Madden 2009 Online League *Renamed*

SwampYankee wrote:
trowan wrote:
Elliottx wrote:

I am down for the Seahawks Amazed I could get into this thread so late and still claim them. Seahawk fans must be too elitist to play a commoner game like Madden.

Seattle still has a team?

Says the Browns fan...

Says the Chiefs fan...

trowan wrote:
SwampYankee wrote:
trowan wrote:
Elliottx wrote:

I am down for the Seahawks Amazed I could get into this thread so late and still claim them. Seahawk fans must be too elitist to play a commoner game like Madden.

Seattle still has a team?

Says the Browns fan...

Says the Chiefs fan...

See, I was surprised to learn that Kansas in fact had a City....then I realized it was in Missouri.

Oh man, this is going to be hard to do. I just rented Madden '08 and...well, I don't ever feel like I'm in control of the players. I'm going to keep plugging, but it really feels like the CPU is determining a lot of what my player is doing.

An example -- I hit the hole running the ball through the line, only to see an LB coming in to stop me, so I hit the spin button and...hurdle the LB as he dives to the ground (getting squished by the next one in line)! And then the way the DEs swing way outside the tackle boxes. The original play may have suggested this, but if I decide to go inside based on a read of the play, the game shouldn't force me to go outside (leaving a gaping hole).

Okay, I'll keep at it. It might just be that I'm still adjusting to the controls...

Any advice??

firesloth wrote:

Oh man, this is going to be hard to do. I just rented Madden '08 and...well, I don't ever feel like I'm in control of the players. I'm going to keep plugging, but it really feels like the CPU is determining a lot of what my player is doing.

Any advice??

Yes. Wait for Madden '09, because the animation engine is being completely replaced, which has more impact on the controls & mechanics than anything else. It's probably going to "feel" significantly different.

*Legion* wrote:
firesloth wrote:

Oh man, this is going to be hard to do. I just rented Madden '08 and...well, I don't ever feel like I'm in control of the players. I'm going to keep plugging, but it really feels like the CPU is determining a lot of what my player is doing.

Any advice??

Yes. Wait for Madden '09, because the animation engine is being completely replaced, which has more impact on the controls & mechanics than anything else. It's probably going to "feel" significantly different.

I'm in the same boat as firesloth. I tried Madden 08 and just never cared for the feel of the game. the running backs felt like they were gliding over the ground, rather than running on it.

I will definitely be giving Madden 09 a real shot this year. But I will have a tough time not comparing it to 2K Football.

I just hope they put my giants into the 90's this year. Last year were 85. Eat that Patriots and your mid 90's ranking. I went to the University of Delaware though, so I may have to run the Ravens.

Jayhawker wrote:

I will definitely be giving Madden 09 a real shot this year. But I will have a tough time not comparing it to 2K Football.

That is a big part of the problem. I just finished a league game with Elliott and, man, 2k really have done a nice job with so many parts of that game. There is a great tension when you're playing league games (unless I'm playing DSGamer or ruthlessmuffin, in which case I'm getting blown out and, therefore, drinking a lot). I have to go to bed before I try to analyze my stats any more...

Legion -- Let's hope you're right. Any improvement would go a long way...

MaverickDago wrote:

I just hope they put my giants into the 90's this year.

I don't see it. The Giants got hot at exactly the right time last year, but it doesn't change the fact that their offense was pretty pedestrian for most of the season.

Ahmad Bradshaw doing his best Timmy Smith impression in the Super Bowl doesn't mean the team has their answer at RB. They have a number of guys who can start for a stretch, but it remains to be seen if they've got a single guy or a complimentary 1-2 combo to really lean on.

Manning overcame mediocrity to peak late. The secondary overcame mediocrity to peak late. The wide receivers beneath Burress overcame mediocrity to peak late. How much of any of that is permanent?

And, of course, Strahan is now gone.

The last team to perform a similar peak-at-the-right-time deal was the 2005 Steelers, who were 8-8 and out of the playoffs the next year.

I'm not saying the Giants are necessarily going to repeat that, but I don't see a 90's Madden team there yet. That requires a team that consistently posts 10+ win seasons. They've got 2 in their last 3 years, which is a good start, but they've got to prove this season that they're over the hump, and not a 2005 Steelers or 2002 Buccaneers "one and done" deal.

If there's a decent league system...

Saints.

I'm not going to say anything about Madden, since the first post warned against anti-EA sentiment. I'll trying to keep a decent APF 2k8 league going for quite some time, though. So there will always be options and those who want to will get to double-dip in two leagues. As long as some people continue to play APF 2k8, I'll be happy to pretend Madden doesn't exist.

If Maverick doesn't take the Giants, I will. Looking forward to seeing an online football league with the actual NFL teams and players.

Grumpicus = Saints

Thanks, *Legion*

Hmmmm

I would normally take the Bears but Wired beat me to it.

I'll take the Steelers instead.

kaostheory wrote:

I'll take the Steelers instead.

I must break you.

Oh fine, give me the Cowboys. I won't be able to resist buying it anyway.

I think I would prefer the Arizona Cardinals to the Lions. I was originally a Football Cards fan back in the day when Ottis Anderson was still OJ, and Neil Lomax was the second coming of Bart Starr. I loved them in the days of Jim Hart, Terry Metcalf, Roy Green, Pat Tilley, and an OL that eight fingers (Conrad Dobler!).

Et tu, Jayhawker?

Fine, I'll put a placeholder on the Steelers in case this game gets enough Goodjer momentum and turns out to be good.

Dang, Kaos already called them.

Vikings, then.

Spy = Colts
Swampy = Chiefs
Trown = Browns
Legion = Jaguars
Gumbie = Titans
Wired = Bears
Elliotx = Seahawks
Firesloth = Chargers
Jayhawker = Cardinals
Grumpicus = Saints
kaostheory = Steelers
Magnus = Steelers
DSGamer = Vikings

I may have missed someone - I will fix it. Let me know. I should be home all year for once - so I am willing to try the Commish thing with everyone's patience.

Updated as of 17 Jun:

Spy = Colts
Swampy = Chiefs
Trown = Browns
Legion = Jaguars
Gumbie = Titans
Wired = Bears
Elliotx = Seahawks
Firesloth = Chargers
Jayhawker = Cardinals
Grumpicus = Saints
kaostheory = Steelers
Magnus = Cowboys
DSGamer = Vikings

I am still trying to find an actual feature list and some background to the league system. If you have seen anything like it on the interwizzle - post the link. Updated to correct my egregious error of giving Magnus the Steelers :).

Any word on how the recent law suit will change EA's competition this year? Are we unlikely to see the stat and roster upgrades on non-EA games until next year?

Jayhawker wrote:

I think I would prefer the Arizona Cardinals to the Lions. I was originally a Football Cards fan back in the day when Ottis Anderson was still OJ, and Neil Lomax was the second coming of Bart Starr. I loved them in the days of Jim Hart, Terry Metcalf, Roy Green, Pat Tilley, and an OL that eight fingers (Conrad Dobler!).

I thought you wanted the Chefs. If so I'll take the Jets. Maybe we can alternate each "season"

SwampYankee wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

I think I would prefer the Arizona Cardinals to the Lions. I was originally a Football Cards fan back in the day when Ottis Anderson was still OJ, and Neil Lomax was the second coming of Bart Starr. I loved them in the days of Jim Hart, Terry Metcalf, Roy Green, Pat Tilley, and an OL that eight fingers (Conrad Dobler!).

I thought you wanted the Chefs. If so I'll take the Jets. Maybe we can alternate each "season"

I'll take the Chief if they are available, but it's not a deal breaker for me either. I'm open to trading off if it comes to that. But there is a chance I'm not going to play Madden. I think the chances are better than they were with MLB 2K8, as I love playing league football.

And yeah, DS , I'm interested in Madden, but I'm not happy about it.

But I plan on continuing APFB for as long as we can field a league. I get the feeling there are still enough guys that will want to run another draft league. So I see playing Madden and APFB at the same time, worst case scenario.

It's okay, Jayhawker.

I can forgive. It's just sad that I'm inevitably going to be reduced to playing a game I like considerably less (actually a game I dislike) because it has the player/team names and thus people I know play it.

Hopefully some of us can keep APF alive and kicking.

DSGamer wrote:

It's okay, Jayhawker.

I can forgive. It's just sad that I'm inevitably going to be reduced to playing a game I like considerably less (actually a game I dislike) because it has the player/team names and thus people I know play it.

Hopefully some of us can keep APF alive and kicking.

I'm in for more...the draft was a great way to go this time around. I'm still having a hard time getting my head around "official rosters" and what that means for competitive balance. Here's hoping Madden '09 is better than '08...

Even better: here's hoping they release another 2k football game!

To hell with EA and Madden 2k football rules all.

Note the Chief fans going: "It's OK man, you can have the Chiefs."

*Legion* wrote:

Note the Chief fans going: "It's OK man, you can have the Chiefs."

Heh...

I think they are building for the future, and are two seasons away in their plan. In the mean time this is a pretty boring team. Brody Croyle inspires no one, and there is not even a good vet option to get excited about. It will be interesting to see how much improvement we see in the OL this season, but much of that is banking on a couple of rookies performing well. Without a lot of improvement, Larry Johnson has just become a boring back. Any comparisons he drew of Jim brown have been exposed as a farce, since he doesn't seem to have that level of talent that can perform on a sub .500 team. He's s good back, but he's not really scaring anybody, and doesn't seem to have that burning desire to be that guy. We'll see how this season goes.

Glenn Dorsey was a great pick for them at #5, but I'm not sure how much impact he will have in his rookie year. I think the defense is improving, but it is doing it by getting real young, which is a gamble. It can pay off huge, or stall progress.

All-in-all, they are just kind of in a "meh" mode right now, but are building a team the right way.

But they have probably the most boring team to play with in Madden this year. Give me my APFB league with a draft over that any day.

I'd like to play and I'll take the mighty Jets! Err, at least they were 35 years ago or so. But this is Pennington's year!!!

Actually free up the Vikings if you want. I've been playing around with NCAA 08 the last few days and the game is severely broken. No instant replay during online games. DBs routinely defend the receiver then instantly turn around and pick off your pass or worse intercept it over the shoulder without turning their heads. There are literally no holes to run through. I either run around the end or I run up the gut and cross my fingers. I can't methodically follow blockers. And many of the menus force you to hit LT or RT then push up or down to cycle through stats, etc. rather than just tapping LT or RT.

Very strange game. Feels about 5 years behind APF2k8. If Madden is leaps and bounds beyond what I've seen in NCAA 08 I might reconsider. But after giving an EA football game a fair shake I feel no compelling reason to reserve a team. Sorry.