Cricket: More Than a Game

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Sri Lanka and India in the final. Personally I'm hoping for Sri Lanka to take it, they have looked generally better.

Yeah, and it generally sounds better for us if we're beaten by the team that goes on to win it all!

Yeah, with that in mind I probably should have hoped for New Zealand. But I really didn't like their little incident with Du Plessis after AB's run out.

Watched the India Pakistan game in a hole in the wall bar in Mumbai. Was great. Then had to jump on a 2:15am plane to come home ugh. Fireworks all the way to the airport and people in the streets having a great party.

Sri Lanka has looked great especially in the batting show they put up vs England. I think India still takes it though. Just the depth of the team. Seems India is able to play an 'average' game and still eek out the result.

That must have been an awesome experience. Watching cricket in India is definitely on my bucket list.

It's true what you say, India has been able to stutter through and get the right results without the whole team really firing. Sri Lanka's bowling attack is gelling really nicely and their top 4 are batting well, but it remains to be seen how they cope in a final. I'm glad that more Sri Lankan batsmen got a go in the semi, there should be less rust in the middle order.

Definitely sounds like a winner. On my list as well, though I'd say I'd probably like to do a tour of SA, Oz and Kiwiland first.

Did you enjoy your baptism by fire to the heart of cricket, jowner? (England being the soul, of course.)

Haakon7 wrote:

Definitely sounds like a winner. On my list as well, though I'd say I'd probably like to do a tour of SA, Oz and Kiwiland first.

Did you enjoy your baptism by fire to the heart of cricket, jowner? (England being the soul, of course.)

More like the ghost of Cricket Past. The death of English cricket was announced some time age.

spankyboy wrote:

More like the ghost of Cricket Past. The death of English cricket was announced some time age. ;)

Man. I must be getting old. I keep forgetting - which team holds the Ashes at the moment?

You mean the eternal battle over English Cricket's cold, dead remains?

No mate, that's Punter's captaincy

You're all right.

The England - Australia rivalry is like the Holy Roman Empire versus the Ottomans. The Ashes, Byzantium. :p

They should be equally cold and dead, a rubbish captain, who's inadequacies were covered for too long by a team of fading greats. I've followed cricket since the late '70s and I've never heard and seen so many commentators ask about any captain, "WTF is he doing?" I don't really see anything changing in the short-term though, the downward spiral will continue, hopefully collecting more rolling heads along the way.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

You're all right.

The England - Australia rivalry is like the Holy Roman Empire versus the Ottomans. The Ashes, Byzantium. :p

And in present day (cricket) politics equally irrelevant.

spankyboy wrote:
MrDeVil909 wrote:

You're all right.

The England - Australia rivalry is like the Holy Roman Empire versus the Ottomans. The Ashes, Byzantium. :p

And in present day (cricket) politics equally irrelevant. :)

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Sri Lanka has the weirdest national anthem, it's like the theme song for an '80s kids show.

I can't get over India's fielding, Yuvraj is a phenomenon and Sehwag's catch was excellent.

And India takes it. Sri Lanka managed to put on a decent score, just couldn't get enough wickets.

I thought the Shrees were 20-30 short, mostly thanks to a very handy opening spell by Khan. I think he bowled 3 maidens in his first 5 overs backed by the best fielding I've ever seen from India.

Some genuine class batting in the final. Jayawardane, Dhoni and Ghambir put on a masterclass in ODI batting.

So now we are finally rid of the chucker, will we see a return to actual scrutiny or are the floodgates open? There are a few more finger spinners with highly questionable actions. In fact, anyone that claims to have a doosra has branded themselves a cheat in my book, Botha and Ajmal being the 2 most prominent examples at the moment.

Well, seeing what Botha has been through there seems to be plenty of scrutiny already. He's banned from the doosra because study found that was the only time his action was illegal. Has Murali never been tested?

Yeah, Khan's opening spell was excellent. He's tended to be a little expensive in his first spell, after that and 3 wickets though I thought that Sri Lanka was on target for 220, so I thought they did well to get to 275. Turned out to be a nice batting pitch though.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Well, seeing what Botha has been through there seems to be plenty of scrutiny already. He's banned from the doosra because study found that was the only time his action was illegal. Has Murali never been tested?

Yes, and every time the rules were changed to benefit him*, the cheating swine.

Interesting, first time I've actually researched this. Seems pretty thoroughly debunked, tbh.

The optical illusion line might just hold up, after all he did bowl in the brace and was able to kinda get them to turn. Not the same fizz and pop but at least he hit the pitch. Apparently when Harbijan went to the UWA clearing house he was able to get his doosra under 15 degrees, but was sending down waist high full tosses.

Every one of the reports of when he went to the UWA to be 'cleared' has the word remediation in it. Ie. he was illegal, but with some work was able to produce a sample set that was legal. Also they use an average. So when he sends down 20 deliveries with an average flex of 14.5 degrees, then half those deliveries were almost certainly illegal. And why is it now out to just under 15 degrees (and the way it comes down to 14 point something every time is suss too) - I thought it would be 0 because that was the flex when he bowled in a brace.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Interesting, first time I've actually researched this. Seems pretty thoroughly debunked, tbh.

Oh aye, that looks like a definitive information source. Want me to see if tonight's Rossendale Advertiser has anything to add ? I couldn't even stand the guy when he was playing for Lancs, and I'm a fully-paid up season ticket holder.

Cheat, always was, records are completely bogus, end of.

It was one of several sources Google threw up. The only stories to the contrary were Adam Gilchrist talking when promoting his autobiography and a few Aussie and British tabloids that kept referencing each other without any backup from any sports scientists or experts.

Ultimately I'll go with the experts, as long as the rules are applied consistently. If the rules were changed to bring the rules in line with the reality of the human body, I'm fine with that.

IPL starts today. Anyone care? Helloo!!?? Helloo??!! Is this thing on?

Nope, me neither.

Cricket Force tomorrow, so doing another round of sprucing up the club for the summer. Laying new flooring in the club house, painting the sightscreens and sorting out the bar. Then first selection meeting is Monday, and first friendly is Saturday. So close I can almost smell it!

So, in short - No. Don't care about the IPL.

Crooked Pyjama Slogging carnival, of great interest to the Indian Police and taxation authorities.

Oh, and bookies, which is partly related to the previous two.

Good to see that at least the group stages of Pyjama Slogging have been reduced in size over here, from 16 games to 10 if I remember correctly.

Be a bit of a cricket off-year for me this year, spectating wise - Lancs only have 1 county game at OT this year due to its redevelopment, so they are playing at outlier grounds in Liverpool and Blackpool.

Our season is over now, starts again in September, so a lot of our players are hitting the English counties. Well, the ones not in the IPL of course.

Lonwabo Tsotsobe is going to Essex, will be fun hearing commentators try to pronounce his name.

'Lonnie' it is then

Hey, yeah. I'm sure he will come back with that name. He's usually called Lopsy here.

Well that was a turnup for the books - an England win was 100-1 at the start of the day. Quite how a team who batted 400 in their first innings gets 86 all out in the second is a bit of mystery - I know the weather hasn't helped, but there wasn't much application shown there by players who are excellent batsmen.