P90X - Almost with a straight face

I've done a couple of the workouts to inform myself better (I "brought it"?!). I have to confess I rather enjoyed the "Abs Ripper" and might incorporate it occasionally into my training. The presenter is less irritating than I imagined.

I still think that a more objective target such as a local run, bike race or triathlon is hugely more enjoyable and motivating than some arbitrary x-day program. You can't replace the camaraderie or buzz of a live event nor the plain, undeniable truth of a race position and time.

I really don't think that you can use a financial argument here. I did my first few triathlons on a junked bike that had been thrown over my next-door neighbours wall nine months before. I don't pay a gym membership or own much fitness equipment at home besides a swiss ball. You've probably already got trainers, swimming costume and goggles.

I'm totally in. Rabbit, thanks for both mentioning this on the Conference Call and posting about it. I have been procrastinating for quite a while to get back into a program, had looked briefly at P90X when I was last researching programs, but hadn't done anything. I bought the set off of Amazon, got it on Friday night, and hope to have all the basic gear needed to get started by the end of this weekend.

I expect a ton of painful adjustment initially, but I have plenty of motivation. Once I get firmly into this, I'll be interested in seeing how it works with what I'm ultimately after: being back in the kind of shape where I can primarily run and climb (and secondarily bike and swim) proficiently like I used to.

One question for those with the chin-up bars: I lack any doorways (besides my front door) in my place that seem to have enough space above the trim (1.25 in at most). I understand that it's not designed to put stress on the top of the trim but rather the wall above the trim when under load, but that little space seems like not enough for the flat bar to gain any purchase. What's a viable alternative? I've seen simpler chin-up bars which seem to work by pressing against the sides of a door jamb, like more industrial versions of similar shower curtain bars, but I question how good those are and how much load they can handle, especially given the kinds of variable load doing chin-up reps would produce. I'd expect them to slip or fail more catastrophically. Anyone have any first-hand experience?

coffeespoons wrote:

I still think that a more objective target such as a local run, bike race or triathlon is hugely more enjoyable and motivating than some arbitrary x-day program. You can't replace the camaraderie or buzz of a live event nor the plain, undeniable truth of a race position and time.

All of you PS3 people are truly missing out on something special with the Xbox 360. It's vastly more fun and has been known to increase libido while actually curing most forms of contact dermatitis.

In other words, let's not get in a platform war over what's the "better" workout plan.

Speaking personally, I'm doing P90X to provide a seemingly effective way to increase my fitness in ways my marathon training and haphazard resistance workouts don't. Everyone has their reasons and things that are important to them. I imagine -- though I can only speak for myself -- that the draw of P90X is the idea of getting more toned and defined through a consistent, effective plan that makes quite a bit of sense when you boil it down.

Got my bands today. Pull-up bar still hasn't come in but I'm strongly tempted to start tonight once I get my daughter to bed substituting the bands for the back exercises. Far less than ideal but I'm impatient.

Is everyone wussing out on posting before pics? I'm tempted to post mine with a carefully positioned bnpederson to guard my modesty.

I don't have words to describe my hatred of the legs and back workout. It is going to break me. I pretty much have to hit pause for 30 to 45 seconds almost every exercise just to give my heart a chance to slow down enough to be separate beats rather than one continuous humming noise.

I'm hoping that gets better. At least I'm getting further and further in all the sets. I think today, for the first time, I did all the sets to full reps and even started adding weights where previously I had wussed out.

But, man, does my cardiovascular system protest.

But I won't see this workout again until after Christmas. Thank you, Santa. It's a better gift than even a pony.

boy its the one I care least about -- I burn, sure, but it's just not that big a deal -- further evidence that between Rob and I we are actually one studly man, but separated, we're both 90 percent wimp! I'm doing 20-30#s on almost all the leg/lunge stuff and can do all the all stuff clean. The upper body stuff is still a bit of a disaster too.

The abs I've gotten to the point where I can DO everything really well, just not nearly as many as the kids. I'm trying ot take the "quality over quantity" thing to heart though, and basically doing about half the reps on scissors, v-up-rolls, and the 30-degree laterals.

I should probably look, but I actually have no clue what week 4 is supposed to look like.

I'm doing 20-30#s on almost all the leg/lunge stuff and can do all the all stuff clean.

Go to hell, quadzilla.

rabbit wrote:

I should probably look, but I actually have no clue what week 4 is supposed to look like.

For us, it's

Wed - Yoga X
Thu - Core Synergistics
Fri - Kenpo X
Sat - Stretch
Sun - Core Synergistics
Mon - Yoga X
Tue - Stretch

Here's a (slightly biased) review. It looks daunting, but at least different.

http://www.fitnessdestinations.com/p...

You overly energetic, properly pump nerds have inspired me. Tomorrow it's back to the gym. However, instead of using P90X for inspiration I've decided to use Zuzana for inspiration:

http://www.bodyrock.tv/2009/12/08/me...

Same here bear. I'm going to workout in an alumni's garage. Olympic lifts ftw!

I've decided to use Zuzana for inspiration:

That's a very different type of inspiration indeed.

I'm having a really hard time keeping 50% protein in my diet and meeting my calorie intake. Highly annoying.

Just ordered the P90 program. Thanks for the inspiration Rabbit, et al.

Worked out in an alumni garage. Maxed Bench and Squat to find starting point.
I set personal bests in both, although the last time I tried was 40 pounds and 6 inches ago.
I feel like I should die. Never shall I squat 275 again.

Bear wrote:

You overly energetic, properly pump nerds have inspired me. Tomorrow it's back to the gym. However, instead of using P90X for inspiration I've decided to use Zuzana for inspiration:

http://www.bodyrock.tv/2009/12/08/me...

She gets bonus points for squatting to parallel.

CptGlanton wrote:

She gets bonus points for squatting to parallel.

She makes parts of me go "parallel" to the floor!

I now have new meaning to the phrase "Oh Zuzana"

Awwww yeah. Guess who got his pull-up bar in the mail today. I didn't do my workout last night expressly because I hoped it would be here today. JOY!

ColdForged wrote:

Awwww yeah. Guess who got his pull-up bar in the mail today. I didn't do my workout last night expressly because I hoped it would be here today. JOY!

Jesus. That was challenging. I knew pull-ups would be tough but damn. I'm using the chair after a few reps in the first round then damned near from the beginning on the second. Push-ups are better -- I used to do about 300-400 daily when I was heavily into kung fu -- but dive bombers have always killed me. Abs were killers, too. Those v-oblique whatevers can chomp dong. I'm already 5 kinds of sore and I'm only 90 minutes removed from my workout.

Took my before pictures but I'll be dipped if I'm going to be the first to share. You bastards dragged me into this, put up some beefcake.

Did Kenpo today after work and it was the first one I've done where I didn't feel like I was dogging it or taking shortcuts. Reminds me of Kung-fu class.

Took my before pictures but I'll be dipped if I'm going to be the first to share. You bastards dragged me into this, put up some beefcake.

I just looked at the "before" pictures Karla snapped of me. Horrifying. I might make them my desktop background for motivation.

Day 3 Shoulders and Arms complete.

This one wasn't nearly as bad as others and I am definitely glad I rested a little bit to make sure my right shoulder was ok. I took it a bit easier than i might have normally for that reason but still made sure i got the workouts in.

Now entering the first "recovery" week. Or rest week. Or not-jumping-around-and-lifting-things-quite-as-much week. Observations so far: anything below the waist has really sad strength, flexibility, and balance. Waist up...feeling OK. Managed to put on about 3 lbs but I don't think most of it is the good weight. Working to ease that back down over the next few weeks. Major improvements on many workouts from week 1 through week 3. In some cases, almost comically so.

Looking forward to a full day off today. Just doing nothing. Watched the Core Synergistics DVD in anticipation of Thursday. That DVD looks like it was made about 3 years before the others with about 25% of the budget. Looks seedy and very "workout" like. Odd. Also, some of the exercises look ludicrous.

Overall I feel like I have more energy, much more flexibility, and the ability to go up a flight of stairs without feeling it.

The end.

Certis wrote:

I just looked at pictures of me. Horrifying.

We've seen pictures of you. We know. It's ok. *pats shoulder comfortingly*

You f*ckers are going to convince me to do this, even though I absolutely don't want to spend the time...

NotThatRob wrote:

Now entering the first "recovery" week. Or rest week. Or not-jumping-around-and-lifting-things-quite-as-much week. Observations so far: anything below the waist has really sad strength, flexibility, and balance. Waist up...feeling OK. Managed to put on about 3 lbs but I don't think most of it is the good weight.

I'm curious about this. I haven't weighed myself since just before I started, but I'll probably check in another week or so. Have you been calorie tracking like rabbit? Do you mean like, too much snacking "bad weight" kind of stuff or something else? I assume good weight would be muscle ... or a beautiful woman clinging to you like a tree sloth.

Certis wrote:
NotThatRob wrote:

Now entering the first "recovery" week. Or rest week. Or not-jumping-around-and-lifting-things-quite-as-much week. Observations so far: anything below the waist has really sad strength, flexibility, and balance. Waist up...feeling OK. Managed to put on about 3 lbs but I don't think most of it is the good weight.

I'm curious about this. I haven't weighed myself since just before I started, but I'll probably check in another week or so. Have you been calorie tracking like rabbit? Do you mean like, too much snacking "bad weight" kind of stuff or something else? I assume good weight would be muscle ... or a beautiful woman clinging to you like a tree sloth.

I've lost some weight but I am having problems dropping weight consistently. Not sure what I'm doing wrong or if I'm even doing anything wrong, the problem with these high-protein diets and working out constantly is that I probably should be gaining muscle mass.

I've hit my calorie targets for the past week and have actually gained weight since Friday. It's really discouraging to see weight go back up even though I'm sticking to the diet very well.

I'm curious about this. I haven't weighed myself since just before I started, but I'll probably check in another week or so. Have you been calorie tracking like rabbit? Do you mean like, too much snacking "bad weight" kind of stuff or something else? I assume good weight would be muscle ... or a beautiful woman clinging to you like a tree sloth.

I'm not calorie tracking like Rabbit but, as a Type 1 diabetic, I've been tracking what I eat very carefully for almost 25 years. The issue is that my metabolism has ramped up so much in the past few weeks that my insulin has become much more effective. So I take my insulin as normal, eat as normal, and then find that my blood sugar is low and I need some quick crappy carbs to bring it back up. So I've ended up overeating just to keep my blood sugar from plummeting. Now that I'm learning how to dial back my insulin I'm not having to have these 'topping off' snacks as often.

Truth be told, I wouldn't mind gaining or losing weight, as long as any weight I gained was muscle and any weight I lost was fat. But that's obviously a tricky thing to do or everyone would be doing it. Also, my younger brother did a full Iron Man triathalon a few years back and still had nothing close to a six-pack mid-section. Our family just likes a little padding there and at some point you can either accept genetics or go insane eating the most boring food ever in some attempt to look like a guy from MTV's Jersey Shore show.

In general, I'm eating more protein but probably not as nearly as I "should" for this workout and trying to eat a little of everything and hope it all works out. As I said, I kind of think about this stuff every day, all day. The fun of having part of your pancreas cannabalized by an over-enthusiastic immune system.

I'm okay with protein but not hitting enough carbs and getting too much fat at least according to Livestrong.

ColdForged wrote:

I'm okay with protein but not hitting enough carbs and getting too much fat at least according to Livestrong.

My ratios are only off by a few percent, my only problem is I come in way under calorie count occasionally. It's kind of a chore to constantly eat enough to make it to my calorie count using a bunch of small meals.

Go take a look at the "Lovers of Chocolate" thread, that'll help you with your problem Pyro.

I'm going to be stocking up on some whey protein powders and such this week to help keep my protein up. I think I've done OK keeping myself limited to "good" fats, but Karla does most of the cooking and I'm not trying to change her dishes too much. I figure if I'm eating well in the morning and during the day, I can handle whatever Karla feels like making. She doesn't really go overboard anyways.

Hoping the protein power can augment my intake enough. Like Pyro, it's tough to fit the right kind of eating in when your day is so damn busy.

NotThatRob wrote:

I'm not calorie tracking like Rabbit but, as a Type 1 diabetic, I've been tracking what I eat very carefully for almost 25 years.

Blah blah blah. I'm so tired of you bragging about your Type 1 Diabetes*. You don't see me bragging about my one non-functional ear do you? I know it would land me big promotions and all kinds of chicks, but I don't mention it because I'm so classy.

You're like rabbit with his seizures. "Ohhh, look at me, I'm epileptic! How about that raise, boss?"

[size=7]*Seriously though, it's hard enough being "normal" and managing food. Can't imagine trying to balance insulin on top of all that.[/size]

Certis wrote:

I'm going to be stocking up on some whey protein powders and such this week to help keep my protein up.

I had my first shake made with this yesterday post workout.
I added 1.5 cups of skim milk, a banana, and some greek yogurt. It's really good and about 50g of protein!

edit: Looks like this on LiveStrong
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DrJekl wrote:
Certis wrote:

I'm going to be stocking up on some whey protein powders and such this week to help keep my protein up.

I had my first shake made with this yesterday post workout.
I added 1.5 cups of skim milk, a banana, and some greek yogurt. It's really good and about 50g of protein!

I use Unsweetened Soy Milk, Silken Tofu and Whey Protein to make a shake (a little Stevia to sweeten it). It's almost entirely protein and tastes pretty good. It's been great to replace lunch with that.

Snacks are hard though, considering vegetables contribute no protein and very little calories.