Sons of Anarchy Catch-All (*Spoilers*)

As always, the music was great in the finale.

I had a few questions:

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1. What's with the school bus? Why did Piney and the boys show up in a big yellow kid carrier, and where did they get it?
2. Wouldn't Unser be telegraphing his involvement in the murder of Stahl by leaving his gun and badge on his desk before leaving to pull over the feds so the sons could whack Jimmy? I'm not sure why he had them punch him at the end...what could his story be? I pulled them over to give them an anonomous tip and the IRA jumped us and killed Jimmy and Stahl and then just punched me in the mouth? Kinda strange combined with his giving up his gun and badge.

I'm just trying to make sense of it.

Nomad wrote:

I had a few questions:

Spoiler:

1. What's with the school bus? Why did Piney and the boys show up in a big yellow kid carrier, and where did they get it?
2. Wouldn't Unser be telegraphing his involvement in the murder of Stahl by leaving his gun and badge on his desk before leaving to pull over the feds so the sons could whack Jimmy? I'm not sure why he had them punch him at the end...what could his story be? I pulled them over to give them an anonomous tip and the IRA jumped us and killed Jimmy and Stahl and then just punched me in the mouth? Kinda strange combined with his giving up his gun and badge.

I'm just trying to make sense of it.

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1. I think it was just the least conspicuous vehicle to use.

2. I saw Unser leaving his badge behind as a symbolic sign of him no longer being a cop of any real sort. Maybe he'll retire int he first ep next season. The punch could just be what it seemed, an alibi. The nly iffy part to me is Stahl, but could be explained as IRA execution for messing with them.

Dr.Ghastly wrote:
Nomad wrote:

I had a few questions:

Spoiler:

1. What's with the school bus? Why did Piney and the boys show up in a big yellow kid carrier, and where did they get it?
2. Wouldn't Unser be telegraphing his involvement in the murder of Stahl by leaving his gun and badge on his desk before leaving to pull over the feds so the sons could whack Jimmy? I'm not sure why he had them punch him at the end...what could his story be? I pulled them over to give them an anonomous tip and the IRA jumped us and killed Jimmy and Stahl and then just punched me in the mouth? Kinda strange combined with his giving up his gun and badge.

I'm just trying to make sense of it.

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1. I think it was just the least conspicuous vehicle to use.

2. I saw Unser leaving his badge behind as a symbolic sign of him no longer being a cop of any real sort. Maybe he'll retire int he first ep next season. The punch could just be what it seemed, an alibi. The nly iffy part to me is Stahl, but could be explained as IRA execution for messing with them.

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Stahl was the lead investigator on the IRA so it makes sense to take her as well.

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I thought that Charming PD was done for and that the sheriff's office was taking over? so Unser was on his way out anyway.

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I thought Unser was going to die soon anyway with his cancer.

Everything said above about Unser is true. It really, really sucks to be him.

Just finished the last episode. Comments and questions:

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What Unser does at the end puts a whole new light on Clay's "we'll remember what you have done today" comment before they roll out. I read the missing badge and the joint as signs he's in his last days of life, not just as a cop. My only problem with the situation where they killed Stahl and Jimmy was the ATF's not seeing Unser's missing badge. The agents would catch that. LOVED Jimmy's getting the Glasgow Smile.

2.

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Not sure about the show's withholding the info about the club's being in on Jax's deal. On the one hand, it's a cheap storytelling technique. On the other hand, it means we saw the ending through Gemma's eyes, not Jax's, which fits with the camera work at the end--panning around Gemma' head as she reads the letter, the shot in the truck that clearly id's, visually, Jax as the head of the club. He earned his stripes as future pres by killing an ATF agent and the club's biggest antagonist. Bloody crowning.

3.

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The ATF's roadblock to help the club escape the Russians. What? Did I miss Jax's telling the club they were handing Jimmy over to the ATF? I feel like I fast-forwarded through a scene or something (I watched on DVR).

4.

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The club gets their revenge by ripping off the Russians, who made Jimmy look like a two-bit chump. What is the plan to survive jail with the Russians ticked at them? And then to handle things when they get out? Also, I love Keith Scwhatever from back in the Angel days, but I'm not looking forward to a whole year of his Chekov-like Russian accent, if he's to be the Season 4 big baddy.

5.

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Great for Opie.

6.

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Poor Otto.

Loved it. Great wrap for the season.

CptGlanton wrote:

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The ATF's roadblock to help the club escape the Russians. What? Did I miss Jax's telling the club they were handing Jimmy over to the ATF? I feel like I fast-forwarded through a scene or something (I watched on DVR).

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They get waved through. It's hard to see--so hard to see, I didn't totally accept it, but resigned myself to saying "If I bitch about it, someone's just going to point out they got waved through." So now I've become my own worst enemy.

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I know they get waved through. I'm wondering how Jax was supposed to explain the ATF's showing up at all, and then leaving Jimmy behind in the van? That last part looked like it was supposed to be part of the fake-plan. I felt like I missed an entire angle of the double-dealing.

[Spoiler]Eh? The whole show conclusion was based on the fact that Jax has been cluing the club into the "rat" dealings the entire time. Like Jemma, we weren't a part of that. The club knew the ATF was going to be there, in fact it looked like they were reliant on that to get the Ruskies off them. Why else would they have just sat at Scenic Overlook waiting for the Russians to realize they'd been duped?

LiquidMantis wrote:
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Eh? The whole show conclusion was based on the fact that Jax has been cluing the club into the "rat" dealings the entire time. Like Jemma, we weren't a part of that. The club knew the ATF was going to be there, in fact it looked like they were reliant on that to get the Ruskies off them. Why else would they have just sat at Scenic Overlook waiting for the Russians to realize they'd been duped?

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Exactly, as I said. And the ATF has to believe that the club didn't know that the ATF had been told to be there, which seems unlikely.

This series, and especially this episode, has been stretching my disbelief a little thin at times, but no big deal.

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Anyway, I took the ending shot in the truck, with Jax sitting on one side and the rest of the Sons on the other, as a visual sign that despite it all, he's still alone and doesn't fit in with the rest of them. This was shown almost simultaneously with Tara finding his father's letters describing his isolation from the club back then as well.

gewy wrote:

This series, and especially this episode, has been stretching my disbelief a little thin at times, but no big deal.

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Anyway, I took the ending shot in the truck, with Jax sitting on one side and the rest of the Sons on the other, as a visual sign that despite it all, he's still alone and doesn't fit in with the rest of them. This was shown almost simultaneously with Tara finding his father's letters describing his isolation from the club back then as well.

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Except that all of them have their heads lowered, as if bowing to him, while his is raised, with his chin up and even looking over their heads, iirc. I took it as his becoming the king, de facto, at least. His brains pulled off a win that their muscle never could have.

Ooooooh sh*t! I've forgotten where Alvarez stands as of the end of s3.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Ooooooh sh*t! I've forgotten where Alvarez stands as of the end of s3.

I still would watch if he starred as a baker.

Tagging for future reference. The wife and I are powering through seasons 1 & 2 on netflix instant right now, and this show is effin ridonkulous.

While Henry Rollins lends the show some street cred, the guy still cannot act.

Speaking of the Shakespeare vibe that was mentioned earlier, interesting that you all mentioned Hamlet. I'm not as familiar with that piece, but I've been calling Gemma Lady MacBeth the whole time.

nel e nel wrote:

Tagging for future reference. The wife and I are powering through seasons 1 & 2 on netflix instant right now, and this show is effin ridonkulous.

While Henry Rollins lends the show some street cred, the guy still cannot act.

Speaking of the Shakespeare vibe that was mentioned earlier, interesting that you all mentioned Hamlet. I'm not as familiar with that piece, but I've been calling Gemma Lady MacBeth the whole time.

Except that Lady Macbeth's hands are covered in metaphorical blood, and she washes them in a vain attempt to remove her guilt. Whereas Gemma has to wash her hands because she keeps having to stab fools.

Looks like we're back at it on Tuesday. Everyone have their DVRs set?

i can give ya "hell yea"

Unfortunately my wife nixed the idea of me having a beard like Opie by start of the new season.

GioClark wrote:

Looks like we're back at it on Tuesday. Everyone have their DVRs set?

Yup!

I've watched the first season and I really enjoyed it. Never got round to watching any of the others though

Looking forward to more

Indeed!

We're still waiting on Netflix to get Season 3 so we can catch up! We'll be recording the new season as it airs, but I don't know when we'll get around to watching it.

I cant wait, sadly the only way I can watch it is by downloading it the next day like I do with true blood. We got a new TV today that has some slight issues but at 50in should be fun to watch it on that.

Thought I'd resurrect this thread, because sh*t is getting real in season 4.

Also, I'm just not getting a few things so far:

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Roosevelt blackmailing Juice about his race.

First off, I'm having a hard time figuring which one of the Sons would care a whit that Juice's father who he never met was black. And I'm a little bemused by all of this because I'd just assumed that Happy was black this whole time. This whole plot line just seems bizarre on a lot of levels.

Odd things you find out on the Internet: apparently the guy that plays Happy is an actual Hell's Angel.

kazooka wrote:

Also, I'm just not getting a few things so far:

Yeah, it's weird. Apparently, it's a real biker thing, and Sutter explained in a blog post that they'd get deeper into the politics behind all that later in the season. In the meantime, though, the show sure isn't selling why this is a big deal.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:
kazooka wrote:

Also, I'm just not getting a few things so far:

Yeah, it's weird. Apparently, it's a real biker thing, and Sutter explained in a blog post that they'd get deeper into the politics behind all that later in the season. In the meantime, though, the show sure isn't selling why this is a big deal.

Yeah include me in the why should we give a sh*t column, as far as I can remember there has never been any sign that anyone would care. Weak setup as far as I'm concerned.

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