All Pro Football 2k8 - Season 4 - Preseason

LOL, of course I plan on finishing out Season 3. This is the Season 4 thread, right?

Grumpicus wrote:
LOL, of course I plan on finishing out Season 3. This is the Season 4 thread, right? ;)

Yeah, you just mentioned selling a $10 game, so I was confused.

Alright, I'm officially done with Madden. What I really want to do is start playing some football that feels like football. Anyone want to play some pick-up games on Legend? I'd really like to give this a shot if others are into it.

Otherwise, I think we are going to start from scratch. I got the feeling that keepers were not popular, which is cool. Experimentation with different players is part of the fun here. What is the preference on draft order? Should we use our finish from last season, or go random again?

I think we need a roll call, as well. Grump is out. Everybody else in?

Roll call is definitely the place to start. Once I get a roll call I can start giving people access to the draft spreadsheet. The draft order will be determined by order of finish from last season with team records and then head to heads as tie-breakers. So once we finish Season 3 and get a roll call I can fill in the draft order.

The question will then be what to do with new people who want in, in terms of draft order.

If they are expansion teams, put them first, otherwise, let's just slide them in where the teams leaving are. Dp we still have the docs from last draft to look at? That will affect how I plan my draft board, and would benefit the noobs.

By the way, from the Season 3 thread...

The spreadsheet from last season is still available to players from last season if they want to go and see how the draft went down last year.

The spreadsheet from Season 4 is zeroed out, minus draft order, and it's available online as well. It can be read by anyone who was in last season. No one has been added yet, and the draft order hasn't been set, because I haven't been able to get people to give me a proper roll call.

I'm in again

ruthlessmuffin wrote:
I'm in again

How do you context switch between this and Madden? I'm struggling with that right now. I want to be the commish of Season 4 and all that good stuff, but today I played my playoff game after a week of NCAA and I was awful. It's like a completely different game. Which isn't to say I'm ready to bail on APF. More that I'm honestly curious how people who play Madden and APF can switch between one game and the other game.

As I alluded to in the S3 thread, I think that, just like when I was switching between Halo and COD4, the more you switch, the better you get at making the switch. I'm not to that level of proficiency but the fact that I had to make that adjustment once already in my first playoff game against Jayhawker felt like it helped me make it more quickly this time.

I'm in if you'll have me.

I'm still interested in joining the APF league.

Yeah, both of you guys are in as far as I'm concerned. We just need season 3 to end and we'll kick off season 4. Kind of unofficially here is the list of people I have confirmed as of right now.

firesloth
ertic
DSGamer
Jayhawker
maxox
Prederick
ruthlessmuffin
oldmanscene24
frankiemumbles
ElliotX

This is based on messages here, PMs and conversations. Here's who might play, but hasn't confirmed.

baggachipz

Anyone else?

It's getting close to that time where I can open the spreadsheet to new people (players from last season can already get at the Season 4 spreadsheet). After the final game of Season 3 I'll put together the draft order and we can start looking at the draft.

Crazy suggestion time!

I'd still like to try to emulate two divisions. Ten teams in one division just feels wrong.

In the game and on the web site, it would still operate as one ten team league. But we could place the teams in separate divisions on our own, and then DS could create a 10 game schedule where we just play the other four teams twice each. Then we could set the playoffs for just two teams and have the champions play each other. I'm assuming that DS can manually put whichever two teams he wants into the playoffs, so correct me if I am wrong.

If this is too much work, or too confusing, it's no big deal. But I really like the idea of home and away schedules if it is possible.

DSGamer wrote:

This is based on messages here, PMs and conversations. Here's who might play, but hasn't confirmed.

baggachipz

Anyone else?

It's getting close to that time where I can open the spreadsheet to new people (players from last season can already get at the Season 4 spreadsheet). After the final game of Season 3 I'll put together the draft order and we can start looking at the draft.

I'd like to play again, but if it's an odd number of players, etc., I have no problem holding out. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm wishy-washy. Mostly because this game drives me insane. Oh, who am I kidding, I want in! I can't quit yew!

Cool, let's try to find one more then. We should be able to.

DSGamer wrote:
Cool, let's try to find one more then. We should be able to.
If you don't find another then as the newest of the new guys I have no problem being left out.

ertic wrote:
I can't wait for the new season.

I bought into the Madden hype machine - bought the collectors edition - HATE the game.

2K is a top to bottom the better game - at least for me

Same here. I can definetly see how some people would like Madden better. There are areas where I even think Madden does a bit better (the tackling system, as in the system itself, not the animations feels superior, especially the ability to get out of tackles mid-wrap without waiting to see if your marker flashes) but APF does more better for me, at least. Passing especially. I just wish it wasn't quite so offense-centric.

I can't wait for the new season.

I bought into the Madden hype machine - bought the collectors edition - HATE the game.

2K is top to bottom the better game - at least for me

We should be starting soon. Waiting on the championship game. Then we draw up the draft order and on we go. I'd still like to try to snag one more player if we can, though, so we don't have to drop anyone.

As to the issue of divisions? I have no control over who does and doesn't make the playoffs and what brackets they go in. The best I could do (and this is an idea worth considering) is to put teams into divisions such that you play those teams twice and a couple other teams once. Would make scheduling much easier for me. However, while the 2k online season is robust it isn't so robust as to allow that. In order to accomplish something like Jayhawker is describing we'd have to run the two divisions and then kill the season at the end and start a playoff separately. Not sure how I feel about that. 2k is just weird about playoffs anyway. How many times have we seen a 1 and 2 seed in the same bracket? Or the best two teams playing right off. It doesn't get that part right and if I could change it manually I would. But it won't let me.

Anyway, we'll be off and running soon, I hope.

Dude, don't hold up 8 or 10 guys just because you're waiting on 2 - one of who isn't even in the next season. At least get the draft going. The only one who might protest is Ruthless and he's such a football machine, I doubt he will.

The best I could do (and this is an idea worth considering) is to put teams into divisions such that you play those teams twice and a couple other teams once.

I would actually prefer this to playing the division teams twice and no one else.

I'm also happy as a clam to go on as we have. I'm done with Madden...couldn't get into it.

Madden is the devil!

ertic wrote:
Madden is the devil!

...but it is pretty. Wow, devilish and pretty. Sounds like some women from my past.

Maybe next couple days I'll start the draft. Do we have an even number yet? Can we recruit one more so someone doesn't have to drop out?

How about everybody, play a game online. I'm sure between all of us we can fine 1, good player. Also divisions sounds good. But there should be 4, playoff teams 2 in each division

Well, I'm back from PAX and ready to get this draft rolling. I have acquired super secret info from one of our members that will allow me to sabotage his draft. Bwahahahaha!!!!

Seriously, I had a great conversation with Elliotx at the S&T at PAX Friday night. I'm pretty pumped to get things rolling.

If you guys are ready to start the season then you can take my name out to get an even amount of teams. I will be out of town for about the next 10 days so even if there was a spot available I don't know how well drafting over my iPhone would work out.

Maybe I can get in on Season 5.

I'm sure we won't be ready for the draft in the next 10 days. So you won't need to leave, that will just give us more time to find sombody have a safe trip.

Yeah. Still waiting for Season 3 to conclude.

I wouldn't bother waiting if I were you considering that RuthlessMuffin's box is with Microsoft.