Recommend me a gaming keyboard

misplacedbravado wrote:

It hadn't even occurred to me that it could be repairable. Hmmm.

Thanks!

If you look at that chart, there are the LED versions available, so I'm sure you can find the ones that the razer keyboard uses. If you decide to try and have any questions about anything, let me know. It took me about an hour or two and gave me a good opportunity to wash my keys in soapy water.

The mechanical keyboards are pretty damn simple (well, maybe the razer one has some extra stuff that might make it a bit more difficult). The actual keys only have 2 (maybe 3) contacts that attach to the circuit board. They are very large and easy to solder.

You don't really need a special tool to pop the keypads off. Just bend a couple paperclips into hooks and yank 'em off.

What is the end verdict on the Corsair K60?

With coupon + rebate it's $65 at Newegg.

EDIT: Nevermind, I like my backlit keys.

MannishBoy wrote:

What is the end verdict on the Corsair K60?

With coupon + rebate it's $65 at Newegg.

EDIT: Nevermind, I like my backlit keys.

For what it's worth, Jolly Eskimo had one and liked it initially. He didn't like the rubber WASD keys, though, and gave them to me. I love them. They're angled a bit, so my hand can easily find where it needs to be and be comfortable once it's there.

I've got the K90, which is backlit and have been pretty thrilled with it. You can generally find it for at or under $100 if you look around enough.

I've been in Apple land the past few years, using MacBooks for computing, and some gaming (TF2 mostly). I had the old "ice cube tray" USB keyboard (http://kudb.net/market/content/pics/kb.jpg) but when some of the keys got stuck and cleaning did nothing to help, I had to switch to a crappy $9 Logitech keyboard.

I've heard lots about mechanical keyboards and found this Cooler Master keyboard (http://amzn.com/B0068INSUM) that is actually a similar size to the Apple ice cube tray. Has anyone tried it out? And with regards to switching to mechanical keyboards what's that like?

AnimeJ wrote:

I've got the K90, which is backlit and have been pretty thrilled with it. You can generally find it for at or under $100 if you look around enough.

I think Newegg has it on a similar sale. Like $85 AR.

EDIT: I remembered correctly. I just can't get past the duct taped on look of the G keys in this picture:

IMAGE(http://www.corsair.com/media/catalog/product/cache/26/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/k/9/k90_d_left_us_lit.png)

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

For what it's worth, Jolly Eskimo had one and liked it initially. He didn't like the rubber WASD keys, though, and gave them to me. I love them. They're angled a bit, so my hand can easily find where it needs to be and be comfortable once it's there.

I don't use WASD for movement, so that's all wasted on me. I settled on WERD for movement before WASD was so ingrained, and I'm way past the point of switching what's been built up by more than a decade of habit.

Two things that are much rarer than they should be on mechanical keyboards: backlights and media keys.

I was tempted on the Razer Blackwidow for awhile, but it has that weird placement on the function keys that looks odd. If I want to switch seats in a vehicle in BF, I don't want to have to reach to the middle of the keyboard, dammit

T-Prime wrote:

I've been in Apple land the past few years, using MacBooks for computing, and some gaming (TF2 mostly). I had the old "ice cube tray" USB keyboard (http://kudb.net/market/content/pics/kb.jpg) but when some of the keys got stuck and cleaning did nothing to help, I had to switch to a crappy $9 Logitech keyboard.

I've heard lots about mechanical keyboards and found this Cooler Master keyboard (http://amzn.com/B0068INSUM) that is actually a similar size to the Apple ice cube tray. Has anyone tried it out? And with regards to switching to mechanical keyboards what's that like?

I don't know if anyone on here has actually bought that particular one. Cherry MX Blue switches are well liked. I'm a big fan of the Cherry MX Blacks personally. They don't click like the Blues. It makes the keyboard feel a bit more analogue-like to me if that makes any sense. Anyways, that should be a great mechanical keyboard. I don't know if there are driver issues with OSX. I wouldn't imagine there would be since most mechanical keyboards are pretty simple. That one looks to be native PS/2 and has a USB adapter. If you're wanting something much more clean looking, you can buy a custom one at http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/. You could definitely make a custom one fit the Apple aesthetic.

Edit: To answer your question about how the switch to mechanical is, it's kind of something you have to try for yourself. Each key has tends to have lots of travel, so your typing time might not actually improve, however, typing feels much more satisfying. It feels more like typing on a typewriter if you have any experience with those. I like them for gaming, too, because that more mechanical feel is very satisfying. You actually feel like you are pressing a button.

Another advantage is that they are very repairable if you have a soldering iron. You can order new Cherry MX switches for under $2 apiece.

If you are curious about what switch you would like, the best article showing the differences is here.

MannishBoy wrote:

I don't use WASD for movement, so that's all wasted on me. I settled on WERD for movement before WASD was so ingrained, and I'm way past the point of switching what's been built up by more than a decade of habit.

T-Prime wrote:

I've been in Apple land the past few years, using MacBooks for computing, and some gaming (TF2 mostly). I had the old "ice cube tray" USB keyboard (http://kudb.net/market/content/pics/kb.jpg) but when some of the keys got stuck and cleaning did nothing to help, I had to switch to a crappy $9 Logitech keyboard.

I've heard lots about mechanical keyboards and found this Cooler Master keyboard (http://amzn.com/B0068INSUM) that is actually a similar size to the Apple ice cube tray. Has anyone tried it out? And with regards to switching to mechanical keyboards what's that like?

That's actually a pretty great board, and an almost unbelievable price. Typically a board like that is around $100. The only con for me on that particular one is that I find the MX Blue switches to be too noisy. I'll take the MX Brown switches any day as they feel very similar for the most part but don't have the loud pronounced click sound.

For me, Brown>Red>Blue>Black. I suspect I would like the clear switches over the reds, and maybe just as much or more than Browns, but boards with clear switches are like unicorns. I don't believe they really exist.

But then, I'm a guy that kind of hates MX Black switches. Like... I might as well be typing on a rubber dome board. Hate. And a couple posts up you have tuffalo who prefers them.

So I guess my point is it's super, super subjective and personal as far as which switch type you prefer.

If you want to fiddle with blue switches a bit Best Buy usually has the Razer Black Widow that Elysium talked about on this week's conference call in stock, and like he says the board has a little opening that lets you try some of the keys.

If you try the blues and like the feel but want less noise, find a board with the MX Brown switches.

Mannish, for me, the Gkeys on the end look a lost worse in the photos than they do in person; the reason they're sitting lower is that they're recessed unlike every other key on the keyboard.

AnimeJ wrote:

Mannish, for me, the Gkeys on the end look a lost worse in the photos than they do in person; the reason they're sitting lower is that they're recessed unlike every other key on the keyboard.

It's the fact that they seem to have shared the aluminum chassis with the K60, then tacked on some plastic enclosure for those keys. Just looks half done or something in pics. It's not that they're lower, it's that the aluminum just stops.

Finally got rid of my piece of junk Razer Lycosa. That thing start having stuck keys (not physically stuck) and non-working media keys less than a year after I got it. I really want all my PC equipment with blue LED (or lights) at least so Mrs.Omega got me a Logitech G110 for my birthday a few months back. There isn't much to say other than the blue back light is decent (less bright than the Lycosa), but the fact that it works is an improvement. I really like the Razer mice and I have a Deathadder mouse now that I am a big fan of, but that Lycosa really soured my opinion of Razer. I know they're stuff is overpriced, but it is even worse when you go from a $25 no-name keyboard lasting you 5 years (and still good when replaced) to a $100 keyboard that didn't last a year.

PoderOmega wrote:

Finally got rid of my piece of junk Razer Lycosa. That thing start having stuck keys (not physically stuck) and non-working media keys less than a year after I got it. I really want all my PC equipment with blue LED (or lights) at least so Mrs.Omega got me a Logitech G110 for my birthday a few months back. There isn't much to say other than the blue back light is decent (less bright than the Lycosa), but the fact that it works is an improvement. I really like the Razer mice and I have a Deathadder mouse now that I am a big fan of, but that Lycosa really soured my opinion of Razer. I know they're stuff is overpriced, but it is even worse when you go from a $25 no-name keyboard lasting you 5 years (and still good when replaced) to a $100 keyboard that didn't last a year.

I've had my Razer Lycosa Mirror keyboard for >2 years and it still works perfectly. I love it! It matches my Deathadder and my Antec case.

Are there any decent Windows Bluetooth keyboards out there? Maybe with some light gaming qualities (backlight & media buttons, maybe but not necessary some macro keys)?

All I seem to find are iPad or PS3 compatible keyboards, but I use the Windows key too often for shortcuts to go without. It would be nice to go without the usual dongles as well.

I have a Logitech K-750 that I loved for a long time, but then here recently it's stopped charging and Logitech told me to take a hike.

Bummed me out. I was using it for my HTPC and my PS3 both.

I haven't found a good alternative yet.

My dad bought this Microsoft one to use with a PS3. I used it a couple times and it seems okay. I always thought that it looked nice and slick. Feels pretty decent for a thin rubber dome keyboard. He has the matching Microsoft mouse too.

Thin_J wrote:

I have a Logitech K-750 that I loved for a long time, but then here recently it's stopped charging and Logitech told me to take a hike.

Bummed me out. I was using it for my HTPC and my PS3 both.

It's not Bluetooth, but it does look pretty slick. I like my keyboards as flat as possible.

How long before it crapped out? How much sunlight does it need to charge? I have a window right behind me at home, south side. But I need to close the (semi-permeable) drapes to block reflections.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

My dad bought this Microsoft one to use with a PS3. I used it a couple times and it seems okay. I always thought that it looked nice and slick. Feels pretty decent for a thin rubber dome keyboard. He has the matching Microsoft mouse too.

This keyboard looks great, but I prefer a normal sized keyboard with num pad etc. It's apparently not easy to find a normal keyboard with Bluetooth.

dejanzie wrote:

How long before it crapped out? How much sunlight does it need to charge? I have a window right behind me at home, south side. But I need to close the (semi-permeable) drapes to block reflections.

It lasted about a year and a half. When it was working it barely took any light at all to charge. I expeimented with using it on my desktop and it maintained a charge in a pitch black room with nothing but the light from a couple of monitors shining on it.

And the keys are surprisingly usable for a flat board like that.

The board actually does still work, but it has a weird behavior now where it will only charge while the board is active. As long as you're using it and the board is powered on it will charge up the battery but if you walk away and leave it even in open sunlight it will stop charging. It took me a while to figure that out but I verified it. Use the board constantly in a well lit room for a while and got it up to a 5% charge. Left it in direct sunlight from a window and walked away. Checked it again an hour later, still a 5% charge.

That makes it essentially useless for my purposes

Thanks. I read a couple of reviews on Amazon UK, turns out you're not alone with your charging issues. Other users report excellent charging after years of use. In the European Union all home electronics come with a minimum warranty period of 2 years, but it's still a hassle of course.

I'm on the fence right now, leaning towards getting it

edit: bought it, I'm weak

Ugh, I cannot recommend Logitech peripherals at all anymore. I gave them one last chance with the latest gaming mouse I had... When it fell victim to the double-click issue, even though still under warranty, I didn't want a replacement. Literally every Logitech peripheral, except for the joystick which I so rarely use it hasn't had a chance to break yet, that I used to have has been replaced by a competitor's product. I now have a Razer mouse (again, I replaced a good Razer mouse with the Logitech because it came highly recommended), and everything else is Microsoft, which hold up surprisingly well. I can't remember the last peripheral I bought that ended up lasting multiple years. My Microsoft Natural Keyboard 4000 is going on six years old now. Logitech used to be great. They just don't have the same QA they used to.

Aren't peripherals like mice a bit more complicated then in the nineties? At least then you could take out the mouse ball and wipe it clean.

Spoiler:

You're only evil if you recommend Logitech speakers.

I can't complain about any Logitech mice. Right now in the house I have a years and years old MX518, a G5, a G400, and a G500. All are still working perfectly. In the case of the MX518 and the G500, that's after easily a few thousand hours of use each.

Granted... I'm using a Deathadder right now.

I've used Logitech gaming mice for years. I generally retire them for the new shiny version that happens to hit a sale well before they die. Don't think I've ever had more than one do anything worse than wear its feet off. I did have a portable laptop mouse start losing connection, but that's my only true failure.

In fact, I have one of the Logitech ifeel mice (force feedback mouse gimmick) that still works.

IMAGE(http://www.logitech.com/assets/3425/3425.gif)

MX518 FOR LIFE.

I went from an old RF logitech setup that I used for 3-4 years to a wired G15/G5(the keyboard was trash, the mouse lasted 6 years) that I passed down to my wife and upgraded to a G500 after making the mistake of buying a RAT 7 which lasted about 3 weeks before one of the mouse buttons quit on me. The G500 has been going strong for 7 months.

boogle wrote:

MX518 FOR LIFE.

I moved on to the G500 and have liked the extra thumb button.

(MX518 went to use for my work laptop)

Is all the info in this thread still relevant? I got to use a co-workers Leopold FC200RT/KB last night and I think I like it. I'd love a more curved ergonomic mechanical keyboard but the only one I can find is this one.

IMAGE(http://kizzx2.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/kb_adv-blk720x471.jpg)

So I am looking for ergonomic mechanical, lit keyboard that isn't insane like that one above.

I'm very very pleased with my das keyboard pro s. Can't believe I waited this long to get one!

So I've come to the conclusion after doing research all night that a keyboard with the features below does not exist.

*Cherry MX Brown (or equivalent Alps/Topre switch)
*Flat (not shiny) plastic.
*Ergonomic but not like this or this.
*Media keys a plus for volume control.
*Backlit so I can see the keys in the dark.
*Numpad a plus but not necessary.

Just doesn't seem like anyone makes them. On the plus side, I did see that Reddit is doing a group by of the new Ducky Shine II's.

Edwin wrote:

So I've come to the conclusion after doing research all night that a keyboard with the features below does not exist.

*Cherry MX Brown (or equivalent Alps/Topre switch)
*Flat (not shiny) plastic.
*Ergonomic but not like this or this.
*Media keys a plus for volume control.
*Backlit so I can see the keys in the dark.
*Numpad a plus but not necessary.

Just doesn't seem like anyone makes them. On the plus side, I did see that Reddit is doing a group by of the new Ducky Shine II's.

It doesn't. I've been looking for years.