Goozex

demonbox wrote:

I'm supposed to have a game coming to me now-- only 5 days left before the person clearly becomes a dead beat. I'll see how their customer service is at that point. So far I really like the service though.

I usually PM the person by now to make sure they've sent it.

If you give negative feedback ("haven't received the game") you should get all your points back, and the other person would have to dispute it. Disputes are handled on a case-by-case basis, probably based on feedback scores and whether the sender used delivery confirmation.

Once I didn't get a game until a day or two after the last day to give negative feedback. (If you give no feedback, it assumes positive after 30 14 days.) I gave negative feedback on the last day, but was easily able to reverse it later; so don't feel shy to give negative feedback if it doesn't arrive in time.

Honestly, although I don't use Goozex a lot, I absolutely love it. You just have to get the hang it. I second Jonman's pro-tip: I have a lot of stuff in my "On Hold" queue for when it drops to a point value I'm willing to pay.

Echelon wrote:

I'm assuming you and Clemenstation set your regions to Canada so as to reduce shipping charges? I've set it to both U.S and Canada, because I ship stuff for free through work. Was just wondering if there were any other reasons to do so ?

Just my luck that two gamers on Gamerswithjobs that use Goozex and are from the same city as myself own xbox. Aargh !!!

Great tips Jonman...thank-you

Yeah, I don't really care to ship to the States. Too pricey. In fact, I often turn down trades that I arbitrarily decide are "too far away", like PEI or NWT. I'd say 90% of the stuff I send out stays in Ontario.

You should buy an Xbox!
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mrtomaytohead wrote:
beeporama wrote:

Once I didn't get a game until a day or two after the last day to give negative feedback. (If you give no feedback, it assumes positive after 14 days.)

FTFY

Oops, thanks.

Jonman wrote:
Echelon wrote:

I opened an account with Goozex a couple of weeks back and added some games to My Stash but have been a little hesitant to pull the trigger to start trading after having poor success over at GameTZ.

After reading so many positive reviews here, I think I'm ready to commit. Thanks guys.

Any pro-tips for a Goozex noob ?

If you want the most peace of mind, pay the extra few cents for delivery confirmation when you mail games...

Sending games out when they're only worth 100 or 200 points will cost you a little more...

Expect to wait for games. Goozex is not a fast service, and if you expect it to be, you'll be disappointed. It's an excellent way to supplement your other ways of acquiring games, not a replacement for them.

Jonman's tips are great, I second them. Personally, I usually use delivery confirmation for high point value games and risk it with the 100-point junk I'm just getting rid of.

To elucidate on the second point, mind that a trade token to get a game costs $1; mailing a game (with postage, envelope, possible delivery confirmation, and your time) is more expensive. I find that I get the most value from Goozex by trading the occasional new game, and keeping a large request list comprised of my low-value "maybe"'s for the pile. I still buy new releases regularly, but it has largely replaced GameStop, eBay, etc. for older games.

beeporama wrote:

To elucidate on the second point, mind that a trade token to get a game costs $1; mailing a game (with postage, envelope, possible delivery confirmation, and your time) is more expensive.

Heh, I just reuse the padded envelopes that I receive from either trades or other non-Goozex packages. Just tear off the labels and seal them with tape.

I bought a box of padded envelopes at Sam's much cheaper than I'd found them at other places, but I don't think I've used any since I just started reusing.

A tip with regard to postage: the postage that you print through Goozex sends the package First Class. Because the items being mailed are games, you can send them as Media Mail, which is usually a dollar or so less expensive. You can purchase and print Media Mail labels through PayPal (although if you do, the 19 cent delivery confirmation is mandatory; but, come on, it's 19 cents!).

ClockworkHouse wrote:

A tip with regard to postage: the postage that you print through Goozex sends the package First Class. Because the items being mailed are games, you can send them as Media Mail, which is usually a dollar or so less expensive. You can purchase and print Media Mail labels through PayPal (although if you do, the 19 cent delivery confirmation is mandatory; but, come on, it's 19 cents!).

Video games are not eligible for media mail via USPS: http://pe.usps.com/text/CSR/PS-334.htm

You can get away with it sometimes, and the wording of what constitutes media mail is unfortunately vague and doesn't specifically mention video games, leading to a great deal of confusion and an excuse if you choose to lie about the contents of your mailing. Lie you must, because every USPS clerk I've dealt with knew that video games are excluded. Why they can't specify that more clearly on the USPS website I don't know.

But since you mention it, although Goozex allows you to print postage through their website, it has always been a little more expensive than what the post office charges me to send first-class (even after delivery confirmation). They must round up the weight or something.

beeporama wrote:

Lie you must, because every USPS clerk I've dealt with knew that video games are excluded. Why they can't specify that more clearly on the USPS website I don't know.

Weird. When I first started selling games on Amazon, I took them into the post office to have them shipped and the clerk recommend Media Mail when I told him what they were.

That's good to know, though. Thanks!

Clemenstation wrote:
Echelon wrote:

I'm assuming you and Clemenstation set your regions to Canada so as to reduce shipping charges? I've set it to both U.S and Canada, because I ship stuff for free through work. Was just wondering if there were any other reasons to do so ?

Just my luck that two gamers on Gamerswithjobs that use Goozex and are from the same city as myself own xbox. Aargh !!!

Great tips Jonman...thank-you

Yeah, I don't really care to ship to the States. Too pricey. In fact, I often turn down trades that I arbitrarily decide are "too far away", like PEI or NWT. I'd say 90% of the stuff I send out stays in Ontario.

You should buy an Xbox!
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Are you just worried that the packages won't get there? Because the cost doesn't change. I figure I'll happily accept a game from someone at the other end of the country to avoid a longer wait, so I shouldn't ding them when I'm the one sending it out.

casktapper wrote:

Are you just worried that the packages won't get there? Because the cost doesn't change. I figure I'll happily accept a game from someone at the other end of the country to avoid a longer wait, so I shouldn't ding them when I'm the one sending it out.

Good points. I like the quick turnaround of local-ish trades, but I suppose I should really stop discriminating against our east-coast brethren.

I shipped via pay pal for $1.92 with delivery confirmation, first class USPS (just checked the tracking info / receipt on it) while Goozex shipment wanted $3.20 or something for the same package (played with specify your own weight to figure out what weight Goozex was using).

How much is everyone else paying for shipping a typical game in the US?

mrtomaytohead wrote:

I shipped via pay pal for $1.92 with delivery confirmation, first class USPS (just checked the tracking info / receipt on it) while Goozex shipment wanted $3.20 or something for the same package (played with specify your own weight to figure out what weight Goozex was using).

How much is everyone else paying for shipping a typical game in the US?

Usually $1.90 or $2.12 for USPS First Class without delivery confirmation. This is either over-the-counter at the post office, or using their automated machine at the post office.

Yeah; I never use the Goozex mailing labels. Almost double the price of shipping from the USPS.

beeporama wrote:

Video games are not eligible for media mail via USPS: http://pe.usps.com/text/CSR/PS-334.htm

You can get away with it sometimes, and the wording of what constitutes media mail is unfortunately vague and doesn't specifically mention video games, leading to a great deal of confusion and an excuse if you choose to lie about the contents of your mailing. Lie you must, because every USPS clerk I've dealt with knew that video games are excluded. Why they can't specify that more clearly on the USPS website I don't know.

Holy crap - thanks for saying that! I run a vintage games business sending out dozens of packages a month and no one - not eBay, not Paypal, not Amazon, not USPS - notified me that the classification changed as of that September 2009 ruling. I knew that cartridges were never eligible (technically they're circuit boards rather than 'media'), but had no idea that they'd made that change for all other forms of electronic entertainment media.

Oh, well - time to revise 50+ listings and pay over double the postage cost on each. Delightfully, eBay caps the postage cost you're allowed to charge at $4 for video games, ensuring that I'll now be losing money on each of them rather than recouping some of the gas, packaging, Paypal, etc. costs. Awesome.

KillerTomato wrote:

no one - not eBay, not Paypal, not Amazon, not USPS - notified me that the classification changed

I suggest you just keep on keepin' on then. Unless, of course, you're Lawful Good.

Clemenstation wrote:
KillerTomato wrote:

no one - not eBay, not Paypal, not Amazon, not USPS - notified me that the classification changed

I suggest you just keep on keepin' on then. Unless, of course, you're Lawful Good.

Worst.
Alignment.
EVAR.

Jonman wrote:

Worst.
Alignment.
EVAR.

Tell me about it. I'm having to change how I ship stuff now, too.

Edit: Although, wouldn't Lawful Neutral better fit the bill?

I always ship priority, which is probably stupid. I just don't want to worry about getting an envelope that I can use in addition to shipping it. I always figured it should come out about even, but I never did the math.

Has there been a change on Goozex? I just confirmed I shipped a game and it gave me my points immediately. Usually I have to wait until the other party receives the game and gives feedback before the points are put in my account, and I can see that hasn't happened yet. I'm curious whether the points came out of the account of the buyer, or if Goozex credits me the points in advance before taking them out of the buyer's account to encourage more trading.

I shipped two games around a week ago, and this didn't happen. I can't find any info on it on the site either. I'm just curious as to what will happen if I get negative feedback or if the buyer tries to cancel the trade at this point.

Evo wrote:

Has there been a change on Goozex? I just confirmed I shipped a game and it gave me my points immediately. Usually I have to wait until the other party receives the game and gives feedback before the points are put in my account, and I can see that hasn't happened yet. I'm curious whether the points came out of the account of the buyer, or if Goozex credits me the points in advance before taking them out of the buyer's account to encourage more trading.

This is normal. You've received enough positive feedback on your trades that you'll receive the points when you confirm the items as shipped rather than when the buyer receives them.

So far as where the points come from, Goozex removes them from the buyer's account as soon as you confirm the trade.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

This is normal. You've received enough positive feedback on your trades that you'll receive the points when you confirm the items as shipped rather than when the buyer receives them.

So far as where the points come from, Goozex removes them from the buyer's account as soon as you confirm the trade.

I never realized this. This will be the 5th game I've shipped, so that must be the threshold. Thanks for the clarification.

Evo wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

This is normal. You've received enough positive feedback on your trades that you'll receive the points when you confirm the items as shipped rather than when the buyer receives them.

So far as where the points come from, Goozex removes them from the buyer's account as soon as you confirm the trade.

I never realized this. This will be the 5th game I've shipped, so that must be the threshold. Thanks for the clarification.

That's weird because I've got 90 feedback points (9 shipped and confirmed) and 1 out now that I have yet to get the points for, but I confirmed it shipped and the tracking (but not the recipient on Goozex) has it confirmed delivered.

Did someone say Goo Sex? because I could get me some of that.

This might be obvious to everyone else, but I have a tip with Goozex. If you look at the requests and offers pages, it lists how long you'll be expected to receive or ship a game (i.e., it'll show your place in the queue or "long wait"). However, this number is based on all of the package types combined rather than the package type you're offering or requesting. So, if you're shipping a game as disc only, you'll need to click through to the stats to see how many people are ahead of you in the disc only queue because the number displayed includes everyone who requested the full package and the disc plus manual, too.

So now that I know I have my points now, I'm having a tough time deciding between Batman Arkham Asylum or Assassins Creed II. Halp?

Evo wrote:

So now that I know I have my points now, I'm having a tough time deciding between Batman Arkham Asylum or Assassins Creed II. Halp?

No help required. Both are superb. It's a win-win.

My personal opinion is that Batman is ever so slightly better, but a little shorter too.

Evo wrote:

So now that I know I have my points now, I'm having a tough time deciding between Batman Arkham Asylum or Assassins Creed II. Halp?

Assassin's Creed II's point value has been trending downward at a faster clip than Batman. If you trade for Batman now, there's a good chance you'll be able to trade it back down the road and get Assasin's Creed II for a lot less than it is now.

Jonman wrote:
Evo wrote:

So now that I know I have my points now, I'm having a tough time deciding between Batman Arkham Asylum or Assassins Creed II. Halp?

No help required. Both are superb. It's a win-win.

My personal opinion is that Batman is ever so slightly better, but a little shorter too.

So get Assassins Creed II so that Batman will drop in value quicker for when I want it.

Batman is holding its value remarkably well. I've been waiting for this one to get below 500 points for what seems like forever.

Clemenstation wrote:

Batman is holding its value remarkably well. I've been waiting for this one to get below 500 points for what seems like forever.

Which is surprising with some of the sales and the GotY edition. I've seen it on sale for less than $20 a couple of times already.

I had Darksiders pop up yesterday telling me I could get it if I activated my hold. But it's still 1000 points.

No thanks, that's got to drop a bit soon. Amazon's regular price is sub-$40 IIRC.

Yeah Batman is one instance where I think I'd have better luck searching bargain bins or Walmart rather than Goozex.