"Quantum of Solace" (James Bond) trailer online

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

- A marshmallow pushover of a henchman

Wait, there was a henchman?!

I really, really disliked the cutting actions scenes with other stuff - the horse race at the beginning and the opera. It felt like the director wanted to make some artsy cinematic vision but all it did was make things very confusing. It actually made me think that Craig couldn't do extended action scenes so they needed to chop the heck out of it so people wouldn't notice.

Nothing else in the film changed that thinking.

ColdForged wrote:
Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

- A marshmallow pushover of a henchman

Wait, there was a henchman?!

The twit Fields tripped on the stairs. He wore a neck brace in the scenes after that.

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

Could not disagree more with everything on Gorilla's list.

The only complaint I can kind of honor is number 5, because the story is not told in a very cohesive manner. It's all very random and feels almost out of order somehow.

The rest of it is rubbish. Especially the part about Olga Kurylenko being ugly :P

I'd like to know exactly how "the rest is rubbish". These things are a the staples of James Bond movie-making canon. And you can only hack so much at the canon before the franchise gets watered down to just another spy movie kind of thing.

So what we got instead?

- A dismissable villain with an evil, but hardly world-threatening agenda
- A marshmallow pushover of a henchman
- A total of 1 minute of an Aston-Martin being abused
- Two scenes with a Sony Ericsson product placement
- A desert being the most exotic locale shown
- A fistfight at a burning hotel filling the place of a requsite apocalyptic showdown

Verdict: weaksauce.

And I stand by my assertion that Olga Kurylenko is completely unremarkable, if not unpleasant. You should really try and see past this usual syndrome of thinking that each and every B-list female is "hot" if she land a movie role. Besides, her casting (as well as casting of pretty much all other characters, especially the villain and his pushover henchman) is really a perplexing choice on the part of the director. Picking a Ukrainian to play a South American. I am sure there could be a more convincing choice made than that.

Olga Kurylenko is only unattractive in the magic fantasy land men occupy when they post about women on the internet. Also, she's supposed to be half Russian in the movie.

The franchise has steered off into self-parody so often that I'm more than happy to see them back off on the girls, gadgets, and outlandish villains. I'm perfectly fine with a more grounded, human Bond franchise. Based on Quantum of Solace I'm not entirely sure the people in charge know what the hell to do with it though. I'll give them the benefit of the boubt for another one, but that one really has to turn out better.

jowner wrote:

edit: Kinda surprised actually no one else has tried to just straight up steal the genre with a clone. Besides Jack Bauer we really don't have enough special agent ass kicking entertainment. Closest thing we got is what Triple X?

The Bourne movies clearly put a bug up the Bond franchise's ass. He even punks Quantum over the phone* in this one!

*Ok, so it's not actually a phone. Close enough though.

Mex wrote:
Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

And I stand by my assertion that Olga Kurylenko is completely unremarkable, if not unpleasant. You should really try and see past this usual syndrome of thinking that each and every B-list female is "hot" if she land a movie role.

I haven't seen the movie but I found some pics of her and this girl is 100% grade A certifiable HOT

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9...

(maybe nsfw)

The thing about Bond girls is that they aren't supposed to be just pretty--there's generally a sophistication about them as well. Can't say I've seen the movie yet (or that I plan to until it's a rental, based on what I've heard), but Olga looks to be in the class of Unlikely Bond Girls, with Denise Richards + breast implants (playing a Nuclear Physicist, no less) as the poster child for this category.

jowner wrote:
Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

I didn't like it at all.

1. No Q, no exotic technology, no tricky gadgets
2. No larger-than-life villan
3. No freaky villan's right-hand/henchman to be fought in a final standoff scene
4. The girl is ugly
5. Several utterly nonsensical scenes
6. Daniel Craig a complete goon

Edit:

7. The opening song sucked, as rightfully pointed out by RB.

Pretty much agree with this all besides 4 and 6. I think Craig has some more range but they seem happy to just play him as a complete goon.

On the ride home with my friend we were both kinda confused how anti climatic the whole thing was. Wait what they are cornering the what market in which country? I don't care show me more girls and gadgets. Didn't even realize the lack of cool gadgets until the next day when I reflected that yes that was supposed to be a Bond film and there really was lacking amount of cool stuff and hot chicks.

so yea add 8. Lack of girls.

Saw it last night and I'm going to have to just QFT here, especially #1. (Thanks for doing all the heavy lifting, guys.) Also, while I disagree with #4, I am of the opinion that she was not "Bond-girl hot" in this movie, either.

I wonder what Ian Flemming would have to say about all of this.

This was a great Bond movie. I think they've successfully gotten down to the -core- of Bond, sluffing off most of the affectations and distractions to get at interesting storytelling. You can tell they're setting up a proper 'supervillain' in Quantum too. Less comically diabolical than SPECTRE. More practically seeking dominance over lesser and influence over greater world powers.

Anyone notice the credits? Ms. Fields' first name is Strawberry. Thats pure Bond

Anyone notice the credits? Ms. Fields' first name is Strawberry. Thats pure Bond

Yeah that got an audible groan at the theater.

Zen Mutty wrote:

I wonder what Ian Flemming would have to say about all of this.

I'd hope he'd be happy, since these last two movies have been far closer to his books than any other bond movies they ever made before.

The opening music was fine as a song, but it didn't make a good Bond opener. Also, speaking of Bond opener music, I rather like this version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMoJR...

Thin_J wrote:
Zen Mutty wrote:

I wonder what Ian Flemming would have to say about all of this.

I'd hope he'd be happy, since these last two movies have been far closer to his books than any other bond movies they ever made before.

Agreed