Futurama - New Season Coming in 2010

PyromanFO wrote:

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I was debating spending 10 hours sorting through the forum and my Imageshack account to find this. Thank you!

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Speedhuntr wrote:

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I can't wait for the jpegs of the Futurama crew standing on the bridge silently, immediately followed by the same scene except Amy is speaking and below it says "I get it!"

VDOWhoNeedsDD wrote:

I also hate The Honking, it's really unfunny and unoriginal. Surely we can all agree on the best episode?

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But anyways, I felt this episodes were a bit meh, but I know that it's mostly because I had a huge amount of expectations for the new series. I reckon they'll get into their stride pretty quickly. I did laugh quite a lot during the first episode, so it can't have been all so bad :)

That's actually one of two episodes that I just don't watch anymore! It's well-done, but I watch Futurama to laugh, not to cry!

The other one is...dang, I can't come up with the title right now...but the Titanic episode. Not because it isn't funny--some great Zapp moments in there--but because somehow, for awhile there, EVERY TIME I'd catch the show on Comedy Central, it was that episode. Just got tired of it.

PyromanFO wrote:
SommerMatt wrote:
PyromanFO wrote:
Seriously, I'll never get this... Family Guy was never some magical "great show" before it was cancelled (most of the first season was horrible). FG has had a good share of clunkers, but there are dozens of episodes from the "post cancellation" period that are better than most of what came before.

There is a certain "character joke" based humor that was there pre-cancellation in Family Guy that is just completely missing in the later episodes. If you're a fan of that type of humor, it seems Family Guy went from "funny" to "not funny" pretty quickly. This is pretty much how I feel about FG.

Yeah, I hear people say this. Do you have any specific examples?

Stewie is a perfect example. They used to write him as this meglomaniac who was a control freak who wanted to murder his mother and hinted at him probably growing up to be gay. That's a coherent, weird character. Now he's basically a walking excuse for gay jokes.
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Okay, let's get back to the Futurama discussion!

You're right-- Stewis *IS* a perfect example. Of how the show got funnier

Stewie's first season "Pinky & the Brain" shtick is just not very funny at all, and grows more tedious as the episodes go on. Go back and re-watch those original episodes. I'll wait. See how lame that is? It's basically not supportable for a character to act like that throughout dozens of episodes. Yes, they've amped up the "gay" jokes at his expense, but they've also gone in many other directions (Stewie the inventor, Stewie the STTNG fan, Stewie the music video producer, etc.) that have helped flesh out the 2D cardboard kid from season one.

I've seen that image before, and I guess I just find it to be a dismissive "get off my lawn" sort of thing. Characters grow, things change. If you don't like the direction it's taken, then fair enough.

Besides, when was Chris ever NOT a retard?

Stewie's first season "Pinky & the Brain" shtick is just not very funny at all, and grows more tedious as the episodes go on. Go back and re-watch those original episodes. I'll wait. See how lame that is? It's basically not supportable for a character to act like that throughout dozens of episodes. Yes, they've amped up the "gay" jokes at his expense, but they've also gone in many other directions (Stewie the inventor, Stewie the STTNG fan, Stewie the music video producer, etc.) that have helped flesh out the 2D cardboard kid from season one.

That STTNG thing is a perfect example of why I find the show boring as hell now. That's not a character detail, that's an excuse to make Star Trek jokes. Do they ever bring it up again? Does it actually reveal something about the character other than "Yeah he really likes Star Trek"? It's just an excuse for jokes, which is fine if that's what you're after but that's never been what I found funny about anything from FG.

And yeah, I've re-watched the first few seasons before, they're still much funnier than the new stuff. I've moved on to American Dad, anyway. There is a very particular type of humor I found funny in Family Guy originally, there's tons of things they did that I just did not find funny at all. There are a few seasons where it really worked for me, there was enough character-based humor to really hang the rest of the zaniness on. Then they just started doing only the zaniness. The Simpsons was the same way for me.

Which is why I really love Futurama, because they've never stopped writing the characters well. Fry is different than he was from Season 1, but they showed him changing and why he changed. The relationship with Leela is a great example of that, I'm so glad they didn't cop out on that one now that they're back. Even the "zany" characters like Zoidberg have a distinct personality and they don't deviate. Hell even Scruffy is consistent. There were a few jokes in the latest episode where Leela noticed Brannigan acting out of character and they were great because they showed the writers are actually paying attention and that they care about the characters as much as I do.

Contrast Family Guy's Star Trek episode with Futurama's Star Trek episode. Why does Futurama's work so well? Because they don't just write Star Trek jokes, they write jokes about Star Trek, about it's fans, and poke fun at why it's so important to people.

A future me emailed me with what he thought of the new episodes once they were legally available in the UK. He/I really liked them. He thought that they weren't the very best of Futurama, but each of them had more than enough to make him very happy they were back.

I haven't checked yet, but are the whole writing team back? Ken Keeler and Patric Verrone and all those guys? I want more jokes about set theory and ASCII.

DudleySmith wrote:

A future me emailed me with what he thought of the new episodes once they were legally available in the UK. He/I really liked them. He thought that they weren't the very best of Futurama, but each of them had more than enough to make him very happy they were back.

I haven't checked yet, but are the whole writing team back? Ken Keeler and Patric Verrone and all those guys? I want more jokes about set theory and ASCII.

I too received such an email of course, which is why I am able to participate in this discussion...

If the writing team didn't return, that would explain a lot of things about the second episode for me.

I really loved the new episodes. They both felt a bit like modern-day Simpsons episodes, though, what with there being next to no emotional arch to the stories. It's not like every pre-cancellation episode was heavy on the emotional stuff, though, so I'm still a long ways off from declaring the show not as good as it used to be. I think maybe they're just sort of getting back into the groove.

The episode with Beck in it was the worst.

I refuse to ever watch the episode about Fry's dog ever again because I actually can't handle it. I love it to death, but never again...

Wasn't sure whether to post this here or the Lego nosalgia thread, but someone made a very impressive Lego diorama.

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More pics here.


...awesome...

If Lego came out with a Nimbus set, I would wet every pair of underwear I own...simultaneously.

Planet Express Ship and...Mom's ship, whatever it's called...would be pretty nifty too, but I've always liked the Zapper's ride.

New episodes were good. I like that I skimmed the thread last week and read something about how they might not be good, thus lowering my expectations, which were then exceeded by the actual episodes. Classic enjoyment theory!

For anyone else (aside from Jolly Bill) that doesn't have cable, the official FUTURAMA Facebook page announced that the first two episodes are up on iTunes.

PyromanFO wrote:

It's just an excuse for jokes, which is fine if that's what you're after but that's never been what I found funny about anything from FG.

To me, a laugh is a laugh. *Shrug*

I watch FG, I watch American Dad, I watch Futurama, and I watch a bunch of other animated comedies and I find things to laugh at in each one. I might not laugh at the same things in each one, but as I said, a laugh is a laugh.

I agree with you that what you're talking about applies 100% to THE SIMPSONS, though. I guess with FG I just don't care, because I never saw the first two or three seasons as some kind of golden age (as opposed to The Simpsons up until eight or nine).

So Futurama does what I never expected it to do and you guys are talking about Family Guy & American Dad? Enjoy the moment.

I liked the first two episodes. I'd consider them middle of the pack compared to the earlier seasons but it's a good start. Lots for them to build on. The best part was that it felt like Futurama. I liked the movies but they didn't carry the same weight as the episodes.

Don't care what anyone says "V-Giny" had me giggling.

Vector wrote:

So Futurama does what I never expected it to do and you guys are talking about Family Guy & American Dad? Enjoy the moment.

I liked the first two episodes. I'd consider them middle of the pack compared to the earlier seasons but it's a good start. Lots for them to build on. The best part was that it felt like Futurama. I liked the movies but they didn't carry the same weight as the episodes.

Don't care what anyone says "V-Giny" had me giggling.

What exactly did it do that you never expected it to do?

I posted my comments on these particular episodes a while back, and I agree that they just felt like... well... FUTURAMA episodes. I thought they were very enjoyable and right on par with anything from the original run.

Blame Rat Boy's negativity for us talking about Family Guy.

I blame both of you!

Edit: And I never expected Futurama to come back. Didn't think the appeal was broad enough.

SommerMatt wrote:

I agree with you that what you're talking about applies 100% to THE SIMPSONS, though. I guess with FG I just don't care, because I never saw the first two or three seasons as some kind of golden age (as opposed to The Simpsons up until eight or nine).

I disagree about this, I still think the Simpsons is still as good as the golden age but has changed over time but still is as good, I rewatched the first two episodes of Futurama and I think they are even better after rewatching them, I have to admit I felt that way about the original 4 seasons, they just got better with rewatching them, I look forward to seeing where this season goes.

The difference between The Simpsons and Family Guy is that the characters in The Simpsons are so well-defined that the humor still mostly comes from their personality quirks even though the vast majority of new episodes contain no emotional arch to the stories, and the characters in Family Guy have only ever been one-dimensional joke vehicles. I don't have a problem with one-dimensional joke vehicles, as anyone who has ever read my idiotic Max Applesauce stuff could have guess, but when you've only got three or four jokes that you recycle constantly, they stop being funny quickly.

Although I really enjoyed the last two episodes of Futurama, it felt like the characters were barely there. They mostly did whatever was needed to advance to the next scene, rather than what was true to their personalities. They didn't do anything so out-of-character that it was bad, though, and I'm going to continue assuming that this is just a byproduct of a staff that hasn't quite settled back into the Futurama groove yet. We'll get episodes heavy on the genuine character-based story-telling soon enough. I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one episode centered around Fry and Leela's relationship, which are usually my favorites even when they're not as funny as some of the crazier sci-fi stories.

Good News Everybody! Best. Ratings. Ever.

SommerMatt wrote:

For anyone else (aside from Jolly Bill) that doesn't have cable, the official FUTURAMA Facebook page announced that the first two episodes are up on iTunes.

So, they didn't announce it for me? Aw man...

Actually, I did see that, and have since paid up for the entire season in advance as opposed to pirating it online. Thanks iTunes/Comedy Central!!

I have to agree with the majority that the first episode was very good and a good transition back to the series. Liked the plot twists. The second episode was a return to form of many of the "that was funny, but mostly filler" episodes. I think it layed the groundwork for future character archs while mostly just giving us a few gags. Please sweet Futurama Gods, don't have that character arch be a breakup between Leela and Fry! They've shown a pretty strong commitment to that, and it really WORKS dammit. I'll be crushed if it goes all sitcommy. They were toying with my emotions in that first episode.

Edit to add: that actually is proof to me that the writing has gotten much better. They really started doing character development in the last season before cancellation, and they seem to continuing the multi-episode archs.

Poopiter! (I'm just now remembering that they renamed Uranus to Rectum in the intervening time period. Perfect time for a call back to the old episodes' jokes missed!)

Jolly Bill wrote:
SommerMatt wrote:

For anyone else (aside from Jolly Bill) that doesn't have cable, the official FUTURAMA Facebook page announced that the first two episodes are up on iTunes.

So, they didn't announce it for me? Aw man...

Actually, I did see that, and have since paid up for the entire season in advance as opposed to pirating it online. Thanks iTunes/Comedy Central!!

I have to agree with the majority that the first episode was very good and a good transition back to the series. Liked the plot twists. The second episode was a return to form of many of the "that was funny, but mostly filler" episodes. I think it layed the groundwork for future character archs while mostly just giving us a few gags. Please sweet Futurama Gods, don't have that character arch be a breakup between Leela and Fry! They've shown a pretty strong commitment to that, and it really WORKS dammit. I'll be crushed if it goes all sitcommy. They were toying with my emotions in that first episode.

Edit to add: that actually is proof to me that the writing has gotten much better. They really started doing character development in the last season before cancellation, and they seem to continuing the multi-episode archs.

Poopiter! (I'm just now remembering that they renamed Uranus to Rectum in the intervening time period. Perfect time for a call back to the old episodes' jokes missed!)

I think I'm going to get the season off of iTunes too. I'm soon to be without cable and will have a long bus ride. How much does it cost for the full season? I have no problem spending money on Futurama. The more support we give, the more likely we'll get a couple of additional seasons.

As I recall it was $21.99 for Standard Def and $31.99 for HD. Kinda tricky, since they took me to the HD selection first when I clicked on "Season 7", had a WTF moment while I looked for the selection to buy SD.

Jolly Bill wrote:

Poopiter! (I'm just now remembering that they renamed Uranus to Rectum in the intervening time period. Perfect time for a call back to the old episodes' jokes missed!)

"Urectum", actually. And it was on the map of the solar system showing the approach of V-Giny.

Nice! Glad to know it's there!

VDOWhoNeedsDD wrote:

I also hate The Honking, it's really unfunny and unoriginal. Surely we can all agree on the best episode?

Of course we can. Everyone who votes for Luck of the Fryrish, raise your hand.

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See, even Seymour agrees with me. Good boy, Seymour. Your episode was good, too, all except for Bender being an even bigger jerk than usual right around the time his jerk schtick was starting to get old.

Re: the new episodes:

The first one was pretty good all around, and had some really good Farnsworth lines.

The second one was pretty good up until the bit where Zap and Leela got "stranded," then it kinda fell apart. Not the best episode ever, not the worst either (that would be Wild Green Yonder).

Luck of the Fryrish is also amazing, I will look past your misappropriation of Seymour's cuteness.

I dunno... JURASSIC BARK can make me cry, but it's just so obviously intended to be manipulative that I can't in good conscience call it the best episode of the series.

I can go with Luck of the Fryrish. Pulls at the heartstrings without breaking them, a la Jurassic Bark.