Lotro crashes - nVidia drivers?

I recently upgraded my nVidia drivers to the latest (191.07) and am not getting hard lock-ups after about 10-15 minutes of play. Anyone seen similar? I have an 8800 GT. Have not messed with sound drivers, video settings or anything else that applies.

8800 GT

There's a LOT of 8800s that are failing. Do you get any garbage on the screen? If it's an instant lock, it could easily be a driver bug; falling back might fix it. But if you get what I (and many other people) got, you'll start getting some random garbage and weirdness on the screen, followed by crashes, and the card will rapidly die completely, usually within a week or so.

If you're not seeing garbage, you may be fine. But it's gotten to the point now that anytime I see 8800, I cringe a little. Mine was one of the early failures, so I'm somewhat sensitized, but the only ATI failure I remember recently is a 2400 that apparently died.

It's something to keep in mind for later; even if it's just a driver problem this time, if you start seeing garbage in the future, you may want to preemptively order a replacement. I'm starting to think that early death is inevitable with this line, sort of like the 360's RROD problem, but not as severe.

Robear wrote:

latest (191.07)

Within the last day, they've released a new set 195.62. Seeing as the 8800 isn't a bleeding edge card (and should work fine with an older set), what happens if you uninstall and clean out your current drivers, and go back to the last set that worked?

I'm not 100% convinced by drivers as it should 'just work', what Malor says is reasonable too.

You know what? I got a couple of blue screens lately for the first time in ages and realized that it was because my 8800 GTS, that I was using as a damn Physx card, was overheating/failing. The blue screens were happening at desktop, for cryin' out loud!
Took the card out and I'm fine now. Crazy how that series is experiencing such huge fail rates all around the same time.

Well, that's good info. I only started with PhysX with Borderlands, and that's when all this weirdness started.

I upgraded to the new drivers and the crashes stopped. But I do need to look at a replacement card, I guess. Any suggestions under, oh, $350?

What resolution are you playing at?

Dysplastic wrote:

You know what? I got a couple of blue screens lately for the first time in ages and realized that it was because my 8800 GTS, that I was using as a damn Physx card, was overheating/failing. The blue screens were happening at desktop, for cryin' out loud!
Took the card out and I'm fine now. Crazy how that series is experiencing such huge fail rates all around the same time.

My 8800 GTS died a few months ago too. Classic hardware failure symptoms. Guess by definition long term failure problems like this can't be factored into initial reviews for hardware

My screen defaults to 1440x900. I don't have a monster screen so that's fine for me. (If I get anything like photorealism on a large screen, I need to take an anti-nausea drug just to play.)

How is the Radeon HD 5850? Or should I stick with nVidia? If it matters, I've got the horsepower; Q9450 at 2.66GHz with 2.75GB RAM (go XP lol).

5850 is probably your best bet. NVidia is really outclassed by the current Radeons. The 5850 is a little bandwidth-choked, and it doesn't scale well to high resolutions, but it's got lots of computing power.

The 5870 has a lot more bandwidth, and it'll scale better if you're planning to replace the monitor, but it's over your budget, and would be wasted money if you're going to stick with the LCD you have.

Guess by definition long term failure problems like this can't be factored into initial reviews for hardware

Yeah, and I'm pretty unhappy with NVidia about this whole thing. I really liked my 8800GTS, and I wasn't ready to replace it yet when I was forced to.

I hear that. But I've had enough cards fail with time to pay attention when the wierdies start showing up.

Thanks for the help and advice.

If you want to be more budget conscious the 4870 seems like a steal right now. Thats what I am looking at should I decide to upgrade my 8800GT. The 4870 consistently gets 60-70% better framerates than the 8800gt and it can be had for $160ish.

I'm actually go for spending right now. Although if the card dies before I can find a 5850 in stock, I may do that. Thanks!

Man my 8800GTS is on the way out as well. MW2 is constantly freezing up and crashing. Not good during the holidays...

Yeah, I just bit the bullet and ordered a 4890. Saved about $120 over the 58 series.

Crashes and lockups getting more frequent, always in graphics-intense games.

It took about ten days for mine to completely croak.

I'm past that already. Hopefully the new card will arrive in the next two days; Mirkwood fires up on Tuesday.

Thanks again for all the help.