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Also, you can connect a Kindle to your tablet. It'll show up as a USB device, and you can simply copy files into the book directory. I forget what it's called, but it's pretty obvious.

So if you use Calibre to make sure all your books are in both ePub and .mobi, it'll be easy to transfer stuff to and from your Kindle. I don't even bother removing the ePub files. My Kindle just ignores them, and I've never come close to using up all the space.

I'm using an Asus TF300 and a Kindle 2, so your mileage may vary. If there was a Calibre equivalent for Android, I think I could actually ditch my laptop.

Not the same thing as an Orwellian big brother agency, or them powering on your device and erasing stuff while you're not paying attention, but whatever.

Well, remember that they just accused some woman in Norway of 'being associated with' someone they had deemed as Bad, and they suspended her account and deleted all her books off her Kindle. And she didn't have to actively do anything for this to happen, she just left her wireless on, and her Kindle automatically synced and then wiped out her local library. Having the wireless on is the default configuration, and you know how people are about changing defaults.

I'd say the characterization of 'reaches into and deletes' is pretty fair. That's how it worked for this lady, and how it works for most folks that rely on Amazon as their source for books.

Note that, after there was enough worldwide anger, she got her books back, but if there hadn't been a whole lot of angry people, Amazon would have screwed her over and given her the finger when she complained.

Lots of interesting stuff in Google's Nexus announcements today: a 32GB 3G version of the Nexus 7, a new 10" Nexus 10 tablet from Samsung, and the widely-rumoured 4.7" Nexus 4 phone from LG. The most impressive thing in all this is the aggressive pricing -- the Nexus 10 undercuts the Retina iPad by a good US$100 despite having an even sharper screen, and the 16GB Nexus 4 directly replaces the Galaxy Nexus at $349, with an 8GB model available for just $299. The new devices ship with Android 4.2, which among other things adds a Swype-style keyboard, and multi-user features for tablet users

As always, The Verge has the goods:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3...

The pricing on the Nexus 4 in particular seems like a very careful play on Google's part -- selling phones direct to consumers avoids the whole issue of carrier-delayed OS updates. Selling direct would just be a nice idea in theory if you were looking at $600 up-front for the device, but at $300-350, the idea of buying a phone outright and then saving long-term with a cheaper phone service becomes much more appealing. The Galaxy Nexus was already a great deal despite its age, so being able to buy what appears to be a far more powerful device for the same price is very cool.

The Nexus 4 not having LTE seems to make it nearly DOA if you're not on Tmobile where you don't care about it, and no CDMA version to get on Verizon and Sprint is also not helping.

The Nexus 10 is currently now my go-to device ousting the Surface or windows 8 devices.
I don't care about it not having a full sized USB or the expandable storage.
I'll get myself a big USB stick and I already have the MicroUSB to USB adapter on the way for my S3.

I already have an Acer Iconia 10 inch that will go to my son so I already have an idea how it will fit into my little ecosystem. It will fit perfectly. I don't need to re-invest in more apps. I will store all my media on a stick or portable drive, heck i already have all my movies on a portable drive!

The 300ppi dislplay is glorious. the thinness and tactile back is perfect.

That Verge video sold it for me (i came here to post it). I'll be pre-ordering and hopefully taking delivery on the 13th.
I just hope the accessories will be plentiful I was looking forward to a nifty keyboard/cover like the RT has but alas I'll settle for just a nice cover. The one they feature in the Verge video looked awkward. I hope other designs will be available.

It will be my first Nexus device so I am quite excited.

WOOT

MannishBoy wrote:

The Nexus 4 not having LTE seems to make it nearly DOA if you're not on Tmobile where you don't care about it, and no CDMA version to get on Verizon and Sprint is also not helping.

The lack of LTE is annoying, but in return, you get a single device that can work at 3G or HSPA+ speeds on just about any network in the world with absolutely zero hassle. The big issue with LTE seems to be carrier control in the US: LTE on Verizon or Sprint means having to deal with CDMA, and neither network would allow Google to keep free reign over the firmware of a CDMA device. You can see that in action today, with the LTE Galaxy Nexus devices on Sprint and Verizon getting their 4.1 updates months after unlocked GSM devices received it. There's some discussion of all that here:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3...

Android Police has some further speculation on this, focused on the Nexus 4's most competitive feature -- its price:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/10...

If you really want LTE, then you'll have to skip the Nexus, but if you just want a great phone with 3G service at a bargain price, it's a great option. With an unlocked phone you're not tied to one network -- you can go with a cheap prepaid service on whatever carrier offers the best service in your area, and if you're interstate or overseas and want to swap to a different carrier, it's trivial to do. That's the market that Google seems to be chasing with this, and I guess we'll just have to wait and see how big that market ends up being.

Some more info on Android 4.2 features here:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/10...

It's a shame they don't have a screenshot of the new quick settings panel, because it look like a great addition; you can see it in action if you watch The Verge's behind-the-scenes video. You open it by doing a two-finger swipe down from the top of the screen.

I want, nay, I desire that Nexus 4. Just a few years ago, I thought 800x480 was incredible. Now we're up to 1280x768. I love the direction that screens are going. Higher resolutions are wonderful. So much detail... so much that can be seen in so little space...

Anyways, I'm tired of my Iphone 4, so hopefully I'll pick this up in a few months. Best part is, doesn't matter if I'm on contract or not, I can use it without worrying.

Yeah, probably going to sell off my OneX and pick up the Nexus 4...

Malor wrote:

Having the wireless on is the default configuration, and you know how people are about changing defaults.

I'd say the characterization of 'reaches into and deletes' is pretty fair. That's how it worked for this lady, and how it works for most folks that rely on Amazon as their source for books.

Note that, after there was enough worldwide anger, she got her books back, but if there hadn't been a whole lot of angry people, Amazon would have screwed her over and given her the finger when she complained.

I was actually alluding to that case.

It's fair if you don't care about accuracy.

The average user's ignorance, dumb automated systems, and poor customer service are not the same as someone remotely browsing your device and removing files, which is the picture that characterization paints.

There's a new Padfone 2 coming out. http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/25/asus-padfone-2-review/

I'm interested because I'm beginning to acquire a laughable number of gadgets in my backpack. With the Padfone 2 I think I could replace my point-and-shoot camera, iPod, mobile phone, and laptop.

I've been experimenting with transitioning to a tablet from my netbook, and for the most part I can pull it off. And if Microsoft releases Word for Android, my prayers will be answered. Kingsoft is good, but I miss a few key features.

Malor wrote:
Not the same thing as an Orwellian big brother agency, or them powering on your device and erasing stuff while you're not paying attention, but whatever.

Well, remember that they just accused some woman in Norway of 'being associated with' someone they had deemed as Bad, and they suspended her account and deleted all her books off her Kindle. And she didn't have to actively do anything for this to happen, she just left her wireless on, and her Kindle automatically synced and then wiped out her local library.

That's not exactly what happened -- she lost access to her content because her Kindle broke, not because Amazon deleted the content. Of course, with her account suspended, and no local copy of the content on a working device, she wasn't able to access the content any more. That's almost as bad (or even arguably as bad) as deleting her content, but I think it's important to get all the details right when discussing these things.

EDIT: here's the source on that: http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/sim...

Hmmm.... I'm due for a new phone, but I'm torn between the Nexus 4 and Samsung Galaxy Note II. On one hand I really like the idea of a straight up Google phone, but the Note II looks like it has a lot of cool features (mostly to do w/ the stylus). Also the Note has a much larger screen, but I'm not sure if that's a plus or a minus at this point. I'll have to go find one of the original Galaxy Note phones at a store and see if I like the bigness.

That being said, I should be getting a nice work bonus for going in the field for a month over thanksgiving and I think the first thing I'm doing when I get back is ordering a Nexus 10. I've got a crap ton of RPG PDFs and I'm betting they will look glorious on that screen.

Sad to see the Nexus 4 is not using Super AMOLED. I love the near total blacks the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus can do.

on another note, what's the point of putting anything higher than a 720p display on a phone? I hear talk of manufacturers working on 1080p displays now, but 300dpi is pretty much the limit of human vision, so why bother? You get dimmer pixels, lower battery life, and need more power to achieve usable framerates.

Radical Ans wrote:

Also the Note has a much larger screen, but I'm not sure if that's a plus or a minus at this point. I'll have to go find one of the original Galaxy Note phones at a store and see if I like the bigness.

Tell me about it. As someone who had an HTC Incredible, 3.7", and then an Iphone which was smaller at 3.5", if I end up going to a 4.6" screen, it's going to feel enormous. Going over 5" and I think I will feel silly holding that up to my face trying to talk on it. It's getting near tablet sized.

That said, the Note does look wicked awesome.

Chairman_Mao wrote:

on another note, what's the point of putting anything higher than a 720p display on a phone? I hear talk of manufacturers working on 1080p displays now, but 300dpi is pretty much the limit of human vision, so why bother? You get dimmer pixels, lower battery life, and need more power to achieve usable framerates.

I don't remember seeing any tests on what human vision is limited to, but to me, higher resolution just means more detail. Of course, you will need higher-resolution images and programs, but it's always nice to have the option.

As for games, I'm sure if FPS is a problem, resolution should eventually be able to be scaled, just like on a monitor and PC.

I could also be mistaken, but I don't know if a higher resolution would actually lower the battery power, unless it is taking more processing power to display constantly. But isn't the power draw on screens because of the backlight?

So I now live and work where there is no cell phone reception and want to reevaluate my t-mobile plan to get something cheaper. I have been looking at Ting.com and think I am going to give it a try. Does anyone have any experience with them?

I am looking for a phone to use when I am not at the castle. In the last month I used about 30 min of talk and about 150mb of data across my wife and I. With ting it looks like I can get a cheap/simple android phone that would allow tethering for about $60 for the phone and then $12 for our current data usage. For now we would continue using our old phones on wifi here at the castle for e-mail, calendars, etc and just take the other one when we go out. In time I would look to getting a new nice phone for myself but my wife doesn't really need/want a high end phone. They are talking like they will allow devices not purchased from them over the next few months. If this works the first months savings would cover the cost of the new phone.

Citizen86 wrote:

I could also be mistaken, but I don't know if a higher resolution would actually lower the battery power, unless it is taking more processing power to display constantly. But isn't the power draw on screens because of the backlight?

More power because smaller pixels = less light getting through, so a brighter backlight is required to achieve the same brightness. But also just to make sure animations remain smooth when you swipe, more pixels to manage means more processor power is needed. Even as processors become more efficient a 720p screen will always be 1/2 as many pixels to push as a 1080p screen. I'd rather have longer battery life than any resolution above 300ppi, which I'm pretty sure most people can't distinguish without putting their faces right up to it..

MonoCheli wrote:

ting.com

I haven't heard of them until now. Seems like the most customizable plans though, which can be great for some, like yourself. They really get you on data though. I just got my wife a Virgin Mobile HTC One V and a $35 a month plan. 300 minutes, but she probably won't go over that, with unlimited texting and 2.5g uncapped data.

Best part is she gets great reception in our new apartment, while my AT&T phone cuts in and out, people can barely hear me. If I wasn't on contract, I'd switch to VM with her.

If you didn't use much data, I'd say ting might be a pretty decent buy. The hotspot and tethering options included are pretty cool though.

Chairman_Mao wrote:

I'd rather have longer battery life than any resolution above 300ppi, which I'm pretty sure most people can't distinguish without putting their faces right up to it..

Is this not how people use their phones? AM I DOING IT WRONG?!

@ Malor & unntrlaffinity

Thanks for the eBook guidance guys. I didn't realize Calibre would also transfer them to the Nexus. Now I just need my power to come back so I can boot up the PC and do the transfer.

farley3k wrote:

Spec comparison for the new 10" Nexus, iPad, Galaxy Note, and Kindle Fire HD

The Nexus 10 is looking better and better.

Got myself a Nexus 7 and I love it. Now that I'm reading about the Nexus 10, I need to find a way to stop any impulse purchase for a few months until a 3G/LTE version is announced.

Can't wait for the N7 to get 4.2.

unntrlaffinity wrote:

There's a new Padfone 2 coming out. http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/25/asus-padfone-2-review/

I'm interested because I'm beginning to acquire a laughable number of gadgets in my backpack. With the Padfone 2 I think I could replace my point-and-shoot camera, iPod, mobile phone, and laptop.

I've been experimenting with transitioning to a tablet from my netbook, and for the most part I can pull it off. And if Microsoft releases Word for Android, my prayers will be answered. Kingsoft is good, but I miss a few key features.

I too want one sooooo bad. Now if they could just get it released here in the States; I blame the cellphone carriers on this. I don't have need for a tablet except for when I travel for work, it would be nice on the plane. Never having to transfer/sync/update stuff on two devices would be awesome.

I am holding off on upgrading my cell phone/changing carriers until I here who gets it in the states. So help me if it is a VZW exclusive; I don't know what I would do then?

I sold my Nexus 7 wifi for $190 today and hope to pickup a Nexus 7 32 GB with 3G.

Edwin wrote:

I sold my Nexus 7 wifi for $190 today and hope to pickup a Nexus 7 32 GB with 3G.

Was that the 16gb version? If it was an 8gb, you got a real good deal on that sale!

Yeah, 16 GB.

RolandofGilead wrote:

The programmer in me is happy it has 2 GB of RAM but is bummed it's dual core and not quad core.

FWIW, that dual-core is gonna be a lot faster than the quad-core in the Nexus 7. Not yet sure how it'll compare to the quad-core Snapdragon in the Nexus 4, though -- it may turn out to be the faster device overall, at least for things that can use all four cores.

TigerBill wrote:
unntrlaffinity wrote:

There's a new Padfone 2 coming out. http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/25/asus-padfone-2-review/

I'm interested because I'm beginning to acquire a laughable number of gadgets in my backpack. With the Padfone 2 I think I could replace my point-and-shoot camera, iPod, mobile phone, and laptop.

I've been experimenting with transitioning to a tablet from my netbook, and for the most part I can pull it off. And if Microsoft releases Word for Android, my prayers will be answered. Kingsoft is good, but I miss a few key features.

I too want one sooooo bad. Now if they could just get it released here in the States; I blame the cellphone carriers on this. I don't have need for a tablet except for when I travel for work, it would be nice on the plane. Never having to transfer/sync/update stuff on two devices would be awesome.

I am holding off on upgrading my cell phone/changing carriers until I here who gets it in the states. So help me if it is a VZW exclusive; I don't know what I would do then? :)

You could just order the worldwide version from Taiwan. I've got my eye on the 64gb version (no expansion slot, alas), which looks like it'll cost around $1100.

I think at this point I am past the tipping point on the idea of owning a tablet, and I really like the Android ecosystem, so unless reviews declare it a piece of garbage, I think the Nexus 10 is going to be the one I go for. Was thinking about the Surface, but the mixed reviews combined with Microsoft's history of quickly abandoning things that aren't massive hits right out of the gate has kind of given me pause.

farley3k wrote:

Spec comparison for the new 10" Nexus, iPad, Galaxy Note, and Kindle Fire HD

The Nexus 10 is looking better and better.

Pricing looks great.

Not sure if Apple has the lure to convince neutral people their product is worth $100 more.

Google already has their hooks in me between mail, calendar, drive. Not minding it at all either.

edit: I already have a Nexus 7 and although it hasn't been revolutionary for me I've never felt ripped off. Not paying an arm and a leg helps with that.