Goozex

Evo wrote:
mrtomaytohead wrote:

Of course, I've got someone sitting on a confirmed delivery of a game right now and not providing feedback.

They have 14 days after receiving it to evaluate the copy before providing feedback, and some people actually do that. If they don't provide feedback, you automatically get the full +10 and your points after the 14 days. It sucks, but if there's a scratch on the disc that hard locks the game after the first hour and you didn't test it, you'd be SOL. I usually install it and play a few hours before leaving feedback so I don't get burned.

It was my wife's copy of Super Smash Bros. Melee from before we got married and she got every trophy in the game. There's nothing wrong with it. Now the guy's had it since Monday. Thankfully, the other people seem to be leaving feedback so now I'm back down to only 2 offers out instead of 4. And one is in transit. I'll probably just send a quick reminder tomorrow (1 week after tracking confirmed delivery) and just let it go from there.

mrtomaytohead wrote:
Evo wrote:
mrtomaytohead wrote:

Of course, I've got someone sitting on a confirmed delivery of a game right now and not providing feedback.

They have 14 days after receiving it to evaluate the copy before providing feedback, and some people actually do that. If they don't provide feedback, you automatically get the full +10 and your points after the 14 days. It sucks, but if there's a scratch on the disc that hard locks the game after the first hour and you didn't test it, you'd be SOL. I usually install it and play a few hours before leaving feedback so I don't get burned.

It was my wife's copy of Super Smash Bros. Melee from before we got married and she got every trophy in the game. There's nothing wrong with it. Now the guy's had it since Monday. Thankfully, the other people seem to be leaving feedback so now I'm back down to only 2 offers out instead of 4. And one is in transit. I'll probably just send a quick reminder tomorrow (1 week after tracking confirmed delivery) and just let it go from there.

Yeah, but he doesn't know that. I'm just saying, most people play it "better safe than sorry." Once you leave that feedback, it doesn't matter if the game's defective or a pirated copy. I've read about some very sharp looking pirate copies that come from Asia, which end being traded on Goozex. You don't really have any recourse after giving positive feedback, and since you're trading with complete strangers, the honor system doesn't really work.

Bottom line: It sucks to wait, but you need a lot of patience to trade on Goozex.

Evo wrote:

Yeah, but he doesn't know that. I'm just saying, most people play it "better safe than sorry." Once you leave that feedback, it doesn't matter if the game's defective or a pirated copy. I've read about some very sharp looking pirate copies that come from Asia, which end being traded on Goozex. You don't really have any recourse after giving positive feedback, and since you're trading with complete strangers, the honor system doesn't really work.

Bottom line: It sucks to wait, but you need a lot of patience to trade on Goozex.

Thankfully by the middle of the afternoon today, all my outstanding delivered trades with no feedback had feedback left. Yeah, I think with any service like this it's going to be a bit of trader/buyer beware. But that's something I'm willing to deal with if it means I can get rid of some stuff I don't want / get some stuff I do want.

Just an update, I had a trade confirmed, and since I've taken to investigating the sellers now, I found out that the game coming to me was not complete, despite requesting complete, so I PM'ed the guy and he responded, that in fact it wasn't, blah blah, case and disc, no option, previous person, blah blah. I told him I didn't want it and he cancelled the trade, thankfully. So i'm back in the queue, but thankfully nobody else has an active request in for the complete package.

Like my previous post, it's a buyer beware, but hey, I'm barely paying for the stuff, so I'm not too worried.

For trading out Final Fantasy XIII maybe three weeks after it was released, I got 1000 points + 200 points (that new game trade bonus) + 50 points tip from the buyer. I'm pretty sure I actually made a PROFIT on this game.

I've only had positive luck thus far. I don't know what there customer support is like, but I've not had to worry too much about it.

Also, I made a lot of points when Best Buy had Metroid Prime trilogy for $20-- which then traded for about 1000 points on Goozex. I wish I had purchased more than 2 of them.

I had a trade a while back that it turned out came from somebody living in the same town I do. He PM'd me and asked if I wouldn't mind if he just stopped by the house and dropped it off himself to save him the three bucks' shipping. Seemed like a pretty normal, non-ax-murderer type when he stopped by, but it's one of those situations that you don't really think about when you sign up for a service like this.

hbi2k wrote:

I had a trade a while back that it turned out came from somebody living in the same town I do. He PM'd me and asked if I wouldn't mind if he just stopped by the house and dropped it off himself to save him the three bucks' shipping. Seemed like a pretty normal, non-ax-murderer type when he stopped by, but it's one of those situations that you don't really think about when you sign up for a service like this.

I just shipped a trade to a non-gaming podcast host that I've listened to for a few years. Recognized the name and location, so PM'd to ask. Thought it was pretty funny. He probably found it creepy.

MannishBoy wrote:

I just shipped a trade to a non-gaming podcast host that I've listened to for a few years. Recognized the name and location, so PM'd to ask. Thought it was pretty funny. He probably found it creepy.

Well, just keep listening to the podcast and if he mentions it in anything other than a positive light, you're a creepy stalker.

mrtomaytohead wrote:

Well, just keep listening to the podcast and if he mentions it in anything other than a positive light, you're a creepy stalker. :P

Is it stalking if they come to you?

Do you use the handle MannishBoy on Goozex as well? Because, if so, I can bet what he was thinking.

Clemenstation wrote:

Do you use the handle MannishBoy on Goozex as well? Because, if so, I can bet what he was thinking. :)

Heh, nope. First name, last initial.

Mannish Boy is a Muddy Waters song, but yeah, over the years it has gotten some weird questions.

I think I started using it when I couldn't get my original Quake/Diablo era gamertag somewhere. Used to use "Syclone", which was a GMC truck name.

The odd thing was when I couldn't get it on Live and had to stick the "The" in front. Should have picked something else back then.

I'm actually having good luck with Goozex right now -- I have three good games headed my way: FIFA 10, Bioshock 2, and Halo: ODST.

Here's my pro-tip for Goozex. My 'on-hold' requests list is stuffed to the rafters with games that I might, at some point in the future, want.

That way, once I decide I actually want it, or the price drops on it enough, I'm already at the head of the queue for that game.

I often drop into Goozex on release day for a game that I think I might want to play, and add it to my on-hold queue.

Jonman wrote:

Here's my pro-tip for Goozex. My 'on-hold' requests list is stuffed to the rafters with games that I might, at some point in the future, want.

That way, once I decide I actually want it, or the price drops on it enough, I'm already at the head of the queue for that game.

I often drop into Goozex on release day for a game that I think I might want to play, and add it to my on-hold queue.

You can add games even before they come out. Which is why I went to add NIER to my queue on the day it was released, and ended up 35th in line.

Clemenstation wrote:

You can add games even before they come out. Which is why I went to add NIER to my queue on the day it was released, and ended up 35th in line. :(

Yeah, I've got a bunch of unreleased stuff I'm not sure if I really want or not in there just to hold a spot in line just in case.

Clemenstation wrote:
Jonman wrote:

Here's my pro-tip for Goozex. My 'on-hold' requests list is stuffed to the rafters with games that I might, at some point in the future, want.

That way, once I decide I actually want it, or the price drops on it enough, I'm already at the head of the queue for that game.

I often drop into Goozex on release day for a game that I think I might want to play, and add it to my on-hold queue.

You can add games even before they come out. Which is why I went to add NIER to my queue on the day it was released, and ended up 35th in line. :(

Well I never. They didn't used to let you do that. Think I'll toddle off over there now and stock up my queue.

Clemenstation wrote:

You can add games even before they come out. Which is why I went to add NIER to my queue on the day it was released, and ended up 35th in line. :(

You can add them to a watchlist. I don't think that counts toward your place in the actual trade queue on release.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Clemenstation wrote:

You can add games even before they come out. Which is why I went to add NIER to my queue on the day it was released, and ended up 35th in line. :(

You can add them to a watchlist. I don't think that counts toward your place in the actual trade queue on release.

Not usually, but sometimes it goes into your trade queue....maybe if there's a release date change? For example, I'm #4 on the list of Mafia II recipients...

Jonman wrote:

Here's my pro-tip for Goozex. My 'on-hold' requests list is stuffed to the rafters with games that I might, at some point in the future, want.

That way, once I decide I actually want it, or the price drops on it enough, I'm already at the head of the queue for that game.

I often drop into Goozex on release day for a game that I think I might want to play, and add it to my on-hold queue.

I believe I read on their forums that the points cost of a game is based in part on the number of people waiting 'on-hold' for game. I'm sure it's a drop-in-the-bucket kind of effect, but it's just interesting to think that you are paying a minute amount for this convenience.

I'm supposed to have a game coming to me now-- only 5 days left before the person clearly becomes a dead beat. I'll see how their customer service is at that point. So far I really like the service though.

demonbox wrote:

I'm supposed to have a game coming to me now-- only 5 days left before the person clearly becomes a dead beat. I'll see how their customer service is at that point. So far I really like the service though.

In the event of a no-show, the process is pretty good. You leave neg feedback for the douchebag trader, and unless they appeal it, and can provide evidence that they mailed it to you, you get your points back in a matter of a day or two.

While there's some small scope for fraudulent trades (I could mail an empty envelope to a bogus address and get delivery confirmation on it, for instance), I think that Goozex are pretty good about catching repeat offenders and dealing with them.

I've at 80 trades received over the years, and while a few have been no-shows, I've always got my points back with no fuss.

Yup, Jonman's right. The process for recovering points for no-show games is fairly painless. They put you back in the queue at #1 too!

Clemenstation wrote:

Yup, Jonman's right. The process for recovering points for no-show games is fairly painless. They put you back in the queue at #1 too!

It only becomes a problem when it's a slow moving game (ie, from early last gen) and you're forced to wait a long time before someone else wants to sell it off, especially at 100 points. I had to have a seller cancel Prince of Persia Sands of Time (he had an incomplete package, as I found by looking at his history and comments) and that was over a month ago and nothing's happened since.

beeporama wrote:

Once I didn't get a game until a day or two after the last day to give negative feedback. (If you give no feedback, it assumes positive after 14 days.)

FTFY
I know this because I was a day and a half away from a tmed out trade.

Also, non-USA trades get 21 days and the 14 day thing is covered further up in this thread.

For some reason, Goozex in the UK have an unsecure sign-in page that asks for your address and DOB. Unsecure! Is it like that in the US? You'd have to be an idiot to sign up to them as it stands over here.

I opened an account with Goozex a couple of weeks back and added some games to My Stash but have been a little hesitant to pull the trigger to start trading after having poor success over at GameTZ.

After reading so many positive reviews here, I think I'm ready to commit. Thanks guys.

Any pro-tips for a Goozex noob ?

Clemenstation wrote:
Jonman wrote:

Here's my pro-tip for Goozex. My 'on-hold' requests list is stuffed to the rafters with games that I might, at some point in the future, want.

That way, once I decide I actually want it, or the price drops on it enough, I'm already at the head of the queue for that game.

I often drop into Goozex on release day for a game that I think I might want to play, and add it to my on-hold queue.

You can add games even before they come out. Which is why I went to add NIER to my queue on the day it was released, and ended up 35th in line. :(

Actually, you can't add a game until midnight (central, iirc) of the day the game is officially released. And I don't think you move up the ranks while you have a game "on-hold". You are just locked in to whatever spot you happened to be when you had the game on your active list. The only way I think you'll move up is if there are fewer people in the active queue than your current position.

Echelon wrote:

I opened an account with Goozex a couple of weeks back and added some games to My Stash but have been a little hesitant to pull the trigger to start trading after having poor success over at GameTZ.

After reading so many positive reviews here, I think I'm ready to commit. Thanks guys.

Any pro-tips for a Goozex noob ?

Echelon, I've been using Goozex for two years now and I haven't had any real issues and have moved 60+ games back and forth. There were one or two trades that never arrived (refunded by Goozex) and once that I had a late arriving game that went to abitration and I was eventually given credit for. Of course, setting my region to Canada only means I get games a bit more slowly than I might otherwise, but it takes all of the hassle out of shipping.

casktapper wrote:

Actually, you can't add a game until midnight (central, iirc) of the day the game is officially released. And I don't think you move up the ranks while you have a game "on-hold". You are just locked in to whatever spot you happened to be when you had the game on your active list. The only way I think you'll move up is if there are fewer people in the active queue than your current position.

Not quite - you do move up the queue for games that are on-hold. I've had games on my on-hold that were originally listed as 'Long Wait' (i.e. I was > position 100 in the queue), that I'm now at the front of the queue for.

Echelon wrote:

I opened an account with Goozex a couple of weeks back and added some games to My Stash but have been a little hesitant to pull the trigger to start trading after having poor success over at GameTZ.

After reading so many positive reviews here, I think I'm ready to commit. Thanks guys.

Any pro-tips for a Goozex noob ?

If you want the most peace of mind, pay the extra few cents for delivery confirmation when you mail games. That way, should someone try to scam you, you've got a cast-iron defense. Especially if you're trading games at the higher end of the value scale. That said, I choose not to pay for delivery confirmation, figuring that if I'm scammed for 1 game out of 50, I'll have broken even. I choose to take that risk, and so far, that bet has played out in my favour - I've not 'lost' on any trades.

Sending games out when they're only worth 100 or 200 points will cost you a little more, as you'll have to absorb the mailing cost for each one. That's not to say don't do it, just to be aware of it.

Expect to wait for games. Goozex is not a fast service, and if you expect it to be, you'll be disappointed. It's an excellent way to supplement your other ways of acquiring games, not a replacement for them.

When you send stuff, use a padded envelope - it's important that you maintain good feedback early on - once you have a bunch of positive feedback, the occasional negative won't be a big black mark against you, but it will be for the first few trades, so take extra care to package the items well and send them promptly.

Be honest about the condition of the game. If there's something unusual about it, contact your counterpart in the trade before mailing it. For instance, I traded a few UK DS games. They work fine on a US DS, but I always made sure to give the trader an out before I mailed it - that way they're not suprised, and they can't complain.

casktapper wrote:

Echelon, I've been using Goozex for two years now and I haven't had any real issues and have moved 60+ games back and forth. There were one or two trades that never arrived (refunded by Goozex) and once that I had a late arriving game that went to abitration and I was eventually given credit for. Of course, setting my region to Canada only means I get games a bit more slowly than I might otherwise, but it takes all of the hassle out of shipping.

Thanks for the info.

I'm assuming you and Clemenstation set your regions to Canada so as to reduce shipping charges? I've set it to both U.S and Canada, because I ship stuff for free through work. Was just wondering if there were any other reasons to do so ?

Just my luck that two gamers on Gamerswithjobs that use Goozex and are from the same city as myself own xbox. Aargh !!!

Great tips Jonman...thank-you