Sony Press Conference Catch-All

God of War Demo: I was hoping the lava giant would get eaten by another lava giant twice his size.

God of War 3 and Last Guardian were my biggest take aways. Assassin's Creed looks great but that demo makes me think that they haven't bothered to really address the bigger complaints about AC. Uncharted 2 looks ... like Uncharted 2.

PSP NoGo is over-priced, HOME still blows, MAG is still very Eh, and I am unconvinced by Robert and Anton's Magical Dildo.

Not a bad Presser, though. Not exactly the BAM! that was Microsoft but still good.

Higgledy wrote:

God of War Demo: I was hoping the lava giant would get eaten by another lava giant twice his size.

And then have an ice monster four times the size of the second Lava monster run in and take a snow dump on the Lava Monster, and then have a Chimp of War come in and destroy the Ice Monster.

no SOE announcements Wanted to see more Agency and DCO

They did mention that FF14 was going to be online though...

I like Sony's press conference more than Microsoft's. Modnation Racing looked great. I think kart racing is more approachable than platforming, especially the platforming in LBP. It could be a mario kart with unlimited levels.

The Last guardian looked incredible. I also though that the Sony motion control stuff was better than Nintendo's and Xbox. When I saw it, my first reaction was that I wanted to play with it.

larrymadill wrote:
Higgledy wrote:

God of War Demo: I was hoping the lava giant would get eaten by another lava giant twice his size.

And then have an ice monster four times the size of the second Lava monster run in and take a snow dump on the Lava Monster, and then have a Chimp of War come in and destroy the Ice Monster.

They should have hired us to make the demo. We could have blown them away with an endless line of monsters eating monsters in creative ways.

I thought Jack's final lines were quite ironic. How many years has it been that they have only been able to ask people to trust in the 10 year vision and imagine the future potential of the Ps3, while MS has focused on games that will be available in the near term.

Mod Racer Nation was the one that caught my attention, though I dont know if it will have legs. (err wheels)
I'm not an ICO / Collosus fan, but I know you guys will be excited for that one.
God of War 3 is more God of War, besides more enemies and vibrant pixels on screen not sure what the improvements really are.
GT5, how will they ever profit on that. It's been in development forever and a day. Maybe via licensing.

I'll be curious to see if they can chip away at wii install base with their motion controller. Nintendo did the leg work for getting a motion controller in folks hands. Now marry that to HD and it should have potential.

I think the MS presentation was stronger. Totally subjective as the 360 has the games I personally want to play.
At least Sony did better than previous years. Jack's presentation was definitely better rehearsed.

The trailer for The Last Guardian (Trico) was beautiful. That may be the game I buy a PS3 for.

Swat wrote:
Aaron D. wrote:

Am I correct in thinking that they just gave the handheld a cosmetic makeover and sent it out the door at $250?

The way I see it, you get less of a system in new wrapper for a hundred bucks more. That can't play used physical games you can pick up for cheap at the flea market. But it's shiny, or something. And downloads, which you can already do via PSN on existing PSPs. Yeah, it's kinda goofy in all sorts of illogical ways. This sucker should be $149 period.

For $249, it should've been a PSP 2. Add a touchscreen, second analog, internal memory, whatever. A repackaged PSP with 16gb internal memory isn't worth $249.

Seemed like a lot of big "wait until 2010" games, but I'm looking forward to Last Guardian, God of War and some more of the games they blew through in their montages. (White Knight Chronicles, Demon Souls.) They didn't give me the surge of "wow" that I got with MS yesterday, but they also (thankfully) didn't hit me with a blood pressure monitoring cuff device, so I'm coming away happy, but not drooling.

IUMogg wrote:

I like Sony's press conference more than Microsoft's. Modnation Racing looked great. I think kart racing is more approachable than platforming, especially the platforming in LBP. It could be a mario kart with unlimited levels.

The Last guardian looked incredible. I also though that the Sony motion control stuff was better than Nintendo's and Xbox. When I saw it, my first reaction was that I wanted to play with it.

Agreed. I'm impressed that using the Playstation Eye (PS3 EyeToy) and that wand thing they could have such accurate controls. Granted it was all tech demos but I think they managed to show it better than MS or Nintendo were able to show their techs. Like you said, it looked like something you just wanted to play with; I think the new Wii Sports has that look as well. Nothing MS showed of their motion controller gave me that reaction.

I thought Sony had a great showing. Uncharted 2 looks frickin' amazing, live MAG 256 player demo was impressive (although I thought the game itself didn't look to be anything too special yet) especially since it'll be on the show floor as well, new Metal Gear Solid for the PSP, new Rockstar exclusive, Gran Turismo 5 and PSP, God of War 3 demo, The Last Guardian trailer... fantastic stuff.

Then toss in the ModNation racing game which really surprised me. I love that LittleBigPlanet is inspiring these user-content games and making a track in this looks way easier and more fun than building a level in LBP. It just looks like it'd be a ton of fun to play around with.

I'm surprised how little time they spent on the PSP Go. I am really interested in it and was hoping they'd showcase it a little more; it was more of an afterthought in the whole presentation.

Overall, though, I thought it was a great presentation, probably the best of the three.

Higgledy wrote:
larrymadill wrote:
Higgledy wrote:

God of War Demo: I was hoping the lava giant would get eaten by another lava giant twice his size.

And then have an ice monster four times the size of the second Lava monster run in and take a snow dump on the Lava Monster, and then have a Chimp of War come in and destroy the Ice Monster.

They should have hired us to make the demo. We could have blown them away with an endless line of monsters eating monsters in creative ways.

This makes me think of a fantasy-genre turducken.

A gnoll, stuffed inside a goblin, in a troglodyte, in an ogre, in a troll, in a giant. Which makes a gnoblodgrollant!

Dreaded Gazebo wrote:

I'm surprised how little time they spent on the PSP Go. I am really interested in it and was hoping they'd showcase it a little more; it was more of an afterthought in the whole presentation.

Probably because they really don't have that much to go on. Realistically, there's almost nothing in the unit to actually entice people to the system. 16GB is less than you think for PSP games-it's maybe 20 or so, total-and Sony seems committed to selling the games for the same price as the UMD.

Maybe I'm just pissed because I bought a PSP 3000 right after it was released 8 months ago, and they're doing a brand new iteration, albeit with no UMD, a smaller screen, an idiotic overall design(not a clamshell, but with a cell phone-like sliding screen), and bluetooth. Even Nintendo, who are the champions of stupidly fast hardware release cycles(2-3 years between iterations) hasn't done something like this.

Our eyes didn't deceive us: Fat Princess PSP.

I'm very looking forward to MAG. The trailer on PSN shows it off a bit better than the live demo at the conference did. It certainly owes plenty to Battlefield and ET: QW. But it also looks bunny hop and dolphin dive free.

I was pretty impressed by PS3 stuff, I can see myself buying one maybe this time next year.

I'm just bummed there was no GT5 release date.

I will cheerfully pay money for The Last Guardian, God of War 3, and Uncharted 2. Everything else can go spit.

Final Fantasy XIV is my biggest announcement of E3 by far. FFXI was the best MMO I have ever played hands down. I want more info now!

Was there a PS3 price drop announcement? No mention in the thread that I see.

As to $250 for the PSP Go, I'm not sure Sony's learned any lesson from their current marketshare with the PS3. Price does matter. PS3 has a solid line-up of games now, with some great exclusive. And yet each month it drops about because the cost to entry keeps it from getting a big push, despite whatever awesome game it's bundled with. $250 is too much, I think, but we'll of course see what the market thinks. I will say that the excuse of the 16 gb harddrive is the reason for the cost seems hard to believe. I can get a 16 gb flashdrive for $35. Using this justify the price seems insufficient; it'll seem all the more insufficient 6 months from now as space continues to drop.

But they really don't get it, at all. A lower price would have to, in my uninformed mind, make a huge difference in sales for the product. Maybe not at launch, but 6 months in. And they should want this to be in as many hands as possible. When you can only buy games through their stores, when you can eliminate used game sales, when you have a monopoly on new purchases-- you've got a good thing going. They really need to view the device as the gatekeeper to controlling people's media purchasing options.

Stric9 wrote:

FFXI was the best MMO I have ever played hands down.

Really?

Is it because it is Final Fantasy, or because it does certain things so well?

What are those things?

Do you like, or dislike the leveling down?

A recession/depression is a good time to be selling a $400 console and a $250 handheld.

I don't have a PSP; there are games for it I'm interested in, but it's never quite been enough to make the plunge. When I saw Kojima talking about Peace Walker, and then saw the clip of PSP games (esp. the new Monster Hunter), with the stuff that's already out, I thought "looks like I'm getting a Go." I didn't know the price point then, and now that I do I'm back to "eh."

Here is Sony's problem: I have the 250 dollars to spend if I wanted to. It's not that I can't afford it; it's that the higher price makes me demand another level of value (games, functionality, etc.) from it before I buy in. Sony seems to still be thinking in terms of "if they have the money, and like the product, they must buy." We really can like the product and not buy it, if the price seems unreasonable.

Press conference was pretty meh. Uncharted took top honors imo and a nod to God of War obviously. Everything else was weak. I'm really surprised they didn't dedicate anytime stage time to Heavy Rain, which Sony has been bragging about for quite some time. I wonder why...

93_confirmed wrote:

Press conference was pretty meh. Uncharted took top honors imo and a nod to God of War obviously. Everything else was weak. I'm really surprised they didn't dedicate anytime stage time to Heavy Rain, which Sony has been bragging about for quite some time. I wonder why...

I was curious about that too. Maybe because its an adventure style game and they are worried about demo'ing. Especially at a Press Conference at E3. But then again if they were concerned about that why did they spend three thousands years on a Cart Racing game I will never buy.

CptGlanton wrote:

Here is Sony's problem: I have the 250 dollars to spend if I wanted to. It's not that I can't afford it; it's that the higher price makes me demand another level of value (games, functionality, etc.) from it before I buy in. Sony seems to still be thinking in terms of "if they have the money, and like the product, they must buy." We really can like the product and not buy it, if the price seems unreasonable.

They also don't seem to realize that they are competing against the iPhone (and iTouch I guess) for wallet space. Which is $50 cheaper right now than the PSP False Start, and is a phone among a myriad of other things. Most people I know don't have $200 to toss around right now, but if they did almost everyone says their next big purchase is an iPhone. I can't see PSP Stuck At the Starting Line supplanting that mind space anytime soon.

So, no price drop for the PS3, no FF7, a new exclusive Final Fantasy that's just an MMO, and a new version of their half-dead handheld console with less functionality but a higher price tag?

My friends, I don't fully understand Japan. I know it's a culture of extreme propriety and politeness, and I barely understand subtext in my OWN culture, never mind theirs.

...But I'm pretty sure Sony is telling us, "f*** you."

LobsterMobster wrote:

So, no price drop for the PS3, no FF7, a new exclusive Final Fantasy that's just an MMO, and a new version of their console with less functionality but a higher price tag?

I thought they said FF7 would be on PSN this week or something? Or was a hallucinating?

larrymadill wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

So, no price drop for the PS3, no FF7, a new exclusive Final Fantasy that's just an MMO, and a new version of their console with less functionality but a higher price tag?

I thought they said FF7 would be on PSN this week or something? Or was a hallucinating?

I think it will be available tonight sometime.

Oh. Well, they've got that going for them, then.

larrymadill wrote:

They also don't seem to realize that they are competing against the iPhone (and iTouch I guess) for wallet space. Which is $50 cheaper right now than the PSP False Start, and is a phone among a myriad of other things. Most people I know don't have $200 to toss around right now, but if they did almost everyone says their next big purchase is an iPhone. I can't see PSP Stuck At the Starting Line supplanting that mind space anytime soon.

That is a really good point. An iPod Touch is a hell of a lot more attractive for that price point. I can get the games, have a good music and video player, and even wi-fi access to the web. And then slip it into my pocket even easier than the the PSP-uh-oh. It's going to be a bit more ($229 for the 8 gig and $299 for the 16 gig), but it packs a lot more value.

The sad thing is, I was one of those PSP owners that thought the idea of a smaller PSP that emphasized downloadable content seemed like a winner. But I had heard that it would be cheaper than the PSP, not $250! All they have done is remind me that an iPod touch is still a good option for me.

Jayhawker wrote:

But I had heard that it would be cheaper than the PSP, not $250!

That's because you've made the mistake of applying logic to the situation.