Random thing you loathe right now.

r013nt0 wrote:

But calling Chicago the midwest is disingenuous at best, and a pejorative at worst.

What do you consider the Midwest? Asking for a northern blue state that would rather be Canadian.

r013nt0 wrote:

Yeah, Oysters aren't overly expensive here in Chicago.

But calling Chicago the midwest is disingenuous at best, and a pejorative at worst.

I didn't move to Chicago until my late 20's. Before that I lived an hour south of I-80. That's pretty midwest.

JLS wrote:

What do you consider the Midwest? Asking for a northern blue state that would rather be Canadian.

Imagine the Midwest as a large sea. Of corn. With little bible-shaped fish swimming everywhere, ruining everyone's day. Chicago is an island. A safe haven. Sure, it's in the sea, but it ain't water.

yer ass is in the midwest with the rest of us, sorry

carrotpanic wrote:

yer ass is in the midwest with the rest of us, sorry

Come now. You should let Storebrand New York have its delusion.

Various stuff about wine

I dove into the science on this a few years ago, it's nutty. The big two were, the study Rawk mentioned where oenology students didn't realize they'd been given a white with red food coloring, and there was a wine maker who did a bunch of analysis on how consistent judges at wine competitions are (i.e. whether different judges rate the same wine similarly, and whether a given judge rates different wines similarly). His results were basically that the ratings were not much different from random chance.

There was also a really interesting one where (IIRC, can't find the link) they had people smell a certain chemical, some from a bottle labeled "blue cheese" and others from a bottle labeled "vomit", and of course the people reacted the smell differently. But the interesting thing was that brain scans suggested that different parts of their brains were being used to make the decision.

I think the takeaway is, we we tend to imagine that our senses and our judgments are separate (or at least separable), but the truth is that they're part of the same process. When you taste a thing, your expectations about it are as much a factor as the information your taste buds send to your brain, and anyone who imagines otherwise is probably deceiving themselves.

Vector wrote:

Apparently someone stole a Christmas ornament we hung outside our townhouse.

People going to people like bad people. I put a tile tracker and one of those window alarms on my outdoor decoration. Hmmm that cost more than the decoration now that I think about. Well I wasn't using them for anything else. People be stealing xmas stuff around here. A giant light up Joy sign was taken. They cut the cord on it so it is useless now unless they re wire it. A lady had the decoration given to her by her late stepdad taken. It was something really weird but she didn't have a picture of it. Think she said it was like seven feet tall.

Just go take some decorations from someone else, its the circle of theft.

I was woken by someone trying to unlock our door at 3am last night. We recently moved into an old block of flats with some businesses around the courtyard, so there have been some weird things but...this was the weirdest.

I peaked out the viewing hole in the door and could see a guy with a flashlight in a tidy black shirt and tie. I watched for a little while not really sure if I should yell out or just play it cool. He put a key in a few times, rattled the doorknob and then called someone on his phone: "number X right?" (same as ours) "across from the Y" yep, we're across from that. Then he just went downstairs and left us alone.

I'm hoping the best and that he was trying to find the number 3 on the other side (the whole block is on a corner so there's another 3 in the courtyard) but it was weird and scary. I didn't sleep much the rest of the night. I really wish I'd said something in hindsight, but I didn't want to put myself or my partner in any more danger. I was half asleep and not thinking.

I've got a friend coming to stay tonight just in case there's something wrong here and he tries again tonight. But otherwise I don't know what to do. Innocent mistake or not, it really spooked me.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
carrotpanic wrote:

yer ass is in the midwest with the rest of us, sorry

Come now. You should let Storebrand New York have its delusion.

Hard to argue with that as a local. But yeah if illinois didn't have Chicago it would basically be idaho 2. And hey I like store brand goods...

master0 wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
carrotpanic wrote:

yer ass is in the midwest with the rest of us, sorry

Come now. You should let Storebrand New York have its delusion.

Hard to argue with that as a local. But yeah if illinois didn't have Chicago it would basically be idaho 2. And hey I like store brand goods...

then again, that would make Brooklyn just West Long Island.

I think they'd prefer to be Idaho 3...

fenomas wrote:

There was also a really interesting one where (IIRC, can't find the link) they had people smell a certain chemical, some from a bottle labeled "blue cheese" and others from a bottle labeled "vomit", and of course the people reacted the smell differently. But the interesting thing was that brain scans suggested that different parts of their brains were being used to make the decision.

here's one: LINK

Baron Of Hell wrote:
Vector wrote:

Apparently someone stole a Christmas ornament we hung outside our townhouse.

People going to people like bad people. I put a tile tracker and one of those window alarms on my outdoor decoration. Hmmm that cost more than the decoration now that I think about. Well I wasn't using them for anything else. People be stealing xmas stuff around here. A giant light up Joy sign was taken. They cut the cord on it so it is useless now unless they re wire it. A lady had the decoration given to her by her late stepdad taken. It was something really weird but she didn't have a picture of it. Think she said it was like seven feet tall.

Just go take some decorations from someone else, its the circle of theft.

Did this happen about 34 years ago? If so, that was me. I’m sorry.

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Uni,
I bet you’re right about the guy making a mistake and trying the wrong door of the wrong complex. Still, it really sucks when something like that happens and it rattles your sense of security. Stay brave and kind.

The one dream that I have occasionally is being in college again. Usually working out something annoying. Worse it takes me a few minutes to realize it was a dream after waking. Oddly annoying.

carrotpanic wrote:

yer ass is in the midwest with the rest of us, sorry

As somebody who regularly leaves the Chicago area to visit forest preserves and state parks in Wisconsin, Indiana, and the rest of Illinois... Nah. It's not the same at all.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Come now. You should let Storebrand New York have its delusion.

I've said it before, but I'd rather spend an entire month living in a vegan commune, wearing a "Meat is good, actually, convince me otherwise" t-shirt, than spend a single second hearing yet another New Yorker tell me why they imagine NYC is any more special than any other city on Earth.

r013nt0 wrote:
carrotpanic wrote:

yer ass is in the midwest with the rest of us, sorry

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Come now. You should let Storebrand New York have its delusion.

I've said it before, but I'd rather spend an entire month living in a vegan commune, wearing a "Meat is good, actually, convince me otherwise" t-shirt, than spend a single second hearing yet another New Yorker tell me why they imagine NYC is any more special than any other city on Earth.

Can you all be right?

I took a wine tasting course in college, several times (we had a Winter Session, so this sort of thing went on). We learned to identify the various flavors we could taste in a wine, and what kind of wine we liked. We also learned how wine was made.

What's interesting is that we were only working with what we could taste. That's not fake. Frequently, we found $8 bottles that beat the pants off of a special $40 bottle someone was sharing with the class. Frequently enough that my approach to wine is to find the best inexpensive bottle of a particular type, and that's my go-to. Seems simple enough. I have no desire to justify my purchase of a more expensive wine by making stuff up. In my experience, there are very few high price wines that are worth the price *difference*; they often have a bit more flavor, but just a bit.

The exceptions, though, I will cross the street to buy. I've hit one or two each decade that are so good I would just buy a bottle on sight. But again, they seem split between low price and high price. So the idea that price is not really an indicator of quality seems to hold.

The one thing I will say is that Whiskers Blake is one of the world's finest Port style fortified wines, and it's definitely not expensive.

SallyNasty wrote:

Can you all be right?

Having grown up in Bloomington, IL (aka The Land of Corn & State Farm) the answer is most definitely yes. All of it.

Chicago is underrated as a big city, but also Chicago is full of itself; ALSO Chicago is still definitely in the Midwest and is Midwestier than other big cities, but it is also not of the Midwest.

Clear things up?

Ranger Rick wrote:

ALSO Chicago is still definitely in the Midwest and is Midwestier than other big cities, but it is also not of the Midwest.

Clear things up?

hmm...

Chicago is either the most midwestern of the eastern (culturally, not geographically) cities or the most eastern city of the midwest?

which category you put it in depends on your experience of it.

Migraines. Especially ones that cause me to dry heave from the pain because there is nothing else left in my stomach to empty. Sigh.

The only way to buy wine is to go to a tasting and buy whatever tastes good to you. I look forward to doing this again sometime late next year.

r013nt0 wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

Come now. You should let Storebrand New York have its delusion.

I've said it before, but I'd rather spend an entire month living in a vegan commune, wearing a "Meat is good, actually, convince me otherwise" t-shirt, than spend a single second hearing yet another New Yorker tell me why they imagine NYC is any more special than any other city on Earth.

Okay, Mr. Pibb.

Mr. Pibb is a Coca-Cola product.

Got me there, Dr. Thunder.

Ranger Rick wrote:
SallyNasty wrote:

Can you all be right?

Having grown up in Bloomington, IL (aka The Land of Corn & State Farm) the answer is most definitely yes. All of it.

Chicago is underrated as a big city, but also Chicago is full of itself; ALSO Chicago is still definitely in the Midwest and is Midwestier than other big cities, but it is also not of the Midwest.

Clear things up?

But is it a Christmas movie?

We've started watching "Noelle" as a holiday tradition. It's a secret pleasure. Anna Kendrick and Bill Hader do well together, but of course Kendrick just pixies all over every scene she's in. She's relentlessly cheerful. She should do a Christmas movie with Will Farrell's elf. Maybe they could do couples figure skating together or something.

r013nt0 wrote:

Mr. Pibb is a Coca-Cola product.

But is it a Christmas movie?

Robear wrote:

We've started watching "Noelle" as a holiday tradition. It's a secret pleasure. Anna Kendrick and Bill Hader do well together, but of course Kendrick just pixies all over every scene she's in. She's relentlessly cheerful. She should do a Christmas movie with Will Farrell's elf. Maybe they could do couples figure skating together or something.

It is super cute - love that movie, too.

SallyNasty wrote:
Robear wrote:

We've started watching "Noelle" as a holiday tradition. It's a secret pleasure. Anna Kendrick and Bill Hader do well together, but of course Kendrick just pixies all over every scene she's in. She's relentlessly cheerful. She should do a Christmas movie with Will Farrell's elf. Maybe they could do couples figure skating together or something.

It is super cute - love that movie, too.

It's a good movie. My daughter INSISTED we watch it again this year. She started asking about it like mid-November. So, I think it was the first Christmas show we watched and I imagine it will pop up at least once more before the season ends.

fenomas wrote:
Various stuff about wine

I dove into the science on this a few years ago, it's nutty. The big two were, the study Rawk mentioned where oenology students didn't realize they'd been given a white with red food coloring, and there was a wine maker who did a bunch of analysis on how consistent judges at wine competitions are (i.e. whether different judges rate the same wine similarly, and whether a given judge rates different wines similarly). His results were basically that the ratings were not much different from random chance.

There was also a really interesting one where (IIRC, can't find the link) they had people smell a certain chemical, some from a bottle labeled "blue cheese" and others from a bottle labeled "vomit", and of course the people reacted the smell differently. But the interesting thing was that brain scans suggested that different parts of their brains were being used to make the decision.

I think the takeaway is, we we tend to imagine that our senses and our judgments are separate (or at least separable), but the truth is that they're part of the same process. When you taste a thing, your expectations about it are as much a factor as the information your taste buds send to your brain, and anyone who imagines otherwise is probably deceiving themselves.

I've lost my sense of taste multiple times (not from covid) and it's not something you realize right away. The brain lies when you're eating familiar food and you think it tastes exactly as you'd expect.

The insufferable pedants in the comments of inoffensive viral tweets.

I saw that glorious video of people sliding down that hill in Montreal after an ice storm again, and several morons in the comments are like "don't they have brakes?" or "why didn't they prepare better? Bad drivers!"

A dude from England was criticizing them like he knew better. Noted, tundra filled nation ENGLAND.

Prederick wrote:

The insufferable pedants in the comments of inoffensive viral tweets.

I saw that glorious video of people sliding down that hill in Montreal after an ice storm again, and several morons in the comments are like "don't they have brakes?" or "why didn't they prepare better? Bad drivers!"

A dude from England was criticizing them like he knew better. Noted, tundra filled nation ENGLAND.

Oh come on. A mm covering of snow in this country is enough to send kids home from school and cause our entire transport next work to grind to a halt. People can get stuck in their cars for days on our major motorway network. People have to go out to them with flasks of tea so they can survive their ordeal......