OOTP X Catch-All

This is my first OOTP since 11, so for me the UI is a revelation. Much, much improved. I started a standard MLB game and have mucked around a bit, but most of my time so far has been spent on an historical 1988 replay. Need to get the Mets the ring they deserved that year.

I'll probably wait a few more weeks to see if there are any major bugs before starting on a fictional universe with all the fixings.

Yeah, with the lack of baseball on the Xbox, I will probably dive back into this.

Jayhawker wrote:

Yeah, with the lack of baseball on the Xbox, I will probably dive back into this.

Oh yeah? Time to point this out, again.

I've 'Quick Start' with 2014 rosters for about 20 games. Simmed and play-by-play. Imported my 2014 fictional game. Downloaded 2014 all in one mod. Everything seems to be working well. I'm not hardcore for anything beyond this. Seem's pretty clean and some getting use to where things are now from previous versions. But once familiarized, definitely cleaner, 'easier' UI. Some reports from hardcore folks about bugs when you get really down and dirty with things. But that is the usual deal in new release and Markus and team are usually on them quickly (already a patch within a few days of release). But 'basic' game seems rock solid to me and my needs.

I just realized if someone new read my above text it's way too cryptic.

'Quick Start' is the way to play MLB with current rosters

All-in-One mod is one you can get from in the game in the 'mod central' (among others). This particular one put's correct MLB emblems etc. on player's and team pages.

If you want more information on the game you can go to the OOTP website for the forum on OOTP 15 (newest release):

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/

Or click the link Garion gives below to read the last few pages on some new aspects of the new version (pizzaaddict mentioned some nice ones), or to just enjoy reading GWJ'er's with their adventure's in league play. Fun!

garion333 wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Yeah, with the lack of baseball on the Xbox, I will probably dive back into this.

Oh yeah? Time to point this out, again. ;)

I was reading that thread earlier today and felt tempted to ask to join, but the week of a new OOTP release is always a bad time for me to do that. My commitment level to the league I'm already in comes in fits and starts, so probably not wise to add another one until I really decide I'm all in OOTP15. (I assume you're all upgrading to it at some point?)

ubrakto wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Yeah, with the lack of baseball on the Xbox, I will probably dive back into this.

Oh yeah? Time to point this out, again. ;)

I was reading that thread earlier today and felt tempted to ask to join, but the week of a new OOTP release is always a bad time for me to do that. My commitment level to the league I'm already in comes in fits and starts, so probably not wise to add another one until I really decide I'm all in OOTP15. (I assume you're all upgrading to it at some point?)

We upgrade sometime after the real All Star break. So, whenever a season ends after the game goes on sale for the first time.

garion333 wrote:
ubrakto wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Yeah, with the lack of baseball on the Xbox, I will probably dive back into this.

Oh yeah? Time to point this out, again. ;)

I was reading that thread earlier today and felt tempted to ask to join, but the week of a new OOTP release is always a bad time for me to do that. My commitment level to the league I'm already in comes in fits and starts, so probably not wise to add another one until I really decide I'm all in OOTP15. (I assume you're all upgrading to it at some point?)

We upgrade sometime after the real All Star break. So, whenever a season ends after the game goes on sale for the first time.

And that was really a rule I came up with based on some... erm... slightly unrealistic ideas of what the response would be to the league. As far as I'm concerned, if you're not "just signed up to the site" new, you can hop on in to our league whenever you'd like, if you're okay with it.

Prederick wrote:
garion333 wrote:
ubrakto wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Yeah, with the lack of baseball on the Xbox, I will probably dive back into this.

Oh yeah? Time to point this out, again. ;)

I was reading that thread earlier today and felt tempted to ask to join, but the week of a new OOTP release is always a bad time for me to do that. My commitment level to the league I'm already in comes in fits and starts, so probably not wise to add another one until I really decide I'm all in OOTP15. (I assume you're all upgrading to it at some point?)

We upgrade sometime after the real All Star break. So, whenever a season ends after the game goes on sale for the first time.

And that was really a rule I came up with based on some... erm... slightly unrealistic ideas of what the response would be to the league. As far as I'm concerned, if you're not "just signed up to the site" new, you can hop on in to our league whenever you'd like, if you're okay with it.

You're misunderstanding, Pred. We were talking about upgrading to OOTP15.

What Pred is talking about is the rule for joining he used to have, which is no longer true. Basically, if you want to join, PM him and you're pretty much in whenever (outside of taking over a team during the playoffs and that sort of nonsense ;)).

I picked up 2014 through the humble bundle. Is anyone active with that or will I have to stick with Single player?

fogrob wrote:

I picked up 2014 through the humble bundle. Is anyone active with that or will I have to stick with Single player?

The GWJ league has moved on to OOTP 15, but you can probably find some multi-player leagues by heading over to the OOTP forums.

I just finished up my OOTP 20 solo league where I managed the 1978 Yankees. The Yankees were a big part of my life from around 1976 to 1987. I’d get so stressed watching a game that on some big at bats I’d have to change the channel right before the pitch and turn it back after to see what happened - strange I know.

I played with actual rosters and transactions, so I wasn’t performing trades or anything, but I did manage each game. Ron Guidry won 21 games and had a sub 2.00 ERA and was the AL triple crown winner. After jumping ahead 2-0 in the AL playoffs vs the Royals I dropped 3 in a row to end the season.

I think for my next league I will again take control of the 1978 Yankees, but I will play with player development on - so player ratings will start off based on their actual stats and then the OOTP player development model will take over and develop players based on their potential. Also, I will turn off actual ratings and just play with potential ratings on. I keep the scale low (2-8) and will probably play with scouting on so I don’t get 100% accuracy to keep some mystery.

Also, I will have players start on their historical teams as they enter the minors - but then I will allow trades. I’m mostly doing that do I can keep my favorite rookies on the team, like Don Mattingly.

This time I’m not going to play out my games, or if I do I will only be in control of substitutions, focusing more on the GM duties.

Any OOTP fans around? i have loved baseball sims since the days of Micro League Baseball and Earl Weaver. And this is one of the best. I used to play in online leagues, but it’s been several years. With my Astros in the playoffs, I got the itch again and downloaded the on sale OOTP XX for $10. And it’s still great.

However, I’ve also just experienced the Perfect Team mode for the first time and I’m pretty addicted. I loved collecting baseball cards when I was young and pitting them against each other in made up teams. And this combines that beloved nostalgia with an OOTP sin experience. I’m loving it and I usually hate timed loot box games. I’ll never spend $1 on this, although they’d love me to. I’m about to finish my entry pool league. Anyone one else play this mode and have opinions?

I was thinking of picking up the game now that it's $10, but I've been a bit disillusioned with the direction they've taken the game.

Perfect Team mode reminds me so much of Ultimate Team from FIFA. I'm super cautious about multiplayer, time-sensitive games designed for "addictiveness" and generally shy away from them. From just a sampling of online discussions about the game, everyone engages with Perfect Team to the point that I rarely see discussion on the more traditional side of the game.

I realize there is nothing stopping me from buying the game and ignoring Perfect Team, but I'm a little nervous that I might get sucked into Perfect Team mode.

I also wonder what this bodes for the direction of the more traditional side of the franchise. I can see Perfect Team being so much more lucrative for them.

I played PT for awhile, and it can definitely be a lot of fun. I spent more on it than I should have, though I also had 'free' teams going, that felt like they were just as much fun as the teams I spent money on.

I think its somewhat easy to ignore the PT mode; it is essentially a separate client, so you choose to either login to PT or the regular game. Once in the regular game, you can occasionally earn free packs, but typically there isn't any other mention of it while playing (and you have to log out and switch over to PT to actually open the packs). The simulation for PT is supposedly identical to that used in the main game, so despite the likelihood that PT brings in a lot more money, there is an incentive for the developers to not completely abandon the main game. But it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that client side improvements of the main game may slow down.

I was also disappointed with the developers general reaction to concerns over the skinner box nature of PT, and the potential for harm to their players. The last time I saw anyone from the company comment on it, they seemed to be saying that they didn't really think it was a problem. Even the most rabid fans didn't buy into that, but their response instead was that dealing with gambling addiction and other such problems that the game can easily feed into was the sole responsibility of the players (usually couched within the expected bit of moral condescension).

The promotion/relegation system is perhaps not as interesting as it could or should be. I had fun while climbing up, but I had an early user advantage; while I don't actively play anymore, I do check in on occasion for both PT 'universes' (each version of the game has its own universe), and I'm still in the top league in both. I probably would have paid longer, but the collections and tournaments ended up taking too long to come out, and I had decided I needed to stop putting money in by the time they did. I was fairly certain if I continued to play I would continue to put in money, so I stopped playing.

TL;DR: I think buying the game on sale is worth it for the main game, and PT and the normal game are separate enough interface wise that its fairly easy to ignore PT. Which is good, because PT is fun and all of your concerns about the mode are valid.