Cricket: More Than a Game

Another Day 5 where everything is possible.

Will Australia be cruelly denied a win by the weather? /jk

My group chats are so annoyed that Dead Rubber Dave has showed up to pretty much guarantee he gets his undeserved victory lap at home. He's lucky the SCG doesn't hold that many people, as he might find out how indifferent a lot of Aussie cricket fans are about him and his 'legacy'. There's enough that like him to attend his ceremonial match in Sydney - but they wouldn't fill an MCG.

It could only end that way, couldn't it ?

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The end to the other great series of modern times, only Stuart Broad could hit a 6 with his last ball and get a wicket with his last bowl in cricket to win a match.

It feels like the right result in the end - I was worried BazBall was going to fall apart there at 2-0 down but England fought back and it’s a real shame the rain in Manchester denied us a proper ‘winner takes all’ final game.

Thoroughly enjoyable.

When the Aussies were 200 odd for 3, I just thought that it didn't really matter if they won...if you chase down 300 plus to win, then fair play.

I'd far rather have a series like this, where every day (apart from Manchester day 5) had something going on, than a thousand tests of AthersBall.

One of my work colleagues did offer the opinion that the wrong bowler was retiring....sad as it may be to say, I would agree with that. He might have been unlucky, but I don't think Jimmy A has much left in the tank.

I think Jimmy is likely to do a bit of thinking between now and the India tour. That said he’s always been quite good on the sub continent, so maybe it’s his chance to say goodbye?

Sorbicol wrote:

I think Jimmy is likely to do a bit of thinking between now and the India tour. That said he’s always been quite good on the sub continent, so maybe it’s his chance to say goodbye?

Fair shout, but I don't think England can be taking passengers down there for sentimental reasons. They already have two players (Wood and Woakes) to manage the fitness of, and another spinner or two to find.

davet010 wrote:

Fair shout, but I don't think England can be taking passengers down there for sentimental reasons. They already have two players (Wood and Woakes) to manage the fitness of, and another spinner or two to find.

You forgot Ollie Robinson there too. I think we're not too bad for spinners - they just need time and experience. You'd think they'd get that in this set up. But yes, I am also quite concerned that Jimmy hasn't got it any more and there's no test cricket now until India next year for the England men's team. Time to see what he can do for Lancashire I guess.

I'm not totally convinced by Robinson - I think he got distracted by his mouthing off before the series started, which seemed to be at odds with his somewhat peripheral status on the team.

I'm also not sure which spin options you've seen, because the desperation of knocking on Moeen's door would suggest that you have a little more faith in them that the England management. I've not watched a lot of county cricket this season, to be fair.

davet010 wrote:

One of my work colleagues did offer the opinion that the wrong bowler was retiring....sad as it may be to say, I would agree with that. He might have been unlucky, but I don't think Jimmy A has much left in the tank.

Broad was still a big threat right to the end, but Jimmy looked pretty toothless across all 4 tests.

I will admit to rolling my eyes pretty hard when the replacement ball that was allegedly 38 overs old had visible writing on it still. But you can't lose 4/11 in a big chase and expect success.

As a series, it was an ebb and flow of amazing moments and amazing f*ck ups. Woakes impressed me a lot this series. Good areas every spell.

I’ve only just realised that The Hundred starts today. Now there’s a tournament that is already feeling a little stale and dated.

Sorbicol wrote:

I’ve only just realised that The Hundred starts today. Now there’s a tournament that is already feeling a little stale and dated.

Isn't that the reason for the compressed Ashes schedule?

Bruce wrote:

Isn't that the reason for the compressed Ashes schedule?

It's the reason for compressed everything in the English domestic league. Opening games were at Trent Bridge today, it was barely half full for the men's game, probably less than a third for the women's.

The women's game was a bit one sided. The men's game was really entertaining to be fair.

The World Cup makes for an awful schedule before the start of our home Summer.

8xT20s and 19-21 x ODIs (If they make finals) with 5 of those T20s vs India in a stupid sugar rush after the WC and arriving home a week before the first test. We will be prepared like tourists for the home summer. A least there will be a lot of Sheffield Shield cricket happening to help find the next version of test cricketers prior to this point.

I can't see the Hundred lasting as it is, although I understand there are some contractual/sponsorship reasons why it has to run for at least another year.

The timing of it is awkward for the sort of overseas players who would bring the crowds in (and it doesn't pay enough as it is to make the mercenary ones choose it over the US one or the SL one), and the top tier home players need a rest after the Test series. All you end up with are county-standard players, the ones not quite good enough for the Test team, or the international players who roam the world and that you see in every short form competition.

I would say it's done a lot for the exposure of the women's game, but little for the men's game.

davet010 wrote:

I would say it's done a lot for the exposure of the women's game, but little for the men's game.

So good then? How much coverage did the Women's Ashes get locally? All the matches were on FTA TV here as were all the previous summer. Some even on the main channel. It's given the game a good boost.

Quite a lot of coverage - Sky showed all of the games here included every day of the Test. I can't remember whether any were shown on non-Satellite TV, but I suspect there might have been some highlights. The games were mostly close, and the points system kept interest up.

In all honesty, I think there would be a lot of merit to getting rid of the men's version of the Hundred, but I'm not sure that the women's competition could generate the crowds - as Sorbicol said, at the moment, the women's games are held in the afternoon with the equivalent men's game as a 6 or 6.30 start to catch the after-work beer drinkers. I'm not sure many of them would pitch up for the ladies game only.

So the Cricket World Cup.

Ignoring the absolute shambles that the (B)ICC has made organising this World Cup, there have been some great results so far - Afghanistan’s victory over England (who have been quite poor and look completely off the boil to be honest) and the Netherlands over South Africa being the two main ones.

New Zealand do look very good.

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that the England players just don't want to be in this world cup.

They've been abject.

Edit: They should be brought home for their own good at this point. 300 run loss coming up.......

Oh ye of little faith, it was only 229 runs, thanks to the unlikely duo of Wood and Atkinson. Too many of them look past their best, and this might be a similar outturn to the 2015 WC, where the makeup of the side was completely altered afterwards.

I enjoyed the match immensly

KramNesnah wrote:

I enjoyed the match immensly :)

We’re going to get you in the Rugby.

Not.

Sorbicol wrote:
KramNesnah wrote:

I enjoyed the match immensly :)

We’re going to get you in the Rugby.

Not.

That rugby match almost gave me a heart attack… England deserved to win it

We near the end of the marathon that is the World Cup.

Well done England to face down what could have been a tricky game to finish as Champions of Europe.

Pakistan is going to miss out the semi finals by less than 1cm. The umpire's call on the LBW with SA 9 down.

I turned off and went to bed when Australia were 7/91 - the surprise when I woke up was complete. The Big Show is Stick Cricket brought to life.

The less said about this World Cup the better quite honestly.

Well, South Africa lost that semi final in the first 10 overs of both innings. I don’t think they could’ve gotten of to a worse start if they wanted to.

Well played AUS.

Oh well, moving on…

Wow. Head takes that screamer, then the skipper gets Kohli and it's all one way traffic from there.

That may be my favorite of the 6 World Cup wins. From last a month ago to hoisting the trophy today.

Test cricket is increasingly a luxury for the rich.

As Pakistan push close for their first away victory vs Australia in decades and only a couple of skill errors from getting it, South Africa dominate India at home...

And then...

SA announce their team to tour NZ and it doesn't include their best players who will be busy with a local T20 tournament. Our game is crumbling.

Bruce wrote:

Test cricket is increasingly a luxury for the rich.

As Pakistan push close for their first away victory vs Australia in decades and only a couple of skill errors from getting it, South Africa dominate India at home...

And then...

SA announce their team to tour NZ and it doesn't include their best players who will be busy with a local T20 tournament. Our game is crumbling.

Yeah, I find the ever increasing focus on T20 cricket very frustrating. Test cricket is the only format I still really enjoy.

50 overs at least still has some ebb and flow in the game, but T20 is just a run fest from start to finish. I haven’t watched a complete T20 game in the last 5 years.

5-test series just do not exist anymore outside of the Ashes and tests involving the big 3 (India, Aus and Eng).

At least we (SA) have again managed to stop India from winning a series here!

KramNesnah wrote:

At least we (SA) have again managed to stop India from winning a series here!

You should be basking the glory of having some of the best test cricket players on the planet. Rabada is one of the best that has ever played. He's about to go past 300 wickets with an avg of 22 and SR of 39. 39!!!

What on earth is going on at Newlands.

SA all out for 55, then India go from 153-4 to 153 all out in less than 2 overs. Now SA are 44-2.

I did hear something while I was making a brew about the groundskeeper's equipment not working properly and the pitch being sprayed with chemicals without water - that strip does look a bit odd.