"Forza 3" Catch All

EvilDead wrote:

I don't think so. If I don't want to use the feature I won't. Do yourself a favor and don't read the comments. Myself and others have noted that their is a fanboy war going on between this and GT5.

I can't help it... it's like watching a train wreck! Sure it horrible, but I just can't stop looking at it.

I don't think so. If I don't want to use the feature, I won't. Do yourself a favor and don't read the comments. Myself and others have noted that their is a fanboy war going on between this and GT5.

Edit: I also wouldn't be surprised to see them patch this in as a toggle on the assists screen.

EvilDead wrote:

Myself and others have noted that their is a fanboy war going on between this and GT5.

It'll be hilarious if Polyphony adds the rewind feature to GT5!

As for the fanboy war, I just don't get it. I love the Gran Turismo games, and I love the Forza games. Both franchises offer awesome, fun, deep racing sims. What is there to hate on?

EvilDead wrote:
Thin_J wrote:
LupusUmbrus wrote:

GameTrailer Review - 9.2

Nifty.

I do hate myself a little for drifting down and reading comments on the video review. Jesus that's depressing. It might as well be Youtube.

Yeah, they need to be disabled by default. Its hard not to read them when they are right on the bottom of the screen.

Sometimes I get a kick out of reading the vitriol, sometimes I wonder why people even bother gaming when they have so much disdain for the competition. But I agree, there should be a disable function.

It would at least alleviate some of the ever-increasing clutter splashed on GT's pages. I'm getting really disheartened at the barrage of advertising (usually all fully animated adds) crowding around the game media window I'm trying to watch. It's distracting and often makes everything stutter as they compete for bandwith.

/rant

I'm not sure I understand why one would want to disable the rewind feature. If they gave you a little extra cash for not using it in a race, like they do with the other assists, that might be a nice little perk, but I think they specifically made the decision not to discourage its use. If you don't want to use it, just don't. The general discussion of their use almost reminds me of the talk surrounding the vita-chambers in Bioshock. Using the rewind effectively disqualifies you from posting a top time on the leaderboards, and it's not like we'll be able to use it in online races, so you aren't impacting anyone but yourself. Do what's fun for you.

Farscry wrote:

As for the fanboy war, I just don't get it. I love the Gran Turismo games, and I love the Forza games. Both franchises offer awesome, fun, deep racing sims. What is there to hate on?

They're Fanboys. One console must CLEARLY be better than the other, or their entire life is forfeit.

Prederick wrote:
Farscry wrote:

As for the fanboy war, I just don't get it. I love the Gran Turismo games, and I love the Forza games. Both franchises offer awesome, fun, deep racing sims. What is there to hate on?

They're Fanboys. One console must CLEARLY be better than the other, or their entire life is forfeit.

But, but... I just don't get it.

Soooo I really haven't liked my experience with sim racers in the past. I bought Gran Turismo 3 on PS2 because everyone was ranting and raving about it. I did the starter race over and over, saving to buy a Viper, my dream car when I was 16. Once I bought the Viper, I crammed it full of the best stuff to make it fast as hell. I could no longer control the car at all, though, and quit the game in a huff.

This game's reviews, graphics, community possibilities, and the number of cars available have me strongly enticed. I've also enjoyed the demo, brief as it is. The assists also make me think it'll be able to teach me how to drive properly, though I'm usually too proud to leave stuff like that on.

Do you guys think I should buy Forza 3?

Blind_Evil wrote:

Soooo I really haven't liked my experience with sim racers in the past. I bought Gran Turismo 3 on PS2 because everyone was ranting and raving about it. I did the starter race over and over, saving to buy a Viper, my dream car when I was 16. Once I bought the Viper, I crammed it full of the best stuff to make it fast as hell. I could no longer control the car at all, though, and quit the game in a huff.

This game's reviews, graphics, community possibilities, and the number of cars available have me strongly enticed. I've also enjoyed the demo, brief as it is. The assists also make me think it'll be able to teach me how to drive properly, though I'm usually too proud to leave stuff like that on.

Do you guys think I should buy Forza 3?

I would say that, at the very least, you should give it a rent if you enjoyed the demo. There was generally positive feedback from players such as yourself who tried Forza 2 about how it eased them into the sim racing world, and it sounds like they've continued their effort to make the game accessible with Forza 3. Did you try racing the Porche in the demo at all?

The Flying Lizard? Yeah. I finished first on medium with that, the Ferrari, and second with the Audi.

Edit: Wanting to get the more realistic experience, I started ramping up the difficulty. I did fine on hard, finished first again. On advanced, though, I did horribly. I don't drive a stick in real life, and shifting in the game (and downshifting for turns, then up again) threw me way off. Also, I spun out quite a few times driving the Porsche. Thoughts?

Blind_Evil wrote:

The Flying Lizard? Yeah. I finished first on medium with that, the Ferrari, and second with the Audi.

Edit: Wanting to get the more realistic experience, I started ramping up the difficulty. I did fine on hard, finished first again. On advanced, though, I did horribly. I don't drive a stick in real life, and shifting in the game (and downshifting for turns, then up again) threw me way off. Also, I spun out quite a few times driving the Porsche. Thoughts?

I'd skip the pre-defined difficulty settings and try the individual settings. Don't think of the assists as crutches -- tonnes of modern sports cars have ABS and traction control, and automatics are becoming more common as well, so don't sweat it if you think you're not playing the game "right" by having those on. Manual transmission is definitely something you can learn though -- I did as I played Forza 2.

If you do want to turn off TSC and ABS, the main thing to remember is to be gentle on the controls. Squeeze on the brakes and the accelerator, rather than pulling the triggers all the way in straight away. It's not something that comes naturally, but it does come with practice.

Thing is, I watched Giant Bomb's (that's my editorial site of preference) Quick Look of the game, and 1) the cars seemed stupid expensive 2) they said playing the game on expert netted you double the rewards for every race. I'm not sure if the rewards taper up from medium-hard-advanced. If not, it's expert or bust really.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Thing is, I watched Giant Bomb's (that's my editorial site of preference) Quick Look of the game, and 1) the cars seemed stupid expensive 2) they said playing the game on expert netted you double the rewards for every race. I'm not sure if the rewards taper up from medium-hard-advanced. If not, it's expert or bust really.

Oh, the rewards definitely taper up, or at least they did in Forza 2, and I'm sure they will in Forza 3 as well. Each assist has a percentage attached to it, which adds to your score. For instance, in Forza 2, switching the damage from limited to simulation gives you +10%, and switching from auto to manual also adds +10% I think. With those options set, you score 20% more for a race than you would score without them on. You can therefore tweak your assists to your own liking, and get rewarded a bonus amount commensurate with that.

I won't worry about that too much, though. Even if you just get the standard rewards for racing, you'll have a fair bit of cash coming in, and while the crazy supercars are indeed pricey, there are tonnes of cars that won't be. Also, the game is going to give you a heap of free cars. If it's like Forza 2, you'll also be rewarded with discounts on cars as you play.

Basically, I'd say definitely buy the game (it really turned me on to simulation racers, where the GT games hadn't before), tweak it to your skill level, and don't sweat the money thing.

Some of the video reviews I saw said that you could double your rewards if you took all the assists off and ramp the difficulty all the way up. It sounds extreme, but then I never thought the rewards were large enough in Forza 2, so I kind of like the sound of it.

Amazon's FORZA 3 ULTIMATE RACING BUNDLE ZOMG.

I got an email.

While I was considering buying a racing wheel if I like the game enough, 350 bones seems like a lot for a chair, even if it does net you the game for free and the wheel for half off.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Amazon's FORZA 3 ULTIMATE RACING BUNDLE ZOMG.

I got an email.

While I was considering buying a racing wheel if I like the game enough, 350 bones seems like a lot for a chair, even if it does net you the game for free and the wheel for half off.

Yea, it's not a bad deal. Mrs AnimeJ would shoot me for that, though.

Farscry wrote:
Prederick wrote:
Farscry wrote:

As for the fanboy war, I just don't get it. I love the Gran Turismo games, and I love the Forza games. Both franchises offer awesome, fun, deep racing sims. What is there to hate on?

They're Fanboys. One console must CLEARLY be better than the other, or their entire life is forfeit.

But, but... I just don't get it. :(

Try lowering your IQ 60-80 points. I hear a claw hammer's great for that. Eventually, you should be able to completely understand where these people are coming from.

Sweet christ am I amped for this one. Are we having a release-night/night-after-release game night? We should? I think we should. We totally should.

Night after would be good, but that'd mean selling Mrs AnimeJ on Live Gold(on top of having already sold her on the LE) for me. :/

Prederick wrote:

Sweet christ am I amped for this one. Are we having a release-night/night-after-release game night? We should? I think we should. We totally should.

Me too. Yes. Yes. Me too. Yes we should.

Thin_J wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Sweet christ am I amped for this one. Are we having a release-night/night-after-release game night? We should? I think we should. We totally should.

Me too. Yes. Yes. Me too. Yes we should.

What you guys said. But with more crashes and stuff. Plus I still think we should do a 24 hours of Le Mans type race at some point too.

That all sounds like a hell of a lot of fun, but I don't think I'll have the competency to do it, given I haven't played the series in any appreciable depth.

Blind_Evil wrote:

That all sounds like a hell of a lot of fun, but I don't think I'll have the competency to do it, given I haven't played the series in any appreciable depth.

I've heard that in Forza 2, people like us ran people like Lupus off the road.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it to a launch night game due to timezone differences, but I'll try I'd also be up for something the Friday night after launch, even if it means missing Gears 'n' Beers for a week. On the plus side, I'll have the game a few days earlier than most of you -- it comes out on the 23rd here, rather than the 27th -- so being an Aussie gamer is paying off for once.

AnimeJ wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

That all sounds like a hell of a lot of fun, but I don't think I'll have the competency to do it, given I haven't played the series in any appreciable depth.

I've heard that in Forza 2, people like us ran people like Lupus off the road.

Or turned around and came at us head on. But to be truthful we usually tried to run clean races. Tried.

I'm up for a release night get together. I don't play enough multiplayer on my 360. I even went and got a 360 steering wheel the other day and all I can say is OMG where have you been all my life! It completely changes driving games for me. It is an absolute blast. I used it on the forza 3 demo, dirt 2 demo, forza 2 and nfs:shift and it's just crazy fun with the wheel. To top it off, I can play in cockpit mode and actually drive manual now, which in the past with joysticks and pads I could never do. I can't believe it took me all these years to invest in a driving peripheral. I recommend it to anyone who enjoys driving games.

Did you get the standard MS Wireless wheel? Heard almost nothing but good things about it. Still, the price is a little intimidating. I think if I were to buy that I might end up buying more racing games to justify the purchase.

LupusUmbrus wrote:
AnimeJ wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

That all sounds like a hell of a lot of fun, but I don't think I'll have the competency to do it, given I haven't played the series in any appreciable depth.

I've heard that in Forza 2, people like us ran people like Lupus off the road.

Or turned around and came at us head on. But to be truthful we usually tried to run clean races. Tried.

There's a fine line between "hilarious chaos" and "actively trolling", which I think we walked quite well. Anyway, the pile-up would usually happen in the first turn when everyone forgot that if your cars are all about to make a turn, if they all try to brake at the same point in the turn, bad things happen.

Also, anytime anyone tried to overtake anyone on anything that wasn't a straightaway.

I would be up for a release night party. I'm stoked for this game. And it'd be fun since we'd all have noob cars.

Yes Blind evil, the MS one. It's $100 and I have to say its worth every damn penny. I would say I WILL buy more driving games because it not only enhanced the experience, it has made me a better driver. Alot of these newer driving games are way harder then i'm used to (or i'm just getting older) but It feels more like real driving so the game becomes easier to play.

Of course, if you have a chance to try someone else's wheel or if a store has one set up, do that first. I bought mine blind, but I knew I could return it. I think if you never tried one for a home console, like me, you will be pleasntly surprised.

Bring your wallet. =)

Faceless Clock wrote:

I would be up for a release night party. I'm stoked for this game. And it'd be fun since we'd all have noob cars.

I am up for it to but I really suck but I look forward to playing with you all