Zune owners: You answered my questions!

duckilama wrote:

Another really neat thing about managing your podcasts individually is you can do chronological order PER PODCAST.
So if you start listening to, say, Morning Edition, you probably don't want to listen to them OLDEST to NEWEST. You set that one to maintain, say, the 3 most recent ones.
But let's say you also start listening to one of the MANY college courses available online by many universities. You don't want to start Biology 101 at the most recent, you want to start at the CRONOLOGICAL first episode. And it's probably easier to just sync the whole semester and have them sorted by date Oldest to Newest.

I noticed that in the Zune software, but I haven't tried it yet. Are those settings reflected on the Zune device? As in, I know it will download oldest-first if set that way, but does the Zune list them in oldest-first order when you go to play them?

That would be badass with a capital "B". I thought from noticing that feature in the software that that might be the case, but I haven't tried it yet.

But yeah, that's ideal for those college course podcasts, and video series podcasts too.

*As I recall* = the Zune orders the episodes in that order. Although, that may have changed with the same update I've complained about.

This must be the largest gathering of Zune owners I've ever seen - NO ONE I know has one.

I enjoy my 80G Zune. Podcasts work great. I only wish there were more 3rd party accessories available.

duckilama wrote:

*As I recall* = the Zune orders the episodes in that order. Although, that may have changed with the same update I've complained about.

Nope - I tried it, and just as one would hope, podcasts set to download in oldest-first order also display in oldest-first order on the device for easy sequential playback.

That's one case where I see value in the "automatically play the next podcast after finishing the last one" feature. Still would prefer to be able to toggle the feature on/off, but still...

Hey guys I'm also 'part of the social'. I find the software is okay, but has anyone figured out how to sort albums by CD? I have a Say Anything album that is two CD's but I can't see any fields in the Zune software to set the CD numbers like I can with iTunes.

Also, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE LET ME DELETE INDIVIDUAL PODCAST TRACKS! ARG!!! This isn't very helpful when the name of an episodes gets messed up, like what happened with GWJ 92 I believe, I had two copies of the same podcast because the name of one was wrong and it wouldn't let me delete the wrong one Anyone have any idea if it's possible to resolve this?

Just go to your podcast directory and delete the file... and poof... all gone...

Mysteri0 wrote:

Hey guys I'm also 'part of the social'. I find the software is okay, but has anyone figured out how to sort albums by CD? I have a Say Anything album that is two CD's but I can't see any fields in the Zune software to set the CD numbers like I can with iTunes.

There's a "Disc" field next to every single track, for marking which disc a track is on.

That said, I have long taken to splitting multi-disc albums into separate listings, like "The Wall (CD1)" and "The Wall (CD2)". I've never been happy with how any player handles multi-disc albums otherwise.

lancejt wrote:

Just go to your podcast directory and delete the file... and poof... all gone...

Will that delete the listing from the podcast?

*Legion* wrote:

I've never been happy with how any player handles multi-disc albums otherwise.

Yeah no kidding - 90% of my collection is classical, and a good portion of those are multi-disc sets. Try organizing/retagging a box set of Shostakovich string quartets and you'll want to shoot yourself.

Mysteri0 wrote:

Hey guys I'm also 'part of the social'. I find the software is okay, but has anyone figured out how to sort albums by CD? I have a Say Anything album that is two CD's but I can't see any fields in the Zune software to set the CD numbers like I can with iTunes.

Also, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE LET ME DELETE INDIVIDUAL PODCAST TRACKS! ARG!!! This isn't very helpful when the name of an episodes gets messed up, like what happened with GWJ 92 I believe, I had two copies of the same podcast because the name of one was wrong and it wouldn't let me delete the wrong one Anyone have any idea if it's possible to resolve this?

First question, you can right-click on the track, and click "Edit," which gives you access to re-number the tracks, and/or indicate what disc they're on.

Second question, if you mean delete from the software, just right-click on the episode and click "Delete." If you mean from the device, either start playing the wrong episode, then fast-forward to the end so it shows up as played, and it'll be gone next time you sync, or, right-click on the episode in the software and click "Mark as Played" and it'll disappear next time you sync.

nsmike wrote:

Second question, if you mean delete from the software, just right-click on the episode and click "Delete." If you mean from the device, either start playing the wrong episode, then fast-forward to the end so it shows up as played, and it'll be gone next time you sync, or, right-click on the episode in the software and click "Mark as Played" and it'll disappear next time you sync.

That doesn't actually delete it from the podcast listings, IE I was trying to listen to the Penny-Arcade D&D Podcast, but there is a ton of junk in the listing from before, I can't clear out any of these other listings and have it only display the ones I want, the delete button is grayed out until you select 'Add to Collection' once you do that you can click 'Delete' but it doesn't actually delete the listing from the podcast just the file from the collection, so it's still in the podcast list. With iTunes I was able to remove all the old listings, so for example Smodcast by Kevin Smith and Scott Mosier has 59 podcasts which is over a years worth in iTunes I could go into the podcast and manually delete 50 entries and only have it show the last 9.

*Legion* wrote:

That's one case where I see value in the "automatically play the next podcast after finishing the last one" feature. Still would prefer to be able to toggle the feature on/off, but still...

What's sooooooooooo frustrating about this "feature" is, there's a "Play All" option up at the top of your podcast list!!!
Freakin' either make that a toggle, or make it so you can play a single freakin' podcast.
Clearly they had planned on single play being the default, otherwise, there wouldn't be a "Play All" at the top.

W.
T.
F.

So.. when a podcast ends it automatically moves to the next one for you guys?

Mine's all up to date and it just stops and jumps to the list of all the episodes of that podcast that I have on the Zune.

Mysteri0 wrote:
nsmike wrote:

Second question, if you mean delete from the software, just right-click on the episode and click "Delete." If you mean from the device, either start playing the wrong episode, then fast-forward to the end so it shows up as played, and it'll be gone next time you sync, or, right-click on the episode in the software and click "Mark as Played" and it'll disappear next time you sync.

That doesn't actually delete it from the podcast listings, IE I was trying to listen to the Penny-Arcade D&D Podcast, but there is a ton of junk in the listing from before, I can't clear out any of these other listings and have it only display the ones I want, the delete button is grayed out until you select 'Add to Collection' once you do that you can click 'Delete' but it doesn't actually delete the listing from the podcast just the file from the collection, so it's still in the podcast list. With iTunes I was able to remove all the old listings, so for example Smodcast by Kevin Smith and Scott Mosier has 59 podcasts which is over a years worth in iTunes I could go into the podcast and manually delete 50 entries and only have it show the last 9.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I don't think there's any way to delete something from the listing if it's still available through the feed.

You can tell it "Never Sync with (zune name)" though.

Thin_J wrote:

So.. when a podcast ends it automatically moves to the next one for you guys?

Mine's all up to date and it just stops and jumps to the list of all the episodes of that podcast that I have on the Zune.

The next one in the same series. Not the next series. So if I have 3 GWJs and I play the one on the top of the list, it will autocrapically go to the second and third in the list. It will not finish the last one on a list and then move on to GFW Radio.

Something I've been meaning to ask...

If you open up the Zune software and type, what you're typing shows up in a brown box in the middle of the screen. What I can't figure out is, what is this for? It doesn't do anything as far as I can tell.

It's a dynamic search for artist name by default, but if you click empty space in either the album space or song name section it will search there as well.

duckilama wrote:

The next one in the same series. Not the next series. So if I have 3 GWJs and I play the one on the top of the list, it will autocrapically go to the second and third in the list. It will not finish the last one on a list and then move on to GFW Radio.

That's what I meant too. It stops. If I select one episode and hit play that episode plays and when it's over the Zune goes to the episode list for that individual podcast. I guess I didn't word the previous post quite well enough

Mine stopped doing that with the last software update, Thin_J. It's soooooooooo frustrating.

Well, I got to test the Zune's durability.

Mine took a 5 foot fall onto solid concrete, made a horrifying sound upon impact... and then acted like nothing happened.

Save for a tiny nick on one corner, there was not even any cosmetic damage.

(One lucky part: the player wasn't playing, so the hard drive heads were almost certainly parked)

Mine's hit the concrete floor at work a few times now and it's still going strong. No 5 foot drops though, just from waste height or from the tables in our break area. It's made it's way to the floor in the control room a few times too. It turns out when it's 4am and you've already worked 12 hours you lose a wee bit of coordination and tend to fumble things as you take them out of your pockets.

At least I do.

As an early wedding anniversary gift, I just gave my wife a 4GB (2nd gen) Pink Zune.

I got it refurbished at the Shack for $89.99 and free shipping.

I was hesitant about getting a Zune (being MS and all...), I was originally going to get a 8GB Pink Nano refurbished for $149; but that was a little out my price range... I set the Zune up last weekend for my wife and I was pleasantly surprised! The little thing kicks ass!

FM tuner (with db access), glass display, click and touch access, photos+videos and wireless sync-- I am really impressed. The biggest problem I had was that I could not get mp4 playback to work. So, I had to recode some videos of our dog as .wmv's...

The Zune's software while not as complete as say, iTunes or JRMC, is good enough for my wife.

She loves it, thinks I'm awesome and I may pick up one for myself.

The biggest problem I had was that I could not get mp4 playback to work. So, I had to recode some videos of our dog as .wmv's...

THere's quite a few guides out there for this.
Download Super(it's a GUI front end for FFMPEG). You just need to check the guides for what Codecs/Resolutions to use. Of course, you've already recoded stuff, but just so you know.

Also, there's a registry hack to allow the Zune Software to recognize lots of other A/V formats like DivX/XviD, so you can add them to your collection and let the zune software do the conversion when you sync.

duckilama wrote:

Mine stopped doing that with the last software update, Thin_J. It's soooooooooo frustrating.

Have you noticed that the new 3.0 firmware fixes this?

Podcasts now have a "Play New" option, which plays all new podcasts one after the next (as it was doing before when you'd just select the first one).

Now, when you select a single unplayed podcast, playback stops at the end of that podcast.

It's a nice solution, as I can see how having the unplayed podcasts go from one to the next automatically would be useful, particularly when you've got a sequence of short recordings to listen to. But the behavior is not forced on you anymore.

It ****was**** fixed.

And now, I'm getting the multiple sync thing again. Multiple "copies" of the same episode syncing.

And I think I know what may be causing it.

Before I say what I think the double-sync/double-copies thing is, let me say this - I have NO bias for or against ANY software, application, or company without reason. I like both apps I use for podcasts for their own merits.

That said....
I need to do more testing, but it ****seems****....

If I use iTunes to find a podcast, subscribe OR download an episode, AND THEN subscribe in Zune to the SAME podcast, I get multi-syncing - EVEN AFTER removing the subscription and the iTunes downloaded episodes.

My guess is, iTunes and Zune do not agree on metadata, and Zune dislikes how feeds/episodes "tailored" for iTunes are formed.

Again, this is unconfirmed, but it is observed behavior.

So you're downloading podcasts via iTunes, and pointing the Zune software at the folder that iTunes stores the podcasts?

I'm impressed that that works at all, problematic or no.

I just inherited a 1st gen 30GB Zune from my wife. I downloaded the Zune Software 3.0 on my PC, rebooted and reformatted the Zune and attempted to install Firmware 3.0 on the Zune itself. The warning dialog box tells me 'Not Enough Space on the Zune. Please delete some items and try again. Error C00D124F.'

I don't understand how a reformatted HD can have not enough space, but re-did the reformatting and reinstall a few times anyway to no avail. What's worse is in the reformatting process, the Zune is now left in some kind of 'Recovery Mode Firmware' and won't properly startup without going into 'connect to your pc...download new firmware' mode. After googling around for a bit, it seems that I may have a bricked HD. *shame*

*Legion* wrote:

So you're downloading podcasts via iTunes, and pointing the Zune software at the folder that iTunes stores the podcasts?

I'm impressed that that works at all, problematic or no.

Back when I had a Zune 30, in the early days of Zune on the old Zune software, this was the only way to get podcasts. iTunes would download, the Zune software would sync.

*Legion* wrote:

So you're downloading podcasts via iTunes, and pointing the Zune software at the folder that iTunes stores the podcasts?

I'm impressed that that works at all, problematic or no.

No. (But it did used to work, like nsmike said. It *should* just be MP3s with the podcast "genre" tag.)

No, here's what I was doing(because ITMS has more stuff than ZMP).
Search/browse ITMS.
Find podcast I want.
Download episode/subscribe.
That ep. will sync to Zune because Zune will automatically monitor iTunes folders. It's part of setup.
Now, find/extract RSS feed url OR if single ep download has enough metadata, Zune will "find" the feed url for you. Hit subscribe.
From now on, that feed will have issues with double-syncing some episodes. Eventually All of them.
Doesn't matter if you unsub and delete all traces of that podcast in iTunes. That podcast series is hosed.

And once your Zune is having issues, it seems to require a format to fix. Dammit.