Obama: "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" going away

Yeah, baby steps and all. Clearly, had it been two guys, there'd be more reaction, because we live in a culture where lesbians are more acceptable than gays. I'm reminded of a guy I worked with years ago who was a fundamentalist Christian who told me all gays were going to hell, but then, later on, as somebody was discussing porn, his eyes lit up and he exclaimed, "OOOOHHHHH, LESBIANS ARE AWESOME". He had no cognitive dissonance; one was AWESOME, one was icky. I think that's common. Guys kissing will happen eventually.

That being said, this is absolutely a huge moment. That picture above? Look at it. You're going to be seeing that picture for the rest of your life. Those two right there became symbols of the gay rights movement and 50 years from now they're going to be interviewed and asked about how it felt.

Once again, I think it's perfectly acceptable to appreciate the moment and what it means while at the same time holding the thought that it's sad that baby steps are necessary. Not sure why holding two thoughts on a complex issue is so controversial.

I can walk and chew gum at the same time.

But you didn't say the other one.

DSGamer wrote:

Once again, I think it's perfectly acceptable to appreciate the moment and what it means while at the same time holding the thought that it's sad that baby steps are necessary. Not sure why holding two thoughts on a complex issue is so controversial.

I can walk and chew gum at the same time.

So can the rest of us ; D

momgamer wrote:

But you didn't say the other one. ;)

??

I responded in the context of someone else's comment initially. I thought that context meant that it was implicit that this was great, but...

Seriously confused about why it's an issue to make that point.

P&C is getting really pedantic. I should probably just take a break from it for a while. The context if anyone cares.

me from page 3 wrote:
1Dgaf wrote:

Group of men approve of attractive lesbians kissing.

Move along; this isn't the change you're looking for.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught this. To this day I hold that the wave of gay marriage legalization really got under the skin of some Americans when news networks started showing men and old ladies sharing a kiss. That was when the real crazy started.

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shared a quick kiss in the rain with her partner, Petty Officer 3rd Class Citlalic Snell of Los Angeles.

Nothing to contribute to the argument-y stuff, but really: Who the hell names their child "Citlalic"?

I don't know. I guess if you're in the unfortunate situation of having to sell people on the legitimacy of particular sexual/romantic relationships, you put your sexiest/most romantic foot forward. Which in our society is 'pretty ladies + post World War II celebration imagery'. Sure there are male gaze issues, but that stuff is only tangentially related.

Arise!
Obama Administration Wouldn’t Defend Blocking Military Benefits From Same-Sex Couples

The Obama Justice Department has concluded that legislation banning same-sex couples from receiving military and veterans benefits violates the equal protection component of the Fifth Amendment and will no longer defend the statute in court, Attorney General Eric Holder wrote in a letter to Congressional leaders on Friday.