Dominion - boardgame

Hey all,

I know there are a few boardgamers out there in the GWJ community, and I've recently stumbled across the latest darling of BoardGameGeek: Dominion

Not strictly a boardgame, as it has no board and is played entirely using cards. Each player starts with an identical deck of 10 cards (a mix of money and victory points) and can use it to purchase cards from the communal stacks which are then added to their play deck, therefore over time you construct your own unique deck. The aim is to have the most victory points and this is achieved by the use of money to buy action cards which enhance your decks purchasing capabilities.

Being a Magic: the Gathering player the build your deck as the game progresses is incredibly appealing, much like drafting in M:tG. The game plays very quickly, and caters well for 2-4 players. The best thing is that you can play it free online at BrettSpielWelt
I've got through about 10-15 plays in the past two days!

Torq

Thanks for the heads up. Now I just need for it to pop up on Pozy.

I've been frequenting a Board Game meetup every couple of weeks, and I always see people playing this game. I have yet to give it a try, but with the number of people and frequency of which this game gets played, it must be good. I am definitely looking forward to trying to get a game of this going.

This is the new hotness over at BGG. I haven't had a chance to play it myself, although a friend just got a copy so hopefully we'll get a game in after the holidays.

Have you played Race for the Galaxy? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how the two compare. I own Race for the Galaxy but that hasn't gone over quite as well as I had hoped. It has a very steep learning curve due to the symbology and different phases of the game. Most people spent their first few games only paying attention to themselves so it becomes a very solitaire experience; combine that with the first games taking longer than they should and several in my group have been turned off on the game. Also, while my wife loves San Juan I don't dare try and teach her RftG. Her brain would melt. I'm hoping that Dominion will be easier to learn and faster to play.

LiquidMantis wrote:

Thanks for the heads up. Now I just need for it to pop up on Pozy.

They should be getting back to their regular board game schedule after the holidays. I can't wait as there's a lot of good stuff for them to toss up

Tried out Dominion yesterday and Le Havre (Agricola dude's latest game). Both were superb.

I really like Dominion, Torq has it right. The drafting is very satisfying, and enhances the replay value immensely. Dominion is much simpler in its presentation and ruleset, compared to RftG.

I had the opportunity to play Dominion these past couple of days. I'm not an avid board gamer, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. We played twice last night with the "beginner" setup and had a lot of fun. I didn't sleep very well last night... spent the night in a strange dream state obsessing over various card combinations (strange obsessive dream state is a sure sign of a hit for me).

We played three more times today using random card setups. Fun and very different each time.

Dreaded Gazebo wrote:

Have you played Race for the Galaxy? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how the two compare. I own Race for the Galaxy but that hasn't gone over quite as well as I had hoped. It has a very steep learning curve due to the symbology and different phases of the game. Most people spent their first few games only paying attention to themselves so it becomes a very solitaire experience; combine that with the first games taking longer than they should and several in my group have been turned off on the game. Also, while my wife loves San Juan I don't dare try and teach her RftG. Her brain would melt. I'm hoping that Dominion will be easier to learn and faster to play.

Yes I have played and own Race for the Galaxy. Dominion is vastly easier to understand and learn. You basically have two phases in a turn; action and buy. You start each turn with 1 action and 1 buy. In the action phases you can use your 1 action to play an action card. Depending on what it is it can increase your actions available, draw you cards, increase your buys and many more. Then in your buy phase you can purchase anything available with the amount of coins you have in hand and from action cards. But unless you have played actions that increase the number of buys you are allowed, you only get to purchase one thing irrelevant of your total money available.

Dominion also plays quicker than Race, especially when you get used to what the cards do (which will be vastly quicker than Race!). I'm a big fan of Race for the Galaxy too, but have hit hurdles in finding people to play, many are turned off by it's steep learning curve, my girlfriend certainly hated it. She has played Dominion once and got to grips with it easily and I imagine she'll play again.

In the long run I'm not sure if Dominion will prove to be the better game than Race but right now I absolutely love it.

My only problem with Dominion is the psychotic levels of shuffling. I played it with fellow gamers and we were literally playing so fast that shuffling became a major bottleneck. Those poor cards!

I just lost an hour looking up Pozy (I had no idea what it was, looks like a good deal site for board games) then bouncing to other game sites and back to BGG, then repeating.

Thanks all.

Scaphism wrote:

I just lost an hour looking up Pozy (I had no idea what it was, looks like a good deal site for board games)

While I haven't been using Pozy for awhile (I managed to refrain from installing Wootalyzer for a while after reinstalling my OS), I've spent way too much money there. Tanga (also on the BGG sidebar) is a decent site too but their shipping times have gone to pot and they sell a lot of Woot-esque junk too.

scrub wrote:

My only problem with Dominion is the psychotic levels of shuffling. I played it with fellow gamers and we were literally playing so fast that shuffling became a major bottleneck. Those poor cards!

A benefit of coming from a Magic: the Gathering background means that I have plenty of card sleeves. Only problem is, Dominion cards are printed in an unusual size, and although they fit in a tradional sized card sleeve, the cards stick out the top a little and are a bit too thin to fill out the sleeve. This isn't really a problem and will extend the life of your cards.

There is a thread on BGG regarding production of card sleeves that will fit Dominion sized cards. Buy USA here, UK here.

I purchased this game last night, after hearing it mentioned on this podcast, and after watching Mr. Vasel's wonderful video review.

While I haven't played the physical copy, yet, I have been playing the online version - and it is awesome. Such a great game, tons of strategy, and the games don't feel too long.

Can't wait to see what the expansions add.

Hopefully some of my friends will be over tonight to try this.

Yup bought this as well.

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but the online play UI on BrettSpielWelt is confusing as heck. So far I have only successfully logged in as a guest and suddenly I'm spectating Hanz and Franz laying out cards faster than you can say weinershnetzel. So far I can't figure out how to create an account, start a game, or even toggle the interface to English (the button to do so doesn't really do anything). I'd like to know if I can play against bots as well, as my experience watching Hanz has left me with a mild sense of xenophobia.

Thoughts? Tutelage?

First, are you sure you installed the English client? It still uses a lot of German, but the menus at the very top should be in English at least.

Second, BSW uses a set number of rooms for each game. When you first log in (or don't, it doesn't matter really) you should see a table/list of games looking for players. Clicking on one causes you to enter the room and join automatically. Then the host will hopefully start the game.

If you want to start a game, you'll need to find an empty room for the appropriate game. To do that, use the dark brown drop down menu labeled in German (I assume it means "Menu" or something) on the right to select a game. The menu seems to organize games into a tree structure which is also kindly labeled in German, but fortunately Dominion has been deemed popular enough (or new enough? I dunno really) that it's at the very top level. Once you select a game, you'll see a table/list of rooms, empty and otherwise. Click on a room to enter, and type \gameyell to make your room show up in the table/list of games looking for players. The game menu up top will let you start, reset, and set options for the current game.

There are no bots sadly.

Played the crap out of BSW today during and between classes. Lots of Dominion, 1 game of carcassone.
I'm getting decent at dominion. Learning Chapel drops to get the all deck plays are great.

Been playing a lot of this on BSW over the past week or so, what a great game. Glad GWJ introduced it to me. I'm pretty much always up for a game!

I keep meaning to try this out on BSW, but the flash client confused the hell out of me and I haven't gotten around to downloading the standalone client yet. Sounds like I need to quit procrastinating and get on it.

Just curious but is learning the boardgame itself a necessity for playing online? I'm interesting in trying Dominion but unfortunately don't have much point buying the boardgame itself as I don't have anyone local to play with.

MyBrainHz wrote:

I keep meaning to try this out on BSW, but the flash client confused the hell out of me and I haven't gotten around to downloading the standalone client yet. Sounds like I need to quit procrastinating and get on it.

Stand alone client is just as confusing, still better to have than the web based version.

Once you get registered and into the games lobby here is how it works. on the right hand side there is a drop down menu that lets you select an option to see only the game you wish to play. If you are looking to start a game you have to wait for an empty lobby to spawn, you can't create them. The empty new lobbies are brown and show up ever few seconds. When one shows up click on it, than in the chat box type (/host) without the brackets. This lets you get control of the room, you can make the room invisible so that only people who (/hook) you will be able to join the game.

Once people /hook you they will probably be in a really ugly looking room with a table and picture of the game in the right hand corner. They click on the picture and that will take them to game itself. If it is there first time it will need to load so it may appear gray for a bit. Loading only occurs the very first time you play a game on BSW. Once you are in the game lobby you can type (/join) and that will seat you in a spot, once everyone is seated you can (/start) the game. Remember don't use the brackets on any of the forward slash commands. Unfortunately there is no bot play on for Dominion on BSW.

LockAndLoad wrote:

Just curious but is learning the boardgame itself a necessity for playing online? I'm interesting in trying Dominion but unfortunately don't have much point buying the boardgame itself as I don't have anyone local to play with.

There are several of us here at GWJ who know how to play, I highly suggest messaging someone like Rabbit, myself or any of the other folks who mentioned they have played on BSW and see if they can't teach you. The game looks complicated but is really easy to learn and hard to master. It's a lot of fun and strategies will vary from game to game depending on what decks are being played. They do have a rules section for each game online. So you can always read through that first if you are interested in getting some idea of how the game plays.

Dax introduced me to the game a couple nights ago. I can help teach people how to play it, but I'm still have no clue exactly how the BSW interface works for setting up a game. Feel free to send me an invite if anyone wants to get a game up and going.

I watched a video on game play and would like to try it out.
If anyone is willing perhaps we can set up a day/time to hop on BSW. I downloaded the client and inadvertently started a game and think I get the general idea on the interface for playing. But it's difficult to try and find a game to hop in to learn on.

e989 wrote:

I watched a video on game play and would like to try it out.
If anyone is willing perhaps we can set up a day/time to hop on BSW. I downloaded the client and inadvertently started a game and think I get the general idea on the interface for playing. But it's difficult to try and find a game to hop in to learn on.

I'd like to give this a shot too. Iv'e read through the rules, but didn't manage to beat the Navigate-BSW-Site minigame yet. Maybe this weekend sometime? Feel free to shoot me a message on Steam or PM here and maybe we could set something up.

Man, everytime I play this game online I like it a little more. I think I'm at that great phase where each new layout of action cards has unexpected and interesting gameplay results. I just got done playing a game with this setup:

Adventurer
Witch (attack)
Library
Mine
Council Room
Militia (attack)
Throne Room
Bureaucrat (attack)
Gardens
Chapel

Now, I was expecting things to get ugly really quickly with all that attack stuff out there and no moats (also no cards that add actions at ALL), and sure enough mid-game got really nasty; BUT the chapel card became hugely valuable as it cleared out all the curse cards, 1vp cards, and in my case coppers. Militia lost potency because there was so much crap in people's decks. Finally, in the end game part of my deck was 2 Adventurers and only gold / silver for currency resulting in 4 turns in a row where I bought provinces, one of which I managed to get TWO of them.

That's what makes this game so awesome! Who would've thought you could ever have 16 coin available in one turn with a setup like that?! ...and yes, winning made it even more enjoyable.

I just played this game last night and I have to say this game is brilliant. I'm a recent board gamer that decided to stop playing crap like Clue and Monopoly and decided to look for better games like this. Thanks for the GWJ forums for this recommendation.

Dominion Intrigue comes out next month with a standalone (yet compatible) new set of cards, I for one am excited!

You can get a couple of "promo card packs" from BGG for $4 shipped. Just ignore that it says Pre-Order, I think that's because they fulfill orders as they get more cards. I got mine about a week or so after ordering.

Thanks for the heads-up Liquid, they're on order!

Every person I played with this game really loved it. Share this game before Killer Bunnies takes over.

Wow. It was announced today that Dominion won the Spiel des Jahres. This is amazing!!! A very big deal, for a few reasons.

1. SdJ winners go on to sell many more copies. Sometimes by an order of magnitude more, the German public pays a lot of attention to this award.

2. Dominion was not only authored by an American, but it was developed by an American team and published by an American game company first (Rio Grande Games), then licensed to numerous game companies around the world. Total reversal of the norm.

3. Winning the SdJ nearly guarantees that not only will we see a boat-ton of expansions, but we'll see more games by this designer in the future.