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Sjostrom is my new hero.

1) Nashville is the closest. I'm not sure they even have an owner. Hopefully the Panthers will though.
2) Panthers should be worse than the Lightning.
3) Florida, Atlanta, and Nashville.
4) Once the NHL is no longer making a profit Bettman will be fired. So not very soon.
5) Blue Jackets have a chance. I think they'll have their best year ever and could sneak in. I wish them the best.
6) Maple Leafs ownership is pathetic. There is a power struggle between the two majority owners. This year is probably the best year for them, as a franchise, in a long time since they'll be allowed to fail. Letting the kids play and getting high picks is essential to a proper rebuild.
7) I'm not to good at predicting the Devils' market. I thought they'd do better than they did last year.

Vector's Questions:
1) Is the Northwest weaker tan it has been in years?
2) How many Canadian teams will make the playoffs?
3) Will the Hurricanes rebound from a bad year?
4) How will the Lightning do without a GM and crazy owners?
5) Is Detroit more powerful this year with the acquisition of Hossa?

I say this at the beginning of every season... This is the year the Coyotes make it passed the first round of the playoffs! At this point I'd be happy if they made it to the playoffs at all. It's been 6 years! At least I always have a good time watching them try. Bad hockey is better than no hockey.

Sure to evoke a response from Certis if he wanders into this thread:

There's Always Next Year
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Vector wrote:

Vector's Questions:
1) Is the Northwest weaker tan it has been in years?
2) How many Canadian teams will make the playoffs?
3) Will the Hurricanes rebound from a bad year?
4) How will the Lightning do without a GM and crazy owners?
5) Is Detroit more powerful this year with the acquisition of Hossa?

1) Yes, except for Edmonton which is much better than it has been in years! (I'd even argue better on paper than 05/06) So I'm happy.
2) 4. Mtl/Ott/Calg/Edm. Vancouver could replace Calgary or Edmonton, i just don't see who is going to score the goals.
3) Yes. They'd better - cam ward is in my pool.
4) Fine - they did well in the offseason. Still not a playoff team, yet.
5) Should be - biggest question for detroit is still in net. Still, if they play their system, they could have Ty Conklin in net and still win games....oh wait...they do.

I'm also excited to get NHL Center Ice Online (or whatever they're calling it these days) - haven't been able to consistently watch the Oilers in years. Thankfully, my IP shows up as being in Toronto, not Ottawa, so I'll get Habs games too.

Vector wrote:

3) Will the Hurricanes rebound from a bad year?

No. They have a remarkably deep talent pool of capable people and a defense with offensive teeth for the first time ever (at least theoretically). But injuries continue to plague them. There's something in this Triangle water supply that makes hockey players' bones become brittle and insignificant and their tendons snap at whim. They may make the playoffs if by some random chance they can string together a few months with most of their top lines out of full body casts, but even if they do they won't go deep.

I could see Phoenix making the playoffs this year - they added Olli Jokinen, and he is they type of player that can win games for you. Also, having Bryzgalov in goal really made a difference for the entire team last year. A goalie like that can give a team a lot of confidence by covering their mistakes.

I think that Vancouver is going to the playoffs as well, and that is solely because of Luongo. The guy is too good not to carry his team into the playoffs, as long as he gets some D in front of him. Vancouver has been able to give him that in the past, I see no reason why it'll be different this year.

Vector wrote:

5) Is Detroit more powerful this year with the acquisition of Hossa?

Wait, they could get more powerful? It doesn't seem fair. The only thing I could see slowing down Detroit is injury trouble on their blue line - ie serious injuries to Lidstrom or Rafalski. It was a bit of a problem last year, so I could see it coming back.

I have a painfully sinking feeling Zherdev won't live up to his potential (again) and it'll cost the Blueshirts.

Vector wrote:

Vector's Questions:
1) Is the Northwest weaker tan it has been in years?
2) How many Canadian teams will make the playoffs?
3) Will the Hurricanes rebound from a bad year?
4) How will the Lightning do without a GM and crazy owners?
5) Is Detroit more powerful this year with the acquisition of Hossa?

Yes, four, no, they'll make the playoffs and fail in the first round, yes.

Prederick wrote:

I have a painfully sinking feeling Zherdev won't live up to his potential (again) and it'll cost the Blueshirts.

I sure won't miss him in Columbus, for every good play he has he makes 5 really dumb ones.

Interesting..

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I have to go with 'Raccoon Hat'.

Roberto Luongo, Canucks' goaltender, named team Captain. There hasn't been a goalie Captain in 61 years. He won't be allowed to wear the C, talk to referees, or do ceremonial face-offs. However, if the Canucks win the Cup he'll do the most important thing a Captain can do, raise the Cup.

Willie Mitchell, Mattias Ohlund, and Ryan Kelser will be the associate captains. Mitchell will be the on-ice captain, Ohlund will be the ceremonial captain, and Kesler will be....the only forward as a captain.

How are your teams pre-seasons going?

Canucks are 6-0. This has me much more worried than optimistic.

The Leafs are 2-4. Which is bad.. but we could be doing worse. I have no fear though.. we'll be much better at losing games once the actual season starts.

Ouch.

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nihilo wrote:

The Leafs are 2-4. Which is bad.. but we could be doing worse. I have no fear though.. we'll be much better at losing games once the actual season starts.

That's the spirit! I'm sure you guys will suck with the best of them. Hope the rebuild goes well.

MaxShrek wrote:

Ouch.

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Damn! Was Martinek injured? He has a knack of getting hurt.

Vector wrote:

How are your teams pre-seasons going?

Canes are 2-3. First game (L) was scrub against scrub then 2 games (L and L) of scrub against lines like Ovechkin and Nylander and Richards, Briere and Gagne. Two wins against the Flyers and Preds with some semblance of normality. Ward is playing soft while Leighton is making a play for #1 goalie status.

Vector wrote:

How are your teams pre-seasons going?

Phoenix is 1 - 6, but Gretzky says he doesn't care about the losses in the pre-season since they are mainly trying out the kids and seeing how everyone can best contribute to the team. He hasn't been using the veteran players. So I can't feel too bad about the losses

The Devils are 3-2-1, about average. Weekes is not going to be a good back-up this season I fear. Everything regarding playoffs will be dictated by Brodeur, and hopefully Elias wakes up.

Vector wrote:

Vector's Questions:
1) Is the Northwest weaker tan it has been in years?
2) How many Canadian teams will make the playoffs?
3) Will the Hurricanes rebound from a bad year?
4) How will the Lightning do without a GM and crazy owners?
5) Is Detroit more powerful this year with the acquisition of Hossa?

1)it seems like every team in that division got worse. except, maybe, Colorado who stayed even. So it should be hotly contested, like other years. I see Minnesota and Colorado fighting for top spot there, with Vancouver mopping the cellar.
2)2 - Montreal for sure. Edmonton probably. I might even say Toronto could squeak in this year. Can't forget Calgary. So 3. 3 maybe 4.
3)No. The Hurricanes have to deal with a revamped Tampa Bay team and the energy fueled Capitals. Carolina will come in 3rd in that division about 6 points out of a playoff spot.
4)The Lightning will do better than last year, and good in their division, but I think they'll still struggle for a playoff spot. Washington isn't exactly a powerhouse, but I think most of their games will be lost by goaltending this year, and not failure to put pucks in nets.
5)Hopefully. Who am I kidding. yes and yes. I'm in the Detroit area and have been to a couple preseason games this year. Hossa looks lost still. That will definitely clear up a little once the whole team gets together (Detroit split up into 2 different teams that played every other game). I noticed he was going offsides a lot and didn't exactly know where to go off of face-offs. He might not come out of the gates firing both barrels, but once he finds his niche in the team.....lookout. Datsyuk is gonna break 100 points this season and Hossa is gonna get 40+ goals. Once those two click its gonna be beautiful.

Skeletonframes questions:

1)Will Ovechkin rival his goals and points from last year?
2)Which team will come in last place this year?
3)Will Mats Sundin come back? If so which team?
4)Has the Central Division gotten any tougher for Detroit?
5)Will an announcer mention Sidney Crosby every 3.5 seconds?(even when he's not playing)
6)Will Mike Milbury ruin Hockey Night in Canada?
7)Will Barry Melrose make it the whole year behind Tampa Bay's bench?
8)Will Todd Bertuzzi restart his career in Calgary?
9)Will the Rangers be better without Jagr?
10)Will Patrick Roy still hold any records when Brodeur hangs up the pads?

skeletonframes wrote:

Skeletonframes questions:

1)Will Ovechkin rival his goals and points from last year?
2)Which team will come in last place this year?
3)Will Mats Sundin come back? If so which team?
4)Has the Central Division gotten any tougher for Detroit?
5)Will an announcer mention Sidney Crosby every 3.5 seconds?(even when he's not playing)
6)Will Mike Milbury ruin Hockey Night in Canada?
7)Will Barry Melrose make it the whole year behind Tampa Bay's bench?
8)Will Todd Bertuzzi restart his career in Calgary?
9)Will the Rangers be better without Jagr?
10)Will Patrick Roy still hold any records when Brodeur hangs up the pads?

The ones I could answer:
2) I would say the New York Islanders, DiPietro may be good, but he's not healthy enough. Add the fact another new coach, a silly owner, and a GM named Garth.. party on, Wayne! In a 3 hockey team area, it's surprising how the Islanders have completely fallen into the dumps, where even on LI nobody seems to give a sh*t. Unless they're playing the Rangers. The only excitement the Islanders generate is when they stroke themselves about the Lighthouse Project, which, given cost and taxes, may be a forgotten memory, like those Gortons Fisherman jerseys. The Panthers could compete for the Dump Cup, but I think the Islanders take it.
5) Chalk it up to how many times during a game they say it, also after scoring updates. The mark is 10 per game.
6) Why not? He's destroyed the Islanders.
7) Yes
9) Their scoring might drop, but from the local sports stations, he was pretty much a prima-dona and a wuss. The team will probably gel better.
10) At least Roy be ahead with domestic disputes, Melanie Brodeur seems to be the violent Brodeur. Seriously though, he has 4 rings and Brodeur has 3. As a Devils fan, that 4th ring seems to be getting more and more difficult to achieve, as well as playoff wins. Roy has almost 60 more wins in that category, for Marty to get to that, he needs to get 15 wins per playoff season the next 4 years, and he's 36 years old. Granted that to get the playoff wins total, that would have to include at least 2 more Cups. One thing Brodeur also does, is take things in stride- wins, losses, records, etc.. he's not a very fiery guy, but I don't know if having more emotion would necessarily make him a better player.

That's f*cking hot.
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skeletonframes wrote:
Vector wrote:

Vector's Questions:
1) Is the Northwest weaker tan it has been in years?
2) How many Canadian teams will make the playoffs?
3) Will the Hurricanes rebound from a bad year?
4) How will the Lightning do without a GM and crazy owners?
5) Is Detroit more powerful this year with the acquisition of Hossa?

1)it seems like every team in that division got worse. except, maybe, Colorado who stayed even. So it should be hotly contested, like other years. I see Minnesota and Colorado fighting for top spot there, with Vancouver mopping the cellar.

I respectfully disagree. This may be a better team that went to the second round 2 years ago. They would have made the playoffs last year if the defence didn't get injured.

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Skeletonframes questions:

1)Will Ovechkin rival his goals and points from last year?
2)Which team will come in last place this year?
3)Will Mats Sundin come back? If so which team?
4)Has the Central Division gotten any tougher for Detroit?
5)Will an announcer mention Sidney Crosby every 3.5 seconds?(even when he's not playing)
6)Will Mike Milbury ruin Hockey Night in Canada?
7)Will Barry Melrose make it the whole year behind Tampa Bay's bench?
8)Will Todd Bertuzzi restart his career in Calgary?
9)Will the Rangers be better without Jagr?
10)Will Patrick Roy still hold any records when Brodeur hangs up the pads?

1) I don't think so. I have a hard time believing that he can replicate it. Teams will be keying in on him even more.
2) The Maple Leafs are certainly trying and the season hasn't even started yet.
3) He'll come back mid-way through the season if it looks like the Leafs have a good chance to make the playoffs. Otherwise he'll most likely retire.
4) The central division has remained static. St. Louis should improve but losing Eric Johnson mitigates that improvement. Nashville has gotten worse. Chicago and Columbus have improved a tonne. Both could be playoff teams this year.
5) Canucks announcers don't mentioned Crosby unless he's playing. I like being a Canadian hockey fan.
6) No, Mulbury is an idiot but so is Don Cherry. Bold Prediction Alert: Milbury will be groomed to replace Cherry.
7) Yes. I have a feeling that the new ownership will not want to admit a that hiring their new coach was a mistake.
8) No. Bertuzzi could have a good year but he's about 6 years removed from what he can do. His body and mind aren't the same.
9) The Rangers won't be better but they won't be any worse. Naslund and the young guys help quell the lost offence. The culture change will be a good thing.
10) Not sure how many records Roy owns. I believe he has the playoffs wins by a goaltender record. If I'm correct then it's more dependant on the Devils to ice a good team. I don't see the Devils getting out of the second round this year (sorry MaxShrek).

Vector wrote:

10) Not sure how many records Roy owns. I believe he has the playoffs wins by a goaltender record. If I'm correct then it's more dependant on the Devils to ice a good team. I don't see the Devils getting out of the second round this year (sorry MaxShrek).

Hey, they either go to the finals, or lose in the first round. Getting to the second round would be an improvement!

It's here and, as always, a bit early and competing with the baseball playoffs here in the states. But since the NY teams are out, and Toronto is out, there should be a little bit of excitement somewhere.

You can count on the Canadians getting behind the NHL - regardless of whatever else is going on. Hockey is number one up here, and always will be.

That said, as a Leafs fan I've already dismissed this year as a write-off for us. Mostly I'll just be watching our young players to see who has a chance at developing into a decent hockey player. For example, Alexander Steen is going to have a chance to prove himself.

It's weird though.. one thing I could always count on out of Leafs Nation was some nutjob somewhere claiming that this was the year when all the pieces would come together and Toronto would do well. This year, however, the Leafs coaching staff and admin have made it pretty clear that we do not intend to compete. I have to say though, I kind of miss that nutjob - he was crazy as hell, but he was fun, you know?

Worst team? I took Florida in a bet with 2 friends (they have Kings and Thrashers). There's allot of mediocre teams this year though. Islanders, Leafs, Bluejackets and Blues are also teams I don't expect much from maybe switch the Jackets with the Preds but atleast 2 Western Central teams are going to stink out the joint. The league could really stand to shed a couple of teams and honestly none of us would notice unless we live there.

To be blunt if it wasn't for my 2 fantasy teams I wouldn't give a damn about this year. Long regular season with the impending repeat of Detroit after they pretty much dominated last year and then turn around and added a stud to their team.... Kinda anti climatic since they made that move really.

Contraction would be an option, but I believe some of the sunbelt teams have new arenas, leases, etc.. Might as well just watch a team fold and accept it when it happens, and see if a Canadian city wants to take a flyer on a team, save it from bankruptcy, and put a couple of teams back where they should be.

MaxShrek wrote:

Contraction would be an option, but I believe some of the sunbelt teams have new arenas, leases, etc.. Might as well just watch a team fold and accept it when it happens, and see if a Canadian city wants to take a flyer on a team, save it from bankruptcy, and put a couple of teams back where they should be.

Contraction would go a long way considering the talent level is spread pretty thin already this year with Russia now also being a competitor to steal talent. Honestly love him or hate him but when Russia has the money to overpay Jagr that's a blow to the NHL. 2-3 teams folding and 2-3 teams moving to realistic cities would help allot. Problem is the current owners aren't interested in teams folding as that lowers the value of their current overvalued asset. Honestly besides crazy rich Canadians and Jerry Bruckheimer who the hell wants to buy a hockey team.

Russia didn't overpay for Jagr. He made it clear he only wanted to play for the Rangers or Omsk. The only real loss to the KHL was Radulov. Hell, that was a blatant breach of contract.

You can't complain about Radulov after Malkin pretty much pulled the same thing to come to Pittsburgh. Sure, Malkin's lawyers did the legal maneuvering, but the two cases are very similar.

Right but the point still remains who's exactly stealing good players from the MLB, NBA and NFL.

The NBA is starting to get some stiff competition for their role players and even the whole NCAA system as young players are considering going to Europe to learn the ropes while getting paid but compared to the other real big 3 leagues Hockey could be in for some tough times trying to pretend they have enough talented players for 30 teams while Russia picks off good players.

Honestly I'm not diehard know everything fan but going through some of the rosters this year for my fantasy team was a lesson in who the hell is that guy.

oh yea Bruckheimers team to Vegas is rumored to be expansion and also maybe to K.C. Bettman is a f*cking clown. The talent level is mediocre at 30 teams and hes looking to add two more rosters so he can get to 32 teams. Guy is more interested in selling franchises then improving the league and sport.

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