Google Android catch-all

EriktheRed wrote:

I've been pretty unintentionally abusive with my S8+ that I've owned since launch, and it is holding up really well. I have no major scratches or anything I can see despite not using a screen protector.

None of my scratches are major. They are actually barely noticeable but once I saw them they couldn't be unseen. It actually seems to be an issue specifically with GG 5.

EriktheRed wrote:

I've been pretty unintentionally abusive with my S8+ that I've owned since launch, and it is holding up really well. I have no major scratches or anything I can see despite not using a screen protector.

Same... Only scratches I got was dropping it once facedown on a gravel path, but they're tiny enough I never see them in normal use. They are pretty glaring with the VR headset on though.

My daughter still uses my old S5. My main problem with my own old Note2 is that the screen got busted and apparently no one sells spare parts for those anymore.

I don’t get Google’s approach to the OS upgrade path. I’m hearing discussions around the next OS after 8.0 and I’m sitting on Galaxy’s 8’s of all types that are still running some version of 7.0.

Are the OS upgrades just not that important to Android as they are for iOS?

TheGameguru wrote:

I don’t get Google’s approach to the OS upgrade path. I’m hearing discussions around the next OS after 8.0 and I’m sitting on Galaxy’s 8’s of all types that are still running some version of 7.0.

Are the OS upgrades just not that important to Android as they are for iOS?

Apple has it (edit: okay... RELATIVELY) easy. I've compiled Android for various devices, and I understand manufacturers' pain.

Android releases are far more complicated and costly to compile, release, and support due to the variety of devices/hardware that the OS can support. Other than security and perhaps an initial year or two of interim updates, most manufacturers grant any given device a single major upgrade (named Android version) before abandoning it. You're lucky if your device gets two.

EDIT: TL/DR - New versions of Android are a PITA to get working correctly on any given device. It takes time, testing, and lots of tweaking. Multiply that pain by the number of devices.

Well, if Samsung didn't take Android and add in 100 more of their own programs and visual tweaks then it probably wouldn't be difficult to upgrade to newer Android versions. Couple in the extra cameras and sensors Samsung puts in and it's a giant headache for them.

garion333 wrote:

Well, if Samsung didn't take Android and add in 100 more of their own programs and visual tweaks then it probably wouldn't be difficult to upgrade to newer Android versions. Couple in the extra cameras and sensors Samsung puts in and it's a giant headache for them.

Heck yeah. My experience has been with LineageOS (was CyanogenMod), nVidia open source kernels, Nexus devices, and also Samsung's open source kernels on the Samsung Moment (before TouchWiz was a thing). All of that is stock Android or close to it, and it has all been a pain to deal with even when I had ready-made drivers for the hardware. Compiling Android is a relatively easy thing which anyone can do. Getting a new version 100% working on a device for the first time... ain't.

Anyone have experience with wireless charging add-ons to the phone? The pixel 2 doesn't have this feature but you can buy a wireless powered receiver sticker for the back to go under the case and plug in to the charger.

Would love to know if they work well or if anyone has a recommended one.

TheGameguru wrote:

I don’t get Google’s approach to the OS upgrade path. I’m hearing discussions around the next OS after 8.0 and I’m sitting on Galaxy’s 8’s of all types that are still running some version of 7.0.

Are the OS upgrades just not that important to Android as they are for iOS?

Project Treble theoretically should help things going forward, where they're abstracting things a layer to allow upgrades without having to redo all the low level stuff that manufacturers seem to take months to complete. I think the phones released with 8.1 and forward will have to support that, but that doesn't fix the ones that are older than that, or even including things like last years S8's, who upgrade to 8.0 without support for Treble.

On the other hand, a majority of google's features are in the apps, not the OS these days. iOS is playing catch up in that regard. I'm constantly getting update to Google apps and Google Services that upgrade functionality. Some of the things you get with these upgrades would take a major release of the OS for iOS.

Hobear wrote:

Anyone have experience with wireless charging add-ons to the phone? The pixel 2 doesn't have this feature but you can buy a wireless powered receiver sticker for the back to go under the case and plug in to the charger.

Would love to know if they work well or if anyone has a recommended one.

I personally don't feel the need to bother, but I have noticed that none of my chargers other than the supplied one will do the rapid charging on the Pixel 2. Do you know what the deal with that is? Most of the USB plugs I have are of the higher amperage, so I'm not sure what it takes to get rapid charging. The thing charges fast enough regardless, so I'm not all that bothered. I get over a day out of the phone typically even if I don't charge.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Hobear wrote:

Anyone have experience with wireless charging add-ons to the phone? The pixel 2 doesn't have this feature but you can buy a wireless powered receiver sticker for the back to go under the case and plug in to the charger.

Would love to know if they work well or if anyone has a recommended one.

I personally don't feel the need to bother, but I have noticed that none of my chargers other than the supplied one will do the rapid charging on the Pixel 2. Do you know what the deal with that is? Most of the USB plugs I have are of the higher amperage, so I'm not sure what it takes to get rapid charging. The thing charges fast enough regardless, so I'm not all that bothered. I get over a day out of the phone typically even if I don't charge.

I use mine a lot for work calls. Kills it slightly faster. But I came from Motorola which despite other issues had battery for dayzzzzz. I have not checked my other rapid charger against it yet, only had it for a week. I really enjoy wireless charging to easily toss it on and zap it a bit.

I have my old moto rapid charger and can give it a comparison for you.

Hobear wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Hobear wrote:

Anyone have experience with wireless charging add-ons to the phone? The pixel 2 doesn't have this feature but you can buy a wireless powered receiver sticker for the back to go under the case and plug in to the charger.

Would love to know if they work well or if anyone has a recommended one.

I personally don't feel the need to bother, but I have noticed that none of my chargers other than the supplied one will do the rapid charging on the Pixel 2. Do you know what the deal with that is? Most of the USB plugs I have are of the higher amperage, so I'm not sure what it takes to get rapid charging. The thing charges fast enough regardless, so I'm not all that bothered. I get over a day out of the phone typically even if I don't charge.

I use mine a lot for work calls. Kills it slightly faster. But I came from Motorola which despite other issues had battery for dayzzzzz. I have not checked my other rapid charger against it yet, only had it for a week. I really enjoy wireless charging to easily toss it on and zap it a bit.

I have my old moto rapid charger and can give it a comparison for you.

I actually don't even know how the whole "rapid" charging thing works. Yeah, I remember thinking the Pixel 2 would have wireless charging and that would be nice at work. Ah well.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Hobear wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Hobear wrote:

Anyone have experience with wireless charging add-ons to the phone? The pixel 2 doesn't have this feature but you can buy a wireless powered receiver sticker for the back to go under the case and plug in to the charger.

Would love to know if they work well or if anyone has a recommended one.

I personally don't feel the need to bother, but I have noticed that none of my chargers other than the supplied one will do the rapid charging on the Pixel 2. Do you know what the deal with that is? Most of the USB plugs I have are of the higher amperage, so I'm not sure what it takes to get rapid charging. The thing charges fast enough regardless, so I'm not all that bothered. I get over a day out of the phone typically even if I don't charge.

I use mine a lot for work calls. Kills it slightly faster. But I came from Motorola which despite other issues had battery for dayzzzzz. I have not checked my other rapid charger against it yet, only had it for a week. I really enjoy wireless charging to easily toss it on and zap it a bit.

I have my old moto rapid charger and can give it a comparison for you.

I actually don't even know how the whole "rapid" charging thing works. Yeah, I remember thinking the Pixel 2 would have wireless charging and that would be nice at work. Ah well.

Rapid charging involves harnessing the power of thousands of nano gerbils in wheels....

Here is an example of what I am referring to.

My Google rapid charger did 28% in 28 minutes increase. I will try against my Motorola turbo charge tomorrow.

My Motorola turbo charger did 22% charge in 37 minutes and didn't list as fast charging.

A little over a week ago I noticed the case on my phone (Galaxy S7) wasn't fitting quite right. Taking it off revealed that the battery had swollen and was pushing the back glass out. I used a thin plastic card from my wallet to cut the adhesive that was stretching on one side, releasing pressure on the glass so it wouldn't break.

Lots and lots of research later I discovered:
- The phone is 1 month out of warranty (13 months old). This appears to be a fairly common time to have this happen (if it does).
- Samsung will do a replacement for $70 (12-16 day turnaround - I pay shipping).
- Best Buy will do a replacement for $50 (only one store in Florida is a Samsung repair depot... in Orlando).
- Other places charge $125-150.
- I can buy a kit myself and try a self-repair for $30 shipped.

The hard part is usually the adhesive, which often takes a heat gun to soften. Since I had one side taken care of and open about 20mm, I was pretty confident the self-repair kit wouldn't even need my heat gun.

Carrying the phone around with one side open was unnerving, but it survived the week. Today the repair kit was waiting for me when we got back from vacation. It took about 45 minutes going slowly. That was WITH disassembling/assembling the innards twice after the display wouldn't work during testing (I had detached it while taking the thing apart - whoops - easy fix).

I broke the factory seal, so I doubt my phone is waterproof anymore. Still it's nice to know this is an option now, especially since Kaycee and Keaton have the same model.

Motherf*ckers should be fixing any battery problems for free.

Damn right, Kurrelgyre. I loved my S4, but this experience is enough for me to say this is my last Samsung unless they go back to easily replaceable batteries at some pont. I was on the fence about getting phones with the battery sealed in, but Sprint gave them to us as free upgrades. Ideally I'd like a phone which would last at least 4 years total, with maybe a battery replacement halfway. This thing barely made it past 1 before the battery blew up like a balloon.

A couple of specks of dust have somehow finagled their way inside the camera of my first-gen Pixel XL, it seems. Most of the time it isn't noticeable but if there is a light background at the bottom middle of my photo you can see two dark circles. This is the

This wouldn't bother me so much except that a couple weeks ago there was only one dust speck/dark circle. I know the phone is still under warranty so I could get it replaced for just the nominal device protection deductible. When it was only one speck I didn't think it was worth the bother and $90, now I'm not so sure.

This is the seventh smartphone I've owned and the first one where I've ever had a problem with foreign matter getting inside the camera. I used to be sort of puzzled when I would hear phones advertised as waterproof and "dustproof"...

First my wife got the Nexus 5X bootloop issue. Sent it off to LG and they fixed it. A couple weeks later, the same thing happened to my son's phone. Same deal, sent it off to LG, they fixed it. One week later, his power button just stopped working, so, of course, back to LG again. Can't wait for my daughter's phone to implode here shortly, so glad I bought three of those pieces of crap.

Middcore wrote:

A couple of specks of dust have somehow finagled their way inside the camera of my first-gen Pixel XL, it seems. Most of the time it isn't noticeable but if there is a light background at the bottom middle of my photo you can see two dark circles. This is the

This wouldn't bother me so much except that a couple weeks ago there was only one dust speck/dark circle. I know the phone is still under warranty so I could get it replaced for just the nominal device protection deductible. When it was only one speck I didn't think it was worth the bother and $90, now I'm not so sure.

This is the seventh smartphone I've owned and the first one where I've ever had a problem with foreign matter getting inside the camera. I used to be sort of puzzled when I would hear phones advertised as waterproof and "dustproof"...

If it's under warranty why do you have to pay anything? Warranty claims should be free.

garion333 wrote:
Middcore wrote:

A couple of specks of dust have somehow finagled their way inside the camera of my first-gen Pixel XL, it seems. Most of the time it isn't noticeable but if there is a light background at the bottom middle of my photo you can see two dark circles. This is the

This wouldn't bother me so much except that a couple weeks ago there was only one dust speck/dark circle. I know the phone is still under warranty so I could get it replaced for just the nominal device protection deductible. When it was only one speck I didn't think it was worth the bother and $90, now I'm not so sure.

This is the seventh smartphone I've owned and the first one where I've ever had a problem with foreign matter getting inside the camera. I used to be sort of puzzled when I would hear phones advertised as waterproof and "dustproof"...

If it's under warranty why do you have to pay anything? Warranty claims should be free.

It's not really a warranty, although that's what they've apparently trained their customer service people to call it. It's device protection, what used to be called Nexus Protect:

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