to Sprint someday.
SommerMatt wrote:DSGamer wrote:I need a phone that's a good phone first (so the problem where the G1 won't ring through if you're on the Internet is obviously a deal-killer).
That's hardly the phone's fault, though.
You're right. I have no idea whose fault it is. Likely the network. I'm going to seriously consider Android if it comes to Sprint someday.
There's actually two types of Edge networks out there. One will ring through just fine, the other; no dice. Unfortunately you can probably guess which type most of the US uses...
Weird. I'm in Boise, ID (So, not exactly a center for technological innovation.), and my phone will ring through on the internet. That sucks about you having issues though.
On the sunny side, everything I've heard is that sprint is charging ahead with android phones, and they might be next to market with one. (AT&T is probably complacent with the iPhone, Verizon and "open" don't go together, and T-Mobile has one.)
Lester - you don't like your iPhone?
My contract is up in two weeks and I was planning on going for the iPhone. G1 was also interesting, but doesn't seem to have garnered quite as much praise.
No, I like the iphone.
I just like new gadgets more.
Weird. I'm in Boise, ID (So, not exactly a center for technological innovation.), and my phone will ring through on the internet. That sucks about you having issues though.
On the sunny side, everything I've heard is that sprint is charging ahead with android phones, and they might be next to market with one. (AT&T is probably complacent with the iPhone, Verizon and "open" don't go together, and T-Mobile has one.)
Well, as stated earlier, on T-Mobile's network calls will only ring through when you're on 3G. Maybe Boise is small enough/the network good enough that you're always on 3G. I was rarely on 3G here in Portland, Or. so the G1 was a non-starter for me on T-Mobile. Waiting to see what Sprint does as their network is generally better IMHO.
Sprint uses CDMA as stated earlier so they wont have a problem. The issue only happens with ONE type of Edge network.
I know. I've always had great luck with Sprint minus their lagging handset selection.
Edwin wrote:Sprint uses CDMA as stated earlier so they wont have a problem. The issue only happens with ONE type of Edge network.
I know. I've always had great luck with Sprint minus their lagging handset selection.
Don't forget the absolutely crappy customer service!!!
Other than that though, yeah. Hoping they get on the ball shortly.
DSGamer wrote:Edwin wrote:Sprint uses CDMA as stated earlier so they wont have a problem. The issue only happens with ONE type of Edge network.
I know. I've always had great luck with Sprint minus their lagging handset selection.
Don't forget the absolutely crappy customer service!!!
Other than that though, yeah. Hoping they get on the ball shortly.
Odd since they routinely score high.. (or at least they did)
I think part of Sprint's issue is they are completely dragged down by that horrible acquisition of Nextel.
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