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MannishBoy wrote:

I'll probably end up with an S10+, but I've learned it doesn't take long for stores like BB to start offering big discounts. So I'll probably wait until early summer. I'll see how it goes when I get the update for the S8+ soon.

Yeah, the other Galaxy models all dropped in price fast. However, I ended up getting $300 trade in value for my S8 combined with a $50 "employee discount" and a free pair of Samsung wireless buds. So it was worth it for me.

Don't ask me how I got that employee discount as I have no idea. It just appeared on my order. The only thing I can think is I had it shipped to my work address and they might have something set up with Samsung in their employee perks.

EvilDead wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

I'll probably end up with an S10+, but I've learned it doesn't take long for stores like BB to start offering big discounts. So I'll probably wait until early summer. I'll see how it goes when I get the update for the S8+ soon.

Yeah, the other Galaxy models all dropped in price fast. However, I ended up getting $300 trade in value for my S8 combined with a $50 "employee discount" and a free pair of Samsung wireless buds. So it was worth it for me.

Don't ask me how I got that employee discount as I have no idea. It just appeared on my order. The only thing I can think is I had it shipped to my work address and they might have something set up with Samsung in their employee perks.

I didn't think about putting in my work address... oh well!
I went ahead and pre-ordered the S10+ with 1 TB memory. Only getting $150 trade in for my S7 edge, but that's fine. I hate this phone.

Taharka wrote:
EvilDead wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

I'll probably end up with an S10+, but I've learned it doesn't take long for stores like BB to start offering big discounts. So I'll probably wait until early summer. I'll see how it goes when I get the update for the S8+ soon.

Yeah, the other Galaxy models all dropped in price fast. However, I ended up getting $300 trade in value for my S8 combined with a $50 "employee discount" and a free pair of Samsung wireless buds. So it was worth it for me.

Don't ask me how I got that employee discount as I have no idea. It just appeared on my order. The only thing I can think is I had it shipped to my work address and they might have something set up with Samsung in their employee perks.

I didn't think about putting in my work address... oh well!
I went ahead and pre-ordered the S10+ with 1 TB memory. Only getting $150 trade in for my S7 edge, but that's fine. I hate this phone.

That's a crapload of storage for a phone!

I had read that there were supposed to be different options for RAM but I never was presented with them during the order process. Either way I think 6GB will be plenty but it was strange the sites were reporting on that.

EvilDead wrote:
Taharka wrote:
EvilDead wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

I'll probably end up with an S10+, but I've learned it doesn't take long for stores like BB to start offering big discounts. So I'll probably wait until early summer. I'll see how it goes when I get the update for the S8+ soon.

Yeah, the other Galaxy models all dropped in price fast. However, I ended up getting $300 trade in value for my S8 combined with a $50 "employee discount" and a free pair of Samsung wireless buds. So it was worth it for me.

Don't ask me how I got that employee discount as I have no idea. It just appeared on my order. The only thing I can think is I had it shipped to my work address and they might have something set up with Samsung in their employee perks.

I didn't think about putting in my work address... oh well!
I went ahead and pre-ordered the S10+ with 1 TB memory. Only getting $150 trade in for my S7 edge, but that's fine. I hate this phone.

That's a crapload of storage for a phone!

I had read that there were supposed to be different options for RAM but I never was presented with them during the order process. Either way I think 6GB will be plenty but it was strange the sites were reporting on that.

Agreed. It's way more than I'll need. I'm overcompensating for my current phone's 32gb storage, which has been a source of frustration since day 1, two years ago.

Frankly with everything going to streaming anymore I'm surprised that phone storage keeps going up. I'm only using 37GB of the 65GB and I keep 1000+ songs on my phone. Of course I also just realized that I'm conflating storage with memory. I have no idea how much memory my Pixel 3 has.

Nevin73 wrote:

Frankly with everything going to streaming anymore I'm surprised that phone storage keeps going up. I'm only using 37GB of the 65GB and I keep 1000+ songs on my phone. Of course I also just realized that I'm conflating storage with memory. I have no idea how much memory my Pixel 3 has.

I'm using 200gb on my phone between the on board and SD. Lot of audiobooks and podcasts, plus some video.

I could live with less, but it would require me to administer content. Why bother if you don't have to?

MannishBoy wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

Frankly with everything going to streaming anymore I'm surprised that phone storage keeps going up. I'm only using 37GB of the 65GB and I keep 1000+ songs on my phone. Of course I also just realized that I'm conflating storage with memory. I have no idea how much memory my Pixel 3 has.

I'm using 200gb on my phone between the on board and SD. Lot of audiobooks and podcasts, plus some video.

I could live with less, but it would require me to administer content. Why bother if you don't have to?

That's my logic going into this purchase, basically. Or rather, I'm tired of administering content.

MannishBoy wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

Frankly with everything going to streaming anymore I'm surprised that phone storage keeps going up. I'm only using 37GB of the 65GB and I keep 1000+ songs on my phone. Of course I also just realized that I'm conflating storage with memory. I have no idea how much memory my Pixel 3 has.

I'm using 200gb on my phone between the on board and SD. Lot of audiobooks and podcasts, plus some video.

I could live with less, but it would require me to administer content. Why bother if you don't have to?

To add to that the new ultra HD / 60 + FPS capable cameras are making videos with enormous file sizes. I just had to move my camera save folder over to the SD card because I filled up the 64GB of onboard storage on the S8.

EvilDead wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

Frankly with everything going to streaming anymore I'm surprised that phone storage keeps going up. I'm only using 37GB of the 65GB and I keep 1000+ songs on my phone. Of course I also just realized that I'm conflating storage with memory. I have no idea how much memory my Pixel 3 has.

I'm using 200gb on my phone between the on board and SD. Lot of audiobooks and podcasts, plus some video.

I could live with less, but it would require me to administer content. Why bother if you don't have to?

To add to that the new ultra HD / 60 + FPS capable cameras are making videos with enormous file sizes. I just had to move my camera save folder over to the SD card because I filled up the 64GB of onboard storage on the S8.

Yeah, 64 gig gets eaten up pretty quickly with ultra HD video.

I used to consume lots of memory for photos and videos but with Google Photos by the end of the day everything is uploaded in full resolution and deleted from local storage. Between games and music I barely every have half of the 512GB my phone has.. I could probably be fine with 256GB here on out.

I'm in the same boat, I don't worry about storage one iota. Though I do tend to uninstall stuff I no longer use because it sucks up RAM and whatnot in a bad way. Android still doesn't seem particularly good at keeping itself running well.

I just like to have photos local because whenever I delete them off the device, and want to show someone something, I always seem to be in a spot with bad wifi / cellular data.

Also, I might need to upgrade my 100 GB google storage plan soon. That's pretty close to full.

Yeah even with Fi and unlimited storage I keep pics and vids on my Pixel. I guess I'm weird.

Before I complain about Android 9 I need to make sure it's stock Android and not Oxygen OS on my OnePlus. Before the update it was practically stock with a few modifications but I'm not sure about post update.

Has Android went to the IOS multitask "feature" where the are tiled horizontally instead of stacked vertically?

EverythingsTentative wrote:

Before I complain about Android 9 I need to make sure it's stock Android and not Oxygen OS on my OnePlus. Before the update it was practically stock with a few modifications but I'm not sure about post update.

Has Android went to the IOS multitask "feature" where the are tiled horizontally instead of stacked vertically?

correct, it has went.

Okay then, WTF? How is that supposed to be better? That change has made app switching significantly slower. I really want to know why they thought this better? And why can't I change Media/Ring/Notification sounds from the home screen now? I have to now open settings. Why can I no longer choose my audio out from the notification drop down anymore? I don't think I have ever wanted to downgrade before as much as I do now.

I'm going to have to go back to my Android 5 ways where I had separate apps that did specific system functions better than stock.

Yeah. I've been busy updating my daughter's new Moto X4 ($150 on sale!) while we wait for her case to come in. After updating it to Pie the interface changes seem pretty annoying. Could be that they're just different from what I'm used to and they'll seem better with time, but right now they seem like changes made purely to make things different.

I've never been a fan of any rolodex type app switching. It's annoying to use when I'm doing something active only only slightly less annoying when stationary. Give me tiles any day of the week.

Yeah the new audio switching is a pain in the ass.

EvilDead wrote:

I've never been a fan of any rolodex type app switching. It's annoying to use when I'm doing something active only only slightly less annoying when stationary. Give me tiles any day of the week.

Better yet, give me options. Fine,you want to make it easier to switch from IOS? Great! Give me an option to switch back though.

Pixel 3's are on sale at Verizon (-$300) and on Google's site (-$200) right now. With trade in (of her Pixel 1) got my wife a Pixel 3 for $600. Nice! Didn't expect this kind of deal till this summer.

garion333 wrote:

Pixel 3's are on sale at Verizon (-$300) and on Google's site (-$200) right now. With trade in (of her Pixel 1) got my wife a Pixel 3 for $600. Nice! Didn't expect this kind of deal till this summer.

Did I miss something when the trade in options got pretty decent?

I got 3 a tad early because my V20 boot locked.

Nice to know that if I don't explode my 3 that I can probably get a Pixel 5 two years for now on trade in + waiting couple months.

My spouse's bonus and promotion bought us a pair of Pixel 3's during the Buy one get one almost half off sale just a week prior to this current sale. Kind of annoying because buying now we would have gotten $25 more off per phone and would have been able make individual orders and trade in both old phones instead of just the one. *Shrug* Spare, freshly refurbed Pixel I guess.

jowner wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Pixel 3's are on sale at Verizon (-$300) and on Google's site (-$200) right now. With trade in (of her Pixel 1) got my wife a Pixel 3 for $600. Nice! Didn't expect this kind of deal till this summer.

Did I miss something when the trade in options got pretty decent?

I got 3 a tad early because my V20 boot locked.

Nice to know that if I don't explode my 3 that I can probably get a Pixel 5 two years for now on trade in + waiting couple months.

Man, I really hope Google spreads out to more carriers. There are so many people in my family that are interested in getting a Pixel because they love my photos and are tires of iOS but once they see that they have to buy the phone upfront unlocked they just nope out of it. It's really hindering Googles sales.

What do you mean? Verizon and Google both have interest free credit options.

garion333 wrote:

What do you mean? Verizon and Google both have interest free credit options.

They are on ATT and Sprint and like Huawei said a few months ago, if you don't have a carrier deal in America you are basically dead.

Googles interest-free credit is basically opening a new Credit card so it's not an appealing option for a lot of people.

Tempest wrote:
garion333 wrote:

What do you mean? Verizon and Google both have interest free credit options.

They are on ATT and Sprint and like Huawei said a few months ago, if you don't have a carrier deal in America you are basically dead.

Googles interest-free credit is basically opening a new Credit card so it's not an appealing option for a lot of people.

Yeah, Google Store would be another LoC/CC. Open it once, buy Pixels every other year. They don't want to get on that train?

I have no idea why there's even a carrier version for Verizon. It's so strange to have them and no one else, but also to have the phone available through Google, unlike the old AT&T-iPhone exclusivity.

garion333 wrote:

I have no idea why there's even a carrier version for Verizon. It's so strange to have them and no one else, but also to have the phone available through Google, unlike the old AT&T-iPhone exclusivity.

You probably do, but I'll say it: Because a whole lot of people only want to buy phones from their carriers, and Verizon can keep the phone locked on their network as long as the user owes something on it.

The first can be out of ignorance (don't know they can buy unlocked phones) or a sense of comfort (it's what they're used to). Both are good reasons for Verizon to want to do it though.

EDIT: I forgot to explicitly say that what Verizon did was make a deal with Google to have this sort of 'exclusive' for the past 3 years.

LouZiffer wrote:
garion333 wrote:

I have no idea why there's even a carrier version for Verizon. It's so strange to have them and no one else, but also to have the phone available through Google, unlike the old AT&T-iPhone exclusivity.

You probably do, but I'll say it: Because a whole lot of people only want to buy phones from their carriers, and Verizon can keep the phone locked on their network as long as the user owes something on it.

The first can be out of ignorance (don't know they can buy unlocked phones) or a sense of comfort (it's what they're used to). Both are good reasons for Verizon to want to do it though.

EDIT: I forgot to explicitly say that what Verizon did was make a deal with Google to have this sort of 'exclusive' for the past 3 years.

Oh, I get why Verizon wanted to do this, I'm just not sure why it was done in this weird half ass way with only Verizon selling it, but it not actually being an exclusive. Seems like a bit of wasted money on Verizon's part, not that they care, and not enough money coming to Google.

It's nuts to me that people still walk into stores to buy phones and be upsold, but it's even more nuts to me that Google brought out a premium phone at a premium price and then locked it to 1/4 of the major market. But I'm not a marketing person, perhaps the fake exclusivity deal money from Verizon is worth more than selling AT&T, etc., versions also.

garion333 wrote:

It's nuts to me that people still walk into stores to buy phones and be upsold, but it's even more nuts to me that Google brought out a premium phone at a premium price and then locked it to 1/4 of the major market. But I'm not a marketing person, perhaps the fake exclusivity deal money from Verizon is worth more than selling AT&T, etc., versions also.

That's nuts to me, too. However, the continued brick and mortar proliferation of stores shows it's still viable. Regarding the market, Verizon is edging toward 35%. A leeeeetle bit ahead of AT&T. Double that of T-Mo. This multi-year agreement is a small component in an overall strategy which helps bolster that position. I'm willing to bet Verizon offered can't-say-no amounts of money to Google for it.