Fallout 3 [SPOILERS] Thread

You know I have like 20+ hours in to my second run (first one was only like 6 hours) and already I am seriously thinking about restarting again...

Dang..!!!

One of the reasons, besides that i thought cannibals shouldnt be allowed to survive, i killed The Family was because i didn't want to be complete goody goody. As it was i was fast tracking up the karma scale and wanted to bring it back down.

mcdonis wrote:

You know I have like 20+ hours in to my second run (first one was only like 6 hours) and already I am seriously thinking about restarting again...

Dang..!!!

I keep thinking about restarting. I probably will tonight and show my fiance the whole character creation bit when i do.

ranalin wrote:

One of the reasons, besides that i thought cannibals shouldnt be allowed to survive, i killed The Family was because i didn't want to be complete goody goody. As it was i was fast tracking up the karma scale and wanted to bring it back down.

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]But they are reformed canibals, they do not eat meat anymore. Just blood[/color]

WiredAsylum wrote:
ranalin wrote:

One of the reasons, besides that i thought cannibals shouldnt be allowed to survive, i killed The Family was because i didn't want to be complete goody goody. As it was i was fast tracking up the karma scale and wanted to bring it back down.

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]But they are reformed canibals, they do not eat meat anymore. Just blood[/color]

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]I know i help broker the deal to keep them self contained, but just because they feel guilty doesn't mean they shouldn't pay for what they've done. They had to go.[/color]

ranalin wrote:
WiredAsylum wrote:
ranalin wrote:

One of the reasons, besides that i thought cannibals shouldnt be allowed to survive, i killed The Family was because i didn't want to be complete goody goody. As it was i was fast tracking up the karma scale and wanted to bring it back down.

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]But they are reformed canibals, they do not eat meat anymore. Just blood[/color]

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]I know i help broker the deal to keep them self contained, but just because they feel guilty doesn't mean they shouldn't pay for what they've done. They had to go.[/color]

stuff wrote:

[color=white]
Nah I joined them!

Then slaughtered that other town [/color]

Anybody know where I can get a steady supply of .308 ammo? I've found more vacuum cleaners by now than .308 bullets. I only have Megaton shop to buy from for now, and it doesn't seem to refresh its stock.

MoonDragon wrote:

Anybody know where I can get a steady supply of .308 ammo? I've found more vacuum cleaners by now than .308 bullets. I only have Megaton shop to buy from for now, and it doesn't seem to refresh its stock.

Ammos been rough for me. One of the things that actually keeps me off the homicidal character path is this issue, which carries over from the previous Fallouts. If you kill everyone, there's no one left to sell you stuff. So there's Moira, there's the merchant at The Family, there's another one at Rivet City. I can't verify the supply is steady though, I just buy ammo as soon as I see it. Those are the sniper bullets, right?

Rat Boy wrote:
Doug wrote:

The mirelurks die to face shots fairly quickly

The only trouble is getting that face shot with a reasonable percentage in VATS is a tough chore.

I wait for them to come right up to me, then I usually have a ~80% face shot hit, queue up 3-4 SMG or shotgun shots and watch them fall. But certainly, if you miss the face, that shell soaks up all damage. If it helps, you can start with a frag mine to cripple their legs to slow them down. That tactic is nearly necessary against the bigger mirelurker varieties.

.308 is sold often in Rivet City.

unntrlaffinity wrote:

Those are the sniper bullets, right?

Correct. .308 is a sniper rifle bullet.

Doug wrote:

.308 is sold often in Rivet City.

Awesome. Thank you. Now I just gotta figure out where Rivet City is before I run out of my 6 bullets.

Eezy_Bordone wrote:
ranalin wrote:

Oh, where do you get power armor training? I dont see it listed on any upcoming perk, and dont see it listed in the skills we have.

It's not available until later in the game as I understand it so that people couldn't make a beeline for it and be Uber from the beginning. This was at least what the devs were saying in interviews prior to the games release.

There may be other ways to learn how to use power armor, but the only way of that I know for sure is from:

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]The Brotherhood of Steel.[/color]

Where is vault 106?
Or for that matter any other vault located?
I have pillaging to do!

On a side note I really love doing the slaver missions out of paradise falls. Not only is it cool to be a huge badass, but the mesmetron read awesome stun gun is tight.

I am thinking of a project that may be done on the internet already.
But a huge spoilerific map with every location mapped on it.

WiredAsylum wrote:

I am thinking of a project that may be done on the internet already.
But a huge spoilerific map with every location mapped on it.

A quick Google gives me this.

tanstaafl wrote:
WiredAsylum wrote:

I am thinking of a project that may be done on the internet already.
But a huge spoilerific map with every location mapped on it.

A quick Google gives me this.

Is anybody else seeing the irony of the site that made the most caustic statements about the game being the first to put together detailed maps?

ranalin wrote:
JC wrote:

Can someone PLEASE tell me where the heck the key is hidden in metro station for the safe? I've wandered the entire thing over and over looking for the key hidden in the fire hose case... I have seen ZERO fire hose cases. I'm starting to think they were left out of the 360 version.

first one i found was in the first section of the subway area that leads into The Family main hall. There's a gaurd station setup with a guard there you can talk to. Against the wall is a fire hose case.

He meant the station related to the "Those!" quest line.

The firehose box is inside a small, separate compartment of one of the many rooms found inside the station. The door to the compartment is easy to miss, but if you look through all the rooms carefully you should have no problem finding it.

Now, my questions:

Found a "John's Key" inside the bed and breakfast place close to vault 106. What is it for?
I got to the end of Vault 106. It ended in a pretty cool fight, but was that all? My lockpicking was way too low for a couple of doors. Did I miss anything important?
I spent a night at the Megaton house, and woke up to Paladin Hoss, whom I ran into at Fall's Church, holding a rocket launcher and pointing it in my direction. He didn't shoot, didn't talk, and I couldn't speak to him. He was just standing there so I decided to leave him alone. Bug?

Thirteenth wrote:
ranalin wrote:
JC wrote:

Can someone PLEASE tell me where the heck the key is hidden in metro station for the safe? I've wandered the entire thing over and over looking for the key hidden in the fire hose case... I have seen ZERO fire hose cases. I'm starting to think they were left out of the 360 version.

first one i found was in the first section of the subway area that leads into The Family main hall. There's a gaurd station setup with a guard there you can talk to. Against the wall is a fire hose case.

He meant the station related to the "Those!" quest line.

The firehose box is inside a small, separate compartment of one of the many rooms found inside the station. The door to the compartment is easy to miss, but if you look through all the rooms carefully you should have no problem finding it.

Now, my questions:

Found a "John's Key" inside the bed and breakfast place close to vault 106. What is it for?
I got to the end of Vault 106. It ended in a pretty cool fight, but was that all? My lockpicking was way too low for a couple of doors. Did I miss anything important?
I spent a night at the Megaton house, and woke up to Paladin Hoss, whom I ran into at Fall's Church, holding a rocket launcher and pointing it in my direction. He didn't shoot, didn't talk, and I couldn't speak to him. He was just standing there so I decided to leave him alone. Bug?

Paladin Hoss is watching you masturbate.

Rat Boy wrote:

Paladin Hoss is watching you masturbate.

Can you nuke Megaton after you disabled the bomb?

No one has mentioned the laser pistols - I've got three so far and I'm waiting for my repair to go up so I can get one into good shape.

I had a really cool thing happen at one location. I was fighting some raiders inside a building and as I tossed a grenade at one in the distance, another crossed about 15 feet in front of me and started aiming at me. The grenade sailed past his legs (I screwed up the throw) and bounced off a counter behind him. He yelled "Oh sh*t!" and ran around the other side of the counter to get away from it, totally forgetting about shooting me. It was very realistic. I shot him as soon as I had AP again, of course.

Another time I had two raiders approaching. I fired three shots each that did enough damage that they just turned around and fled. Awesome AI. (I've got the multi-threaded settings turned on, maybe that makes a difference.)

Azure Chicken wrote:

Has anyone figured out (or is it even possible) to get to the Vault that the raiders say is under Springvale School? I don't know how to proceed with this.

If you read the computer logs, the raiders were using the school as a base while trying to tunnel into megaton, until the leader decided that the nearby vault (yours) would probably be a better target. Then things went horribly wrong.

I was wandering around near a decent sized group of buildings when I happened upon about 3 raiders. Saw them on my compass, so I crept near to kill them. (My sneak is about 20...) One of them spotted me right off and alerted his buddies. So now there are 4 in front of me and 3 coming from my left. I retreated to the only cover I could find: a round concrete pillar. By the time I made it there, I had already introduced one raider to the concept of 'buckshot', but there were still 6 of them coming... I'm hosing anyone who gets near with a Chinese Assault Rifle, one of them gets wise and runs off, while to go hide behind a dumpster. With a wall right behind them. I figure its time to break out the missile launcher again... Now where they are standing is about a 20x40 area made by two walls and a fence; the entire area went up in flames, so much that it took some hunting to find one of the bodies afterwards. So, 4 down, 3 to go. Hosed one with the AK, switched to the .44 magnum for a bit more punch and accuracy, start retreating while frantically downing stimpacks, but still they come. Ah the joy of VATS+Nuka-grenade! A spectacular explosion tore ones legs off, while a pyro-euphoria encouraged me to blast the remaining raider with multiple rounds of .44 Magnum. Fun times, especially after the chicken returned with a combat shotgun only to have his head shot off before he could draw...

I discovered a text-based adventure game on a computer terminal in the Hubris Comics building south of Greyditch. It only takes a few minutes to beat. You don't really get anything for doing it, but still, it's neat.

Ok so I finally made it to the Galaxy News headquarters and...

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]Got to use the "Fatboy" for the first time....OMG...awesome![/color]

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]Now I have a laser rifle, plasma rifle, custom laser pistol and custom sub-machine gun along with my previously mentioned stuffs. You get the vault locations from the Brotherhood once you clean out the purification plant. If anyone else has had to do the virtual vault part yet, may I just say WAAAAAAH! That part messed with me, and I've been evil from the start.[/color]

Firehose nozzles are more common in the DC ruins. Also, just because no one's mentioned it yet, you get pilot lights (for the Shishkebab) from ovens.

Is there any way to find out more info about the escaped android if you've already reported him as dead? The dialog option doesn't come up when I talked to Pinkerton in Rivet City (because I couldn't figure out that the entrance to the bow wasn't the locked door, but one underwater at the break), and the quest is completed so there's no markers to follow any more.

boogle wrote:
spoiler wrote:

[color=white]Now I have a laser rifle, plasma rifle, custom laser pistol and custom sub-machine gun along with my previously mentioned stuffs. You get the vault locations from the Brotherhood once you clean out the purification plant. If anyone else has had to do the virtual vault part yet, may I just say WAAAAAAH! That part messed with me, and I've been evil from the start.[/color]

I refused to follow his evil instructions and found another way to solve that particular quest and even got good karma.

I got a question, what do you have to do in Grayditch? I can't enter the shack in front of the Deli...

Mex wrote:

I got a question, what do you have to do in Grayditch? I can't enter the shack in front of the Deli...

There should be a kid out wandering around nearby ( I found him being attacked by raiders near the Super Duper Mart), talk to him and he'll kick off a quest called "THOSE!" which takes place in and under Grayditch. After you complete the quest you'll gain access to the shack.

Mex wrote:

I refused to follow his evil instructions and found another way to solve that particular quest and even got good karma.

I got a question, what do you have to do in Grayditch? I can't enter the shack in front of the Deli...

Not there yet man. I seriously was freaked out by a lot of that stuff. If you haven't already, there is a GWJ vent channel for FO3, get on its fun times to brag about what you do :).
Also, on .308 ammo. There are 2 merchants that will sell it, the guys in Rivet City and the Weapons caravan.
The weapons caravan will only sell .308 ammo if you fully invest in them. This means dropping 700 caps at cantebury commons, but it is worth it.

I just had a random encounter that struck me as particularly amusing.

I was exploring the area around Megaton (just to see what was out there) when two people ran past me. I follow to where they take cover behind a rock and try to talk to them. I discover that they are slaves and are "Fleeing" (and so won't talk to me).

Suddenly bullets start flying and both slaves are killed. I turn around and see two slavers standing there, pretty much ignoring me.

About this point a mole-rat shows up and one of the slavers starts shooting at it. The mole-rat runs off, slaver following.

I walk up to the remaining slaver and try to talk to him but he won't reply. I shrug, pull out my baseball bat (my main weapon so far) and pop into VATS. I proceed to hit him three times.

I somehow don't kill him but I cripple his arm and he drops his weapon. He screams and runs away.

I start to follow but start taking gunfire from his buddy, now on his way back. I duck behind a rock and switch to my shotgun. The buddy runs around the rock and without using VATS I let loose a point-blank shot into his face. His body drops like a rock while his head goes bouncing down the slope about 20 feet away. (Critical headshot FTW!)

I look around and the first slaver is cowering behind another rock. I start towards him and he runs off, yelling "Help! Help!" I run after him and he runs straight into a pack of three mole-rats, which slow him down long enough for me to catch up. A shotgun blast to the back puts him down and I switch back to my baseball bat to finish off the mole-rats.

I was majorly impressed with how natural and organic the entire encounter and combat felt. Not a contrived, set-piece battle; just another day in the Wasteland. I love this game!

Mex wrote:

I refused to follow his evil instructions and found another way to solve that particular quest and even got good karma.

Ah ha, interesting! I'd hoped there was a non-jerk way of finishing this part, but I couldn't find it first time around. I may try to reload the save I did just before hand and give it another go. I thought this area was pretty dang cool.

I must admit I was a bit startled to

[color=white]find ol' dad there. I hope that doesn't mean I'm getting close to the end of the main story line - I stumbled across vault 112 by accident at about level 5 or so.[/color]