Cricket: More Than a Game

The shortest test match ever, in terms of overs bowled. That's not going to do much for Test cricket.

I think the ground staff have some questions to answer.

The scoreline says 3-0 for the Pakistan tour, but they were a lot closer than that. Really loved Aamer Jamal brought.
If they'd had a more reliable slips cordon then the MCG test was within their reach.

Remembering back to the bad old days in the 80s when Aus were sh*t, they did the work to cover the talent gap by being 99% reliable on the things they could control. Bobby Simpson worked them over and was part of what turned into that unbelievable period in the 90s. Healy/Taylor/Waugh were as close to an automatic cordon as I will ever likely see in my life.

Astonishing victory for England against India today - I would never have told you they would have achieved that after the first days play. A terrific 196 from Ollie Pope and Tom Hartley being no slouch with the ball in the second innings. For a relatively young and inexperienced team, it was some showing.

Also a shout out to the West Indies winning their first test match in Australia since 1997 (I think)

I am crushing on Shamar Joseph who is rightfully the talk of the town here.
A kid from nowhere picks his team up and carries it to victory. One of the best fast bowling spells I have ever seen.

We are none too impressed with the selection hubris driven by Warner's farewell lap. Smith opening and Green at 4 is stupid.

I almost feel sorry for the Most Boring Commentator Alive (aka Michael Atherton). He's got copy to file for tomorrow's Times, so no rest for him tonight as he has to bin the piece that he wrote after Day 4 with him wallowing in England's catastrophic defeat like a pig in sh*t and has to file a piece about one of the legendary victories on foreign soil.

If anyone wants to go for the over/under on his 'Reasons Why England Were Lucky To Win', I'll go with 2 and the Vegas line would favour the 'over'.

Unfortunately, we've not seen any of the highlights over here of Aus vs WI, so I'll defer to Bruce on that one.

In the current era, winning any test match away is a feat, even when you catch a team undermanned.

Hyderabad and Sydney are bright spots that we should all enjoy. I've also loved seeing these new players banging down the door for selection and then stepping up on the big stage.

And now Wellington as an away victory.

Is Michael Vaughan OK? I'm interested how a team that is 3-1 down have been the better side in a series.

BCCI scheduling just does not give a f*ck. Snow may interrupt the 5th test. What on earth were they thinking in choosing Dharmasala at this time of year. After the World Cup debacle that saw them have to revise a few weeks out. Probably not corruption that created the problems. Seems unlikely from that organisation...

Bruce wrote:

And now Wellington as an away victory.

Is Michael Vaughan OK? I'm interested how a team that is 3-1 down have been the better side in a series.

BCCI scheduling just does not give a f*ck. Snow may interrupt the 5th test. What on earth were they thinking in choosing Dharmasala at this time of year. After the World Cup debacle that saw them have to revise a few weeks out. Probably not corruption that created the problems. Seems unlikely from that organisation...

Iirc, the guy that was tasked with organising the World Cup was some BCCI official's son, about 20 years old with absolutely no experience at all. It's mostly nepotism causing rank incompetence.

I'm honestly quite surprised the rest of the world hasn't separated away from the BCCI and IPL at this point. All this talk about "money" in the game is pointless when the BCCI are hoovering it all up regardless.

It looks like Brendon McCullum has finally had to have "the talk" with Jimmy Anderson.

You'd hope the Sri Lanka tour will be an opportunity for him to say goodbye

That was incredible. Pakistan completely fell apart in the Super Over. All the free runs they gave the US essentially won the match.

If Pakistan lose to India on the weekend that's a really bad position for them with only two teams going forward from each group.

Hot American takes about cricket incoming.

Todd Boehly about to buy a cricket team.

Chairman_Mao wrote:

USA defeats Pakistan in T20 World Cup

Holy moly

Someone please explain this in terms an American can understand. What level of upset are we talking about here?

Imagine if Pakistan beat the USA at basketball.

Pakistan were T20 World Cup finalists in 2022. The best player on the USA cricket team works for Oracle Mon-Fri.

I can't wait for the Jomboy breakdown on this one.

The Aussie cricket podcast I watch opens with just laughing for 20 seconds.

"We're all just drinking at the trough of this great catastrophe."

WARNING, LANGUAGE NSFW: AUSTRALIANS

One my of colleagues in the US - his family originate from the West Indies - and I have been talking none stop about the t20 World Cup the last couple of days.

He’s going to be thrilled. I couldn’t be more pleased for him! One the greatest sporting upsets every recorded.

Not quite sure how India got out of that one with a win - I think the commentators said that was the lowest total that Pakistan have ever failed to defend.

Having watched England pulverise Oman last night - there’s really no other word for it - I was left with that eternal conundrum of how exactly such a game helps either Oman, England, or the World Cup in general.

You also get left with the idea that maybe Net Run Rate isn’t the best measure for progress if things get rained off. It does seem mildly ridiculous that any team should be in the position England are in just because a game got rained off.

Getting pulverized is kind of a reward for Oman. They've earned the right to share the stage with a team they likely idolize and while they are miles off it now they get to go home and tell everyone about the day the faced up to the big boys.

Nett positive on growing the game I think.

Totally posed this joke in the wrong thread:

T20 World Cup, Group A (Lauderhill, Florida)

USA: Did not bat

Ireland: Did not bat

Climate Change 50-2 (3.1 overs): Flash Flooding (8*), Rain 12 (3)

Climate Change won by eight wickets

England are roughly 2 hours from being eliminated from the tournament because it's raining again.

Mother Nature, just like Father Time, is undefeated.

Rat Boy wrote:

Mother Nature, just like Father Time, is undefeated.

Apparently they are getting 11 overs aside in. Just starting now!

I don't believe Australia have any intention to throw this game against Scotland, but if they were going to then five or six dropped catches would be a great way to do it.

Edit: We’re set now for England to knock Australia out later in the tournament, in classic Sports Narrative fashion.

Is cricket the only sport in which games aren't postponed for bad weather? How do they decide which team goes through?

Chairman_Mao wrote:

Is cricket the only sport in which games aren't postponed for bad weather? How do they decide which team goes through?

Badly. And Cricket has always been terrible at having reserve days. For test matches it’s understandable, or for ODI tournaments when it takes an entire day for the game to be played.

For a t20 game that takes 2.5hours if you don’t faff about? It’s beginning to look increasingly ridiculous.

What if each side only played 3 overs at a time and then switched sides...

Mixolyde wrote:

What if each side only played 3 overs at a time and then switched sides...

That feels a little like a Solution looking for a problem!

Put it this way: the game between England and Namibia was the only game being played in Antigua last week. It was due to start at 12.30pm local time, with a ‘cut off’ time of 4.46pm. It eventually started just before 4pm, curtailed to an 11 overs a side game.

The reason for this is quite simply TV Schedules / agreements. For all the protestations about ‘mucking fans around’ if you’re going to a t20 game it’s unlikely you’ll have lot else you’ve decided to do that day - especially for an International tournament they’ve travelled to.

From a sporting position, they can wait all day if they need to. The English domestic t20 competition regularly has games that don’t start until 7pm. Sometimes they don’t finish until gone 11pm in the evening.

They could quite easily have played a full 20 over a side game later into the evening.

The ICC is generally terrible at organising these events. Holding a significant part of it in the West Indies or Caribbean area during hurricane season is just the start. I’ve read a lot of conspiracy theories online lately that this has all been deliberate to devalue international cricket in favour of the IPL. I’m not sure I’d go that far, but the ICC do very little to make it look otherwise.

Holding it during the European Cup football competition is another decision worthy of a lot of scrutiny.

Mixolyde wrote:

What if each side only played 3 overs at a time and then switched sides...

Could the forums handle the resulting requires thread merge?