Dexter is creepy!

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A co-worker recommend this show to me (I think that says something but I am not sure what) so I got Season 1 from the library and just watched the first episode. It is creepy. There were several scenes which just made me uncomfortable. I still can't decide if I like it or not. How is the show holding up? I think it is in season 4 or so now.

Well, I like it. But then again, I fancied Sylar.

It's a great show and he remains creepy throughout.

If the visuals creep you out, I would also highly recommend the books/audio books that the show is based on. The first is Darkly Dreaming Dexter.

Avoid Dexter in the Dark like the plague. Terrible book in a fantastic series. And to be honest, did you expect a show about a serial killer with "morals" to be anything but? I was pleasantly surprised at how tame it is (violence/sex/language) compared to everything else on Showtime.

Speaking of Dexter, in the latest eps:

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I don't think it is the trinity killer that actually did the shooting, he probably paid someone to do it. What do you guys think? Oh and why was the female detective (forgot the name) shot but not killed? Was it a misfire?

It's one of my favorite shows, but I don't think I've ever thought of it as being creepy. It just might not be for you.

My wife and I both love the TV show. It is precisely because of his "creepiness" that the show is so effective; the sound is great, so that Dexter's internal monologue feels like it is a dead voice that is phyiscally far closer to you than the rest of the sound.

When Dexter occasionally becomes a bit less sinister (any 2000 A.D. fans?) it is almost disappointing.

lethial wrote:

Speaking of Dexter, in the latest eps:

Spoiler:

I don't think it is the trinity killer that actually did the shooting, he probably paid someone to do it. What do you guys think? Oh and why was the female detective (forgot the name) shot but not killed? Was it a misfire?

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I think it is the Trinity Killer either trying to make it look like it was the Vacation Killers, or it was the Vacation Killers. Maybe the killer thought the shot would kill Deb.

Thoroughly enjoyed Season 1. Mostly enjoyed Season 2. Enjoyed Season 3.

My biggest gripe with the show is the character of Dexter himself. One minute, he's a self-obsessed serial killer who cares about no-one but himself and his sister, the next he's shacking up with a hot blonde and playing daddy to her kids.

It doesn't sit right with me. It's hinted at a few times that he's just got a girlfriend as cover, but the writing shows that he has genuine affection for the her and the kids. Like I say, the show can't seem to make it's mind up about the main character.

For my money, Dexter is among the best stuff on TV.

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I think it was intentional that Deb wasn't killed. Not sure why, but I'm also not sure why the killer took Lundy's wallet but left Deb's purse. At least that's what I think I remember.

As for who the shooter was, I would guess that it was not Trinity, but I'm really only basing that on a hunch.

Jonman wrote:

Thoroughly enjoyed Season 1. Mostly enjoyed Season 2. Enjoyed Season 3.

My biggest gripe with the show is the character of Dexter himself. One minute, he's a self-obsessed serial killer who cares about no-one but himself and his sister, the next he's shacking up with a hot blonde and playing daddy to her kids.

It doesn't sit right with me. It's hinted at a few times that he's just got a girlfriend as cover, but the writing shows that he has genuine affection for the her and the kids. Like I say, the show can't seem to make it's mind up about the main character.

Isn't that the growth element of the character?

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He took on a relationship with Darla from Angel as she was a domestic violence victim, and he thought that he could maintain the pretence of a relationship without the requirement for physical intimacy, which he found uncomfortable. It wasn't hinted at, but outright explained in the early episodes.

As time went on, he developed feelings for her and the kids, which he isn't really equipped to deal with. It's not that surprising, really, considering his strong filial relationship with Debs.

Hooray, another Dexter thread! Best show ever!

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I knew Lundy was going to be murdered in that last episode but I was really holding out hope that it wouldn't happen. My guess is that it was creepy John Lithgow who did it and is trying to make it look like the vacation killings.

Jonman's right, the writers can't seem to decide if Dexter has emotions or not. I'm willing to overlook it though.

I can't watch the show. The portrayal of Miami is so god awful and wrong that I can't stop yelling at the screen "That's not how it is!" Yeah I'm one of those people.

Dammit, I can't post anything new here until its on dvd. Help me live vicariously through your posts!

Season 2 is great; probably the best so far. Season 3 is my least favorite; the premise and the believability get stretched REAL THIN, and the only thing that features a bigger ham than Jimmy Smits on Season 3 of Dexter is Easter. Season 4 seems to be getting back to what DEXTER does well.

So, yeah, Dexter is holding up. It hasn't pulled a WEEDS and completely violated its own premise. Yet.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Jonman's right, the writers can't seem to decide if Dexter has emotions or not. I'm willing to overlook it though.

By all logic he shouldn't and in reality wouldn't. But it is really hard to write a character that is a completely emotionless blob. So I can forgive them, even though it is a very Television Writing Room trope that "Every Character Must Evolve".

Thank God the show doesn't follow the storyline in the books though.

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Alien Dark Passenger and all that.

That didn't work for me at all.

Jonman wrote:

It doesn't sit right with me. It's hinted at a few times that he's just got a girlfriend as cover, but the writing shows that he has genuine affection for the her and the kids.

This is true, but I took that as an unreliable narrator technique. Dexter keeps saying he has no human feelings, but his relationships with the blond, her kids, and his sister indicates that he does. Even his confusion over how he should feel about his father is like that. That's my take on the show anyway.

spider_j wrote:

My wife and I both love the TV show. It is precisely because of his "creepiness" that the show is so effective; the sound is great, so that Dexter's internal monologue feels like it is a dead voice that is phyiscally far closer to you than the rest of the sound.

When Dexter occasionally becomes a bit less sinister (any 2000 A.D. fans?) it is almost disappointing.

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magnus wrote:

Thank God the show doesn't follow the storyline in the books though.

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Alien Dark Passenger and all that.

That didn't work for me at all.

Yeah, I have to agree with this.

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I liked it better when the Dark Passenger was a symptom of his psychosis and not a separate entity.

You want creepy? Season 4 has John Lithgow ass.

Season 1 was awesome. Season 2 was phenomenal. Season 3 was borderline horrible, but still entertaining at points and worth seeing through to the end. Season 4 is shaping up to be somewhere near Season 2 quality.

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I think it's more that Dexter can't figure out if he has emotions or not. It's an alien concept to him, so when he finds the hint of feelings, he's confused. Doesn't know what emotions feel like and the emotions there are clouded under years of psychosis and living by the code that they're probably not particularly strong.

Anyone notice how Dexter's lips are pale, and the more he interacts with his friends and family, the paler (more pale?) they get until they're essentially blue? But once he starts stalking his victim and then killing them, his lips (and the rest of his face, actually) get their color back. It's a really nice touch, and they keep it pretty subtle throughout the series. Although...

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...now when he spends time with his family, his lips aren't quite so pale any more.

MechaSlinky wrote:

Anyone notice how Dexter's lips are pale, and the more he interacts with his friends and family, the paler (more pale?) they get until they're essentially blue? But once he starts stalking his victim and then killing them, his lips (and the rest of his face, actually) get their color back. It's a really nice touch, and they keep it pretty subtle throughout the series. Although...

Spoiler:

...now when he spends time with his family, his lips aren't quite so pale any more.

I've noticed that. I love the little touches.

Season 4 thoughts:

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I think the Trinity killer did attack Lundy and Deb but did intentionally go away from any kind of serial kill style. I also don't think he took Lundy's wallet, but the voice recorder that he was using, which he used to record Trinity's description earlier that episode.

I watched some of the show over my wife's shoulder when she was into it for a while. Since I only saw bits and pieces Dexter seemed like a emo-wussy whom I couldn't see killing anyone. I was not convinced to watch the show obviously.

mrwynd wrote:

I watched some of the show over my wife's shoulder when she was into it for a while. Since I only saw bits and pieces Dexter seemed like a emo-wussy whom I couldn't see killing anyone. I was not convinced to watch the show obviously.

And you were so very wrong.

I haven't started season thee on DVD yet. I wish it would pop up on Netflix instant view, like the first two seasons.

But it is among my favorite shows of all-time.

My wife and I have been addicted to these on DVD for a couple of months now. We're almost through with Season 3 and not sure how our lives will go on considering we don't have Showtime. LOVE this show.

larrymadill wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

Jonman's right, the writers can't seem to decide if Dexter has emotions or not. I'm willing to overlook it though.

By all logic he shouldn't and in reality wouldn't. But it is really hard to write a character that is a completely emotionless blob. So I can forgive them, even though it is a very Television Writing Room trope that "Every Character Must Evolve".

I think it's definitely possible to feel numb but still feel an attachment or fondness to people around you, especially if you grew up being taught right from wrong (albeit in a slightly twisted way). Dexter does seem to step beyond this at times, but to be fair I don't think it's never been stated what kind of mental disorder Dexter suffers from and there's no reason his mental state couldn't change at least a little bit over time.

From brief reading it sounds a bit like severe Depersonalization Disorder to me which seems to fit with the character, though how accurately I don't know.

I think it's more that everyone assumes he's a psychopath, killing all those people at all. However, it has been awhile since I watched the first season, so I can't quite remember his relationship with his dad, but I think there was something complex going on there, meaning emotions and growth aren't beyond him.

So, depersonalization disorder sounds good! I'll take it.

There were several parts during the first season that hinted at his growing need for human contact. Rewatch the episode with the therapist. He postpones killing him to get advice on how to keep Darla From Angel instead of following his usual pattern. And, add to that, his disgust for pedophiles and his almost instinctive need to protect/avenge children. He'll never be free of his Dark Passenger, but that doesn't mean he can't change.

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